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Steve2911 posted:In TBOFA? I've not seen it since the cinema release but isn't the elf army literally just the same two or three dudes copied and posted 1000 times? It looked loving awful. I wasn't paying enough attention to tell if it was literally the same guy, but I was definitely getting vibes of the one copy-pasted Oompa-Loompa guy from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Except that guy was kind of funny, since they just totally ran with it and had all the Oompa-Loompas inexplicably completely identical with no reason given, including the female secretary (aka the same guy again in a dress).
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So far I haven't seen anything that addresses the very ending. Peter Jackson said that The Hobbit would go seamlessly into the LOTR trilogy, but all I remember connecting the two was Gandalf knocking at the door. Bilbo is yelling for Frodo, wondering where he is, even tho he told Bilbo he was going to wait for Gandalf. I was expecting a smoother transition than that, but I guess Jackson just gave up.
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Oct 17, 2015 11:29
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Steve2911 posted:In TBOFA? I've not seen it since the cinema release but isn't the elf army literally just the same two or three dudes copied and posted 1000 times? It looked loving awful. Actually, yeah. I had a moment of hope when Thranduil's personal guards looked really different from the 2nd age elves and Lothlorien elves in LOTR, but then they showed up looking less interesting than the guys from earlier. The Orcs and trolls look loving great though, as do the Dwarves.
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Gimmedaroot posted:So far I haven't seen anything that addresses the very ending. Peter Jackson said that The Hobbit would go seamlessly into the LOTR trilogy, but all I remember connecting the two was Gandalf knocking at the door. Bilbo is yelling for Frodo, wondering where he is, even tho he told Bilbo he was going to wait for Gandalf. I was expecting a smoother transition than that, but I guess Jackson just gave up. Thranduil: "Legolas, go find the toddler that they call Strider..."
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SHISHKABOB posted:Thranduil: "Legolas, go find the toddler that they call Strider..." Aragorn is 87 in LOTR. Got that Numenorean longevity.
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Oct 17, 2015 22:29
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The horribly disjointed connection between the two trilogies is one of the best parts. You cut directly from a doddering old man half-remembering a story he wasn't there for to thousands of years ago or howevermuch. The movie and Bilbo's ultimate fate are absorbed by the LOTR trilogy, subordinated directly into its prologue. You also hear the narrator and go like 'wait, who is this? They're just telling me what happened directly now? Why should I trust them?'
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Hbomberguy posted:The horribly disjointed connection between the two trilogies is one of the best parts. You cut directly from a doddering old man half-remembering a story he wasn't there for to thousands of years ago or howevermuch. The movie and Bilbo's ultimate fate are absorbed by the LOTR trilogy, subordinated directly into its prologue. This post makes my eye balls melt.
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Oct 18, 2015 10:26
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How unfortunate for you.
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There was a sale on the PS4 version of LEGO The Hobbitt and while it was good enjoyable fun, I was bummed out to find that the game ends after the events of the 2nd movie. Apparently upon release they announced that they would later have DLC added for TBoFA but that ended up being straight up cancelled a couple of months ago.
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el oso posted:There was a sale on the PS4 version of LEGO The Hobbitt and while it was good enjoyable fun, I was bummed out to find that the game ends after the events of the 2nd movie. Apparently upon release they announced that they would later have DLC added for TBoFA but that ended up being straight up cancelled a couple of months ago. Yeah it's kinda sad because it actually has the best mechanics of any Lego game I've played.
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Oct 22, 2015 12:49
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Bilbo's outfit in the last movie was so bad. Why would they make him wear this for the whole movie? [img]http://www.nbr.co.nz/sites/default/files/styles/article_full_300w/public/story_imgs/Hobbit-3_0_0.jpg?itok=oTbOW64t][/img]
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el oso posted:Bilbo's outfit in the last movie was so bad. Why would they make him wear this for the whole movie? While it doesn't look precisely good, it does fit the theme of a hobbit dragged away from his home and all the things he knows. Its the pocket hankerchief all over again, but now it's his entire outfit.
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Oct 25, 2015 11:31
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It's not the first movie Freeman spent entirely in his bathrobe.
