Climate Change thread: tl; dr - We are so screwed

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SlimGoodbody: Oct 20, 2003

DesperateDan posted:

The sound, smell and general "feel" of car engines is going to be something I really miss when it's gone, even though all the evidence can tell me its helping to kill the environment

A smart company will make sure to find a way to include those elements to some extent in skeuomorphic design considerations until they can be phased out gracefully.

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SlimGoodbody: Oct 20, 2003

computer parts posted:

Electric cars already include artificial noise because they were inadvertently sneaking up on people.

I hadn't even thought of that. Are there electric motorcycles? I hope they make noise, cause otherwise they'd be even more of a deathtrap.

# ¿ Oct 18, 2015 03:22

SlimGoodbody: Oct 20, 2003

Here's an interesting perspective on the umbrella under which our ills fall. Think of "use value" as "utility" and "exchange value" as "perceived value" when Thanaticism gets defined.

McKenzie Wark posted:

Bill McKibben has suggested that climate scientists should go on strike. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change released its 2013 report recently. It basically says what the last one said, with a bit more evidence, more detail, and worse projections. And still nothing much seems to be happening to stop Thanaticism. Why issue another report? It is not the science, it�s the political science that�s failed. Or maybe the political economy.

In the same week, BP quietly signaled their intention to fully exploit the carbon deposits to which it owns the rights. A large part of the value of the company, after all, is the value of those rights. To not dig or suck or frack carbon out of the ground for fuel would be suicide for the company, and yet to turn it all into fuel and have that fuel burned, releasing the carbon into the air, puts the climate into a truly dangerous zone.

But that can�t stand in the way of the production of exchange value. Exchange value has to unreel its own inner logic to the end: to mass extinction. The tail that is capital is wagging the dog that is earth.

Perhaps its no accident that the privatization of space appears on the horizon as an investment opportunity at just this moment when earth is going to the dogs. The ruling class must know it is presiding over the depletion of the earth. So they are dreaming of space-hotels. They want to not be touched by this, but to still have excellent views.

It makes perfect sense that in these times agencies like the NSA are basically spying on everybody. The ruling class must know that they are the enemies now of our entire species. They are traitors to our species being. So not surprisingly they are panicky and paranoid. They imagine we�re all out to get them.

# ¿ Oct 18, 2015 23:17

SlimGoodbody: Oct 20, 2003

Trabisnikof posted:

It seems from the article linked, those are changes to the way certain forests are modeled and seems unlikely to change, say the scope of IPCC reports or other conclusions with uncertainties baked in.

But this process of refinement is part of what makes science seem *wrong* to many conservatives.

Whoa whoa, you're telling me you can't just come to a conclusion once and be right about it forever? That doesn't seem right

# ¿ Oct 20, 2015 02:12

SlimGoodbody: Oct 20, 2003

Radbot posted:

Personally I'd rather die on Earth than hang out with some rich fucks on a spacecraft for all eternity, cause the issue isn't "lol gently caress this place" it's "lol gently caress humanity".

But if you go on the spacecraft, you can sabotage it and have your gleefully cackling face beaming down from the massive viewscreens as the beeping timer ticks away the seconds until the innards of the ship are exposed to hard vacuum.

# ¿ Oct 20, 2015 20:53

SlimGoodbody: Oct 20, 2003

If we ever reach the point of "natural" control in which we can essentially materialize things from other things or from nothing (replicators and/or nano-reconstructive technologies), the "but what if we run out???" fear is utterly moot. And it is entirely possible, and possibly likely, that we will get that far, so long as we don't die before then.

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SlimGoodbody: Oct 20, 2003

Silver Nitrate posted:

How long until everyone dies?

Two more climate change threads

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