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Lurdiak posted:I know he has some fans but I've honestly never read an Azzarello story I thought was particularly good. 100 Bullets, but in the way that every character is a horrible monster.
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Probably gonna give up on DC's animated movies. I really hated Justice League vs Teen Titans, the least of which for making a story that should be about Raven (my personal favorite superhero), into Damian learning the same lesson he learned in the last three movies. This whole thing with Killing Joke adding in the sex scene for controversy really doesn't give me much faith in the next batch of movies, and with the exception of Gods and Monsters, I haven't enjoyed any of the recent movies since Flashpoint Paradox.
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Marvel revamping Avengers Assemble with Secret Wars with a new lineup: The Vision, Captain Marvel, Ms Marvel, Black Panther, Wasp, Ant-Man and the Jane Foster version of Thor http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/sdcc-marvel-announces-animated-secret-wars-skottie-young-style-rocket-groot This can't possibly be worse than the current show and the roster looks good. No cap, falcon, or iron man though?
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Apparently Azzarello flipped out at someone at Comic-Con for calling him out on the addition being silly and called a fan a pussy.
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Jul 23, 2016 23:12
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i know that feel batgirl
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Timeless Appeal posted:Apparently Azzarello flipped out at someone at Comic-Con for calling him out on the addition being silly and called a fan a pussy. This guy sucks.
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Jul 23, 2016 23:26
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Where in a bunch of old dudes try to justify their making a young woman sleep with her mentor by saying she's in control in a story where she is shot, paralyzed and sexually assaulted by her mentor's arch-nemesis just to prove a point.
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Jul 24, 2016 00:02
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Portrait of a woman in control.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Apparently Azzarello flipped out at someone at Comic-Con for calling him out on the addition being silly and called a fan a pussy. Bruce Timm posted:"There's clearly an unstated attraction between the two of the characters from the very beginning and I think it's there in the comics. If you go back and look at the Adam West show, it's there in the Adam West show," said Timm. "It's subtle, but to me it's always been there." In other words, Steve/Bucky should've also be canon apparently.
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:In other words, Steve/Bucky should've also be canon apparently. Or Batman and Robin.
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Jul 24, 2016 00:32
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SonicRulez posted:
In the N52, Bruce returns to Gotham after five years abroad culminating in Zero Year (sometime during which - probably early on - Dick Grayson's parents die). At his absolute youngest age he would be 13 or so, but in the N52 he's very clearly sixteen-ish (which, after the five year timeskip up to current time after Zero Year, would again put him at about the same age as Barbara). So yes, a 25 to 26-year-old Bruce Wayne adopts a sixteen-to-seventeen-year-old Dick Grayson, and that's silly and insane, but that's roughly the new canon timeline.
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Jul 24, 2016 00:34
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Rebirth unfucked the N52 timeline by stating there are ten missing years and filling them in, didn't it?
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:In other words, Steve/Bucky should've also be canon apparently. This sounds like outright shipping goggles to me., which I'm admittedly guilty of doing as well. "These two had a conversation together, BRUCE X BARBARA MOMENT!!!"
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Jul 24, 2016 00:36
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Roth posted:This sounds like outright shipping goggles to me., which I'm admittedly guilty of doing as well. They're being sarcastic so yeah it would probably sound like that
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Jul 24, 2016 00:41
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There were ten "stolen" years, which isn't the same as "missing" years. The timeline for Batman, specifically, and this is pretty much the only hard-and-fast rule we have, is that he was 20 when he abruptly left Gotham to get training, came back at 25 when everyone presumed him dead, Zero Year happened, and then all of Batman's nearly eighty year history (outside of Year One since that directly contradicts Zero Year, and various stories that directly invalidate new canon) happened in the five year timeframe between Zero Year and when the N52 begins. So that means he, yes, had three Robins in five years (one of whom was brutally murdered), met, was seduced by, and had sex with Talia al Ghul who them spermjacked or whatever the gently caress she did to grow Damian in jar, which then the ENTIRETY OF MORRISON'S RUN HAPPENED WITHIN that timeframe, both Kathy and Kate Kane were Batwoman at some point in time, and Barbara Gordon became Batgirl, fell in love with Dick, they had the most will-they-won't-they relationship ever, TKJ happened, she was Oracle for two years, then went away (on Christmas, even) to some illegal not medically approved facility in Africa to get cybernetic and neural enhacements placed within her to gain her mobility back, so that at the very beginning of the N52 she's just starting to put the cowl back on. Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown never existed.