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The Extended edition sure is...something. It embraces those goofy bits we saw a bit of in the main cut and runs with them to their logical conclusion, resulting in an r-rated, mega budget battle that's like Braveheart meets Asterix and Obelix. I know someone here said they don't know who that is, but that's on them. It pushes so far into goofyville it comes back out the side into funland for a lot of its length.
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jivjov posted:While it doesn't look precisely good, it does fit the theme of a hobbit dragged away from his home and all the things he knows. Its the pocket hankerchief all over again, but now it's his entire outfit. Yeah - Bilbo has reached the Dwarves' home, which was originally sold to him as being analogous to his Hobbit hole, so he's changed into comfortable homeware. But Erebor is in fact nothing at all like a Hobbit hole, so he looks ludicrously out of place, especially after Thorin adds some actually-location-appropriate armour to the whole ensemble.
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I'm looking to buy/pre-order an extended edition trilogy set on Blu-Ray with all the appendices. On Amazon, Extended Edition Trilogy finds me a 3 disc Blu-Ray set, a 15 disc DVD set, and a 13 disc "multi-format" set. The only one of those that mentions appendices 7-12 is the DVD set. I want to assume that the "3-disc" part of the blu-Ray set is an error, because aren't all the extended editions 2 discs anyway? So I think that's the one I should order; but does anyone know for sure? (Bonus points, I'd really like it to match the form factor/look of the LotR box set.)  EDIT:  jivjov fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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Oct 26, 2015 14:11
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As far as I know the extended version of the last hobbit movie only just came out so they'll probably wait for a collection (either summer or next fall).
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computer parts posted:As far as I know the extended version of the last hobbit movie only just came out so they'll probably wait for a collection (either summer or next fall). Well, there are trilogy sets up for preorder, to be released next month, right now! I just need to find out if they have all the bonus feature stuff.
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Apparently the EE has been out since Oct. 20th on digital DL but the bluray won't be out till Nov. 17th. I'm still waiting for the bluray because I'm a sperg who needs to complete the set even though I didn't much like the last movie. But has anyone seen the EE? Has it improved on things?
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Gianthogweed posted:Apparently the EE has been out since Oct. 20th on digital DL but the bluray won't be out till Nov. 17th. I'm still waiting for the bluray because I'm a sperg who needs to complete the set even though I didn't much like the last movie. But has anyone seen the EE? Has it improved on things? Yeah. Most of it doesn't add a lot, but it does take the action scenes far enough into crazy territory that it actually works. Instead of being an odd mix of "gritty" and "cartoon"
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I watched it the other day just to get it over with. Only saw the theatrical once so I'm not sure what all was new. It didn't win me over or anything, but I'd say it's an improvement. Basically you can't go wrong with More Stuff Happening in Middle-earth, because that's all this trilogy is in the first place. I'd say the EE connects the dots a little better, but the tone continues to switch between cartoon action/comedy and serious epic adventure. There's an entire new chase with a Dwarf chariot* in the style of the barrel scene, but then there's also a funeral montage that acts like these characters and their relationships carried any weight. There's a nice little scene between Bilbo and Bofur, just like the one they had in the first one. CG Billy Connolly-Dwarf says "buggers" a couple more times. *If you're confused about Dwalin and Kili's exchange regarding the troll, because I had to look up what the hell they were saying, it's "jambags". It doesn't have any jambags. Yeah.
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Big surprise. quote:Peter Jackson has revealed he began filming his blockbuster Hobbit trilogy without proper preparation, in many cases shooting scenes without storyboards and completed scripts in a process he described as “making it up as I went along”. http://www.theguardian.com/film/201...-film_b-gdnfilm
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That being the case I'm impressed it turned out watchable at all.
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I respect for him being man enough to admit this along with the mediocrity of the films.