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TheKingofSprings posted:They're being sarcastic so yeah it would probably sound like that I guess that just didn't come out through text.
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Toxxupation posted:There were ten "stolen" years, which isn't the same as "missing" years. The timeline for Batman, specifically, and this is pretty much the only hard-and-fast rule we have, is that he was 20 when he abruptly left Gotham to get training, came back at 25 when everyone presumed him dead, Zero Year happened, and then all of Batman's nearly eighty year history (outside of Year One since that directly contradicts Zero Year, and various stories that directly invalidate new canon) happened in the five year timeframe between Zero Year and when the N52 begins. So that means he, yes, had three Robins in five years (one of whom was brutally murdered), met, was seduced by, and had sex with Talia al Ghul who them spermjacked or whatever the gently caress she did to grow Damian in jar, which then the ENTIRETY OF MORRISON'S RUN HAPPENED WITHIN that timeframe, both Kathy and Kate Kane were Batwoman at some point in time, and Barbara Gordon became Batgirl, fell in love with Dick, they had the most will-they-won't-they relationship ever, TKJ happened, she was Oracle for two years, then went away (on Christmas, even) to some illegal not medically approved facility in Africa to get cybernetic and neural enhacements placed within her to gain her mobility back, so that at the very beginning of the N52 she's just starting to put the cowl back on. Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown never existed. Comics, ladies and gentlemen.
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Karnith posted:The Laffco Toy Factory at bottom-right is from the animated series, and second from the left on the top row is from an ad the Joker does in Batman '89 (minus approximately 100% Jack Nicholson). And second from the right is the Ledger Joker from TDK.
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Roth posted:I guess that just didn't come out through text. They aren't being sarcastic Timm has been a shipper of them since one of the Batman animated movies, I don't remember which.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Apparently Azzarello flipped out at someone at Comic-Con for calling him out on the addition being silly and called a fan a pussy. Awesome, so I won't be giving that movie single cent or even a view on Youtube once it gets pirated. gently caress right off Azzarello, gently caress right off Bruce Timm, and gently caress right off DC Animated movies. Into the bin with all of you. Toxxupation posted:In the N52, Bruce returns to Gotham after five years abroad culminating in Zero Year (sometime during which - probably early on - Dick Grayson's parents die). At his absolute youngest age he would be 13 or so, but in the N52 he's very clearly sixteen-ish (which, after the five year timeskip up to current time after Zero Year, would again put him at about the same age as Barbara). So yes, a 25 to 26-year-old Bruce Wayne adopts a sixteen-to-seventeen-year-old Dick Grayson, and that's silly and insane, but that's roughly the new canon timeline. This is so stupid that I almost got mad at you just for explaining it to me. Dick got adopted at 17? What's the point in that?!
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In other news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiJwpT9OvRQ Lego Batman Movie trailer.
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Roth posted:In other news Ah... Will Arnett... takes the pain away.
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Toxxupation posted:There were ten "stolen" years, which isn't the same as "missing" years. The timeline for Batman, specifically, and this is pretty much the only hard-and-fast rule we have, is that he was 20 when he abruptly left Gotham to get training, came back at 25 when everyone presumed him dead, Zero Year happened, and then all of Batman's nearly eighty year history (outside of Year One since that directly contradicts Zero Year, and various stories that directly invalidate new canon) happened in the five year timeframe between Zero Year and when the N52 begins. So that means he, yes, had three Robins in five years (one of whom was brutally murdered), met, was seduced by, and had sex with Talia al Ghul who them spermjacked or whatever the gently caress she did to grow Damian in jar, which then the ENTIRETY OF MORRISON'S RUN HAPPENED WITHIN that timeframe, both Kathy and Kate Kane were Batwoman at some point in time, and Barbara Gordon became Batgirl, fell in love with Dick, they had the most will-they-won't-they relationship ever, TKJ happened, she was Oracle for two years, then went away (on Christmas, even) to some illegal not medically approved facility in Africa to get cybernetic and neural enhacements placed within her to gain her mobility back, so that at the very beginning of the N52 she's just starting to put the cowl back on. Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown never existed. 
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Roth posted:In other news Now that's a better way to dwell into Batman's issues
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quote:for me it's how much of an rear end in a top hat move it is to Batman's surrogate son that's the issue, not the age difference. "Hey I don't mind the creepy age difference, the power imbalance of a mentor loving someone in his care, or the way the actions instantly become something Batman rejects in the film... but why Bats gotta do his Batbro dirty like that"? Thank god for Lego Batman. DC Animated features have been on quite the downturn for a while now. It's like they stopped caring after the Superman film where Spike the Vampire had a BDSM superbot to make him feel alive again.
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FilthyImp posted:DC Animated features have been on quite the downturn for a while now. It's like they stopped caring after the Superman film where Spike the Vampire had a BDSM superbot to make him feel alive again. Honestly, after ten years, it's been mostly a waste with some good stuff here and there. And even the good stuff is mostly marred by smoothing over the art style. The fact that The Dark Knight Returns looks like the rest of their catalogue and not a higher budget version of that TNBA episode is a crime.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzJJEdoj8no This animation looks pretty cool.
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Are you all in high school or something? She's like 25 and he's 10-15 years older than that. And he's rich as hell. That's completely normal. Everything else is hosed up, but the age difference is nothing.
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Aphrodite posted:Are you all in high school or something? She's like 25 and he's 10-15 years older than that. And he's rich as hell. That's completely normal. Because no-one would judge a 40+ year-old woman loving a man half her age, right?
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You appear to have taken a time machine from the 90s. I have something I have to tell you about your parents and a baby you're going to meet soon, Nathan.
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Just finished watching The Killing Joke and, while it's not absolutely god-awful (though the sex scene is awkward as gently caress...Barbara begging for Batman to talk to her two nights after is worse)...it's still watchable but not something I'd see in a theater. Barbara goes on to her gay co-worker about how her "yoga instructor" is someone she's "seeing" but not having sex with. During an argument between Batgirl and Batman, Batgirl knocks Batman over and just kisses him and he's totally okay with it...then you have the sex scene from that GIF. Not long after that, you get Babs saying to her co-worker that she and her instructor had sex and he won't talk to her. So then you get the video scene after that one where she's just trying to get him to talk to her after having sex two nights prior. She fucks up and almost kills a guy so she gives up being Batgirl. Then she gets shot by Joker, pictures are taken like in the comics. The rest of the movie is pretty spot on with the comic (I haven't read the comic in about a year, mind you) I would not go see it in theaters. It's awkward, it makes Babs look needy as gently caress for her "instructor", it doesn't empower her in any way. She's just "in the way" a lot. This is not written to put her in a positive light...is that really what the writer said? Because no, it's not true.
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Does it still end with Bats and Joker sharing a laff? Because that's a million times worse with the new narrative added in.
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ThermoPhysical posted:Just finished watching The Killing Joke and, while it's not absolutely god-awful (though the sex scene is awkward as gently caress...Barbara begging for Batman to talk to her two nights after is worse)...it's still watchable but not something I'd see in a theater. It really genuinely sounds like they wanted to give Barbara more of a presence but couldn't think of one that wasn't "well she wants to bang Bruce!"
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ImpAtom posted:It really genuinely sounds like they wanted to give Barbara more of a presence but couldn't think of one that wasn't "well she wants to bang Bruce!" "Quick, what are some things women do?"
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ThermoPhysical posted:Just finished watching The Killing Joke and, while it's not absolutely god-awful (though the sex scene is awkward as gently caress...Barbara begging for Batman to talk to her two nights after is worse)...it's still watchable but not something I'd see in a theater. Though even then if it was that if it keeps going with the plot as written then that dumb subplot doesn't even get an ending or any payoff at all. So what were they thinking?
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Jack Gladney posted:"Quick, what are some things women do?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSUc7fZfqRg&t=33s It's a documentary.
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So agency is having Barbra be such an emotion controlled wreck after Batman takes her to the bonezone and ignores her she fucks up crimefighting so bad that she retires? Was this pitched as a satire or loving something?
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CharlestheHammer posted:Though even then if it was that if it keeps going with the plot as written then that dumb subplot doesn't even get an ending or any payoff at all. So what were they thinking? They were thinking about how much they like to jerk off to cartoons, because outside of that, there is literally no reason to do what they did.
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X-O posted:It's like you think the situation can't get worse, but then DC takes that as a challenge. Keep on upping that ante.
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