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I'm happy the Hobbit trilogy exists way more for the fact that it was a production, than I do about the end results. I'm absolutely thrilled by the cumulative 30 hours of all-access we get to Jackson, Stone Street Studios, Weta, and all the actors and other crew, across the three bluray sets. It's loving heaven for people who are really nerdy about film production. The fact that I now own those blu-rays and can delve into all that stuff makes the three rather silly movies' existence worth it. There are so many scenes that are really dumb on the screen, like everything in Laketown (actually, just everything in the third film), but I don't care how ridiculous it is, because watching hours of behind the scenes on the Laketown set is pure joy. Hedrigall fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Nov 20, 2015 |
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So I finally saw the There and Back Again edit of the Hobbit films and I thought it was pretty good. It's still pretty goofy, but it feels like fun goofy instead of endless boring chase sequence goofy. Also, it compresses the entire third movie into the last 20-30 mins, which makes all the CGI dwarves and elves way more bearable.
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Nov 20, 2015 05:38
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So sort of the Bored of the Rings approach.
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Roadie posted:So I finally saw the There and Back Again edit of the Hobbit films and I thought it was pretty good. It's still pretty goofy, but it feels like fun goofy instead of endless boring chase sequence goofy. There's dozens of these fan edits, which one is the best/most professionally done?
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Nov 20, 2015 07:32
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On the bright side, the Hobbit films still don't hold a candle to the cringe-inducing god-awfulness of what became known as the Star Wars prequels. TL;DR: Peter Jackson is still no George Lucas.
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Hedrigall posted:There's dozens of these fan edits, which one is the best/most professionally done? The David Killstein edit is the one I saw. It tries to keep it kind of cartoony and fun while cutting out the endless chase sequences, romance stuff, pretty much all of the LotR foreshadowing, etc, as well as lot of the meaningless fighting. Basically, the "kid's movie" version. I have no idea about the quality any others.
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Immortan posted:On the bright side, the Hobbit films still don't hold a candle to the cringe-inducing god-awfulness of what became known as the Star Wars prequels. Agreed. They share similar issues, but dammit, Jackson was trying.
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 Really guys? Did you have to just bring in the stupid prequel hate into another thread.
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Immortan posted:On the bright side, the Hobbit films still don't hold a candle to the cringe-inducing god-awfulness of what became known as the Star Wars prequels. Actually I think whatever arguments are made against the prequels can just as easily be made against The Hobbit. At least I remember parts of the prequels and I've not watched any of them since SITH came out. Of course Jackson won't get the same ire, but he should do. Yes it sucks he clearly didn't get to make the movies he wanted to, but those movies are still bad regardless of his intentions.
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DrVenkman posted:Actually I think whatever arguments are made against the prequels can just as easily be made against The Hobbit. So, not very many legitimate ones.
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MonsieurChoc posted:
They know they can't get away with saying something as obviously dumb as "Lucas wasn't trying" and get away with it in the actual Star Wars thread.
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Finally, the proof we need that Jackson thinks the movies are bad! In a behind the scenes video for the DVD he talks about delaying shooting to make sure he was properly prepared!
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Hbomberguy posted:Finally, the proof we need that Jackson thinks the movies are bad! In a behind the scenes video for the DVD he talks about delaying shooting to make sure he was properly prepared! He explicitly didn't do that. The first two came out pretty alright though, it's just the third I think really misses the mark. “Because Guillermo Del Toro had to leave and I jumped in and took over, we didn’t wind the clock back a year and a half and give me a year and a half prep to design the movie, which was different to what he was doing,” reveals Jackson. “It was impossible, and as a result of it being impossible I just started shooting the movie with most of it not prepped at all. I had thought Del Toro just did art design, like that one concept art for Smaug. I didn't know he was originally directing the whole thing.
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Maybe you didn't watch the video the quotes are from? Right after saying that, he talks about putting the movie on hold until he was better prepared. You've taken a person saying "things didn't feel right, so I delayed the movie and took my time deciding what I wanted to do and make the film the way I thought was right", and appear to have misread it as "things didn't feel right and so I did a bad job and did nothing to stop this". The guy made Dead-Alive. Give him some credit.
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And in the end, the movie still sucked!
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He only put the brakes on for the third movie. The other two were just winging it with leftover DelToro props and Gandalf tears. Does explain why the battle had all the weird Jackson flavor in it compared to the rest.
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