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quote:I give this man props for being in control of one of the biggest shows in the world, yet being connected to his fans enough to address them (and this isn’t the first time). Big egos in Hollywood are as common as rug burns on assistants’ knees and I don’t think many of them in control of a show this big would take the time to talk to the fans, but Andy does. He sees how passionate people are, how much we love this show and that we all just want it to be as good as possible. No one is rooting for its failure, and when the show is good we would follow Wilman and the trio off a cliff with cult-like devotion. The fact that he admitted he didn’t love the special shows how small his ego is, and how much he cares. He’s a fan like us. We’ll be here for the next one Andy, don’t worry. Cannot agree more with the person who posted this on that link. Also, did they spend all of their money making the series or something? I mean, it's Top Gear..
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Foehammer007 posted:Also, did they spend all of their money making the series or something? I mean, it's Top Gear.. Tonight on Top Gear, we've been given 50p each to buy non-German sports car...
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Thanks Andy Wilman for your well written thoughts I understand your budget is small I hope it gets bigger in the future also regarding the garden scene is to be but as much as they cannot so we instead had to use trains which was for the boys' safety and the government needed to see the script those lunches we real but it was all for fun well I should be off I have some more correspondence to write it should be fun so take care trains safety car doors being opened into other cars sincerely sigtrap .
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sigtrap posted:Thanks Andy Wilman for your well written thoughts I understand your budget is small I hope it gets bigger in the future also regarding the garden scene is to be but as much as they cannot so we instead had to use trains which was for the boys' safety and the government needed to see the script those lunches we real but it was all for fun well I should be off I have some more correspondence to write it should be fun so take care trains safety car doors being opened into other cars sincerely sigtrap I dont remember seeing you at a family lunch......?
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Apparently Andy Wilman responded: Fair play to him for having the balls to come out and address the complaints. Thanks Andy, just don't let it happen again. P.S. use commas and work on your grammar when addressing the public.
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You Am I posted:I went to the Live show in Australia. It was a mixture of cool stunts and advertising from Shell. I naturally tune out advertising, but with the price I paid for my ticket, I hope they refrain from it this time.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Apparently Andy Wilman responded: christ is that guy illiterate?
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:christ is that guy illiterate? I was thinking the same thing. I figured it had to be someone impersonating him. Either that or it's hard for him to post on the internet through a veil of tears.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:christ is that guy illiterate? Probably not: http://transmission.blogs.topgear.com/2011/12/28/top-gear-in-india-post-show-discussion posted:EDITOR’S MESSAGE: Just to be clear, the comment posted below in the discussion from an account called “Andy Wilman” was a fake and has been deleted. The comment was not from Andy.
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Ah, drat. I was tricked! Sorry, guys. Maybe next year they'll come to Canada and point out our total lack of a car industry. It could end up in Hammond driving a Bricklin SV-1. Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Jan 6, 2012 |
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drat fake! Although this should be a lesson to people in Andy's position. If you gently caress up and admit your mistakes, the fans will be a poo poo load more forgiving than just ignoring them.
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KozmoNaut posted:gently caress the special, I just bought my ticket to the greatest show on Earth I went to this in London in November, it was a bit disappointing really. You've got about an hour or so of track action (the Group B rally cars were awesome), then had to sit about for 5 hours where the only thing you could do was go to the exhibition stall and browse lots of automotive companies selling stuff, then the arena show which lasts about an hour which was entertaining enough. Their motorised stage was quite cool though: 
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Slimbo posted:I went to this in London in November, it was a bit disappointing really. You've got about an hour or so of track action (the Group B rally cars were awesome), then had to sit about for 5 hours where the only thing you could do was go to the exhibition stall and browse lots of automotive companies selling stuff, then the arena show which lasts about an hour which was entertaining enough. They're doing 2-3 shows spaced 3 hours apart, per day. So hopefully, they've streamlined everything a bit.
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So Clarkson did not buy his 17 year old daughter a Volvo 940 estate. http://www.topgear.com/uk/jeremy-clarkson/jeremy-clarkson-ford-fiesta-2012-01-06 Man I don't know if I can take Top Gear's consumer advice seriously anymore...
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I don't think he wants to know what kind of point-to-point speeds you can get out of a 1.2 Fiesta with a certain amount of determination and a willingness to utterly cook the brakes.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Ah, drat. I was tricked! Sorry, guys. I was thinking about this not so long ago while watching that "Canada's worst driver" TV show. They were using a Dodge Challenger with a maple leaf motif on one of the sections, and it occurred to me that it is pretty much the most Canadian car. We have a very healthy car industry here, it's just that there's never been a Canadian brand. I have no idea what Canada's car industry would look like if it developed like Australia's, but I'm thinking rustproofing would be a hell of a lot better.
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Xeno posted:Can see it now, fastest time around the Monaco GP circuit with normal traffic. Race vs a boat along the coast road. Clarkson spunks his car money in the Casino. Yeah, would really not advise that, the police in MC aren't particularly renown for their sense of humour. Actually, if it meant Clarkson ended up doing time, this could be the best Top Gear special ever! drgitlin fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Jan 8, 2012 |
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About the fake Andy Wilman -- I've read some notes from him in the past, I think regarding their ever-shrinking budget. And he did have trouble with run-on sentences. Though not as bad as that guy.
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KozmoNaut posted:They're doing 2-3 shows spaced 3 hours apart, per day. So hopefully, they've streamlined everything a bit. Sorry I didn't reply sooner, but yeh, it was smothered in advertising and was pretty boring otherwise. Take the complaints about the show being scripted and multiply, heh. Maybe things have improved for this show though!
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Well looks like even a 'safe script' attracted sand in the lady garden http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jan/12/jeremyclarkson-top-gear
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188 complaints out of 5 million+ viewers. .00376%. Sesame street does worse than that.
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quote:"We were disappointed in the programme and have lodged a protest with the BBC," said an Indian diplomat working for the IHC who asked not to be named. Wow, sounds like this thread wrote to the Beeb. Also, I'm hoping they meant "We are not amused" to be read in a Queen voice.
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Good Lord, is there anybody left who isn't a whiney bitch about things? Does the American ambassador complain when Top Gear makes fun of Americans? I'd rather them yank TG off the air then change the format to some boring, lifeless format like pre-relaunch TG was.
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oxbrain posted:188 complaints out of 5 million+ viewers. .00376%. Sesame street does worse than that. You're assuming that those who complained also watched the program?  On the flip side; when was the last time a government official complained about a sesame street episode?  Edit: serious post time; complaints direct to the BBC from overseas officials will be getting a bit more attention at the BBC - the reason Clarkson has the charmed life regarding his comments is the bankroll he represents in terms of overseas sales of his show - if evidence that this market is "not amused" mounts... KuruMonkey fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Jan 13, 2012 |
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ZippySLC posted:I'd rather them yank TG off the air then change the format to some boring, lifeless format like pre-relaunch TG was. There is the happy middle ground; keep the general format, but stop lazily pretending that casual xenophobia and clumsy racial stereotypes are 'entertainment'. Of course; that does raise the problem that Clarkson is, really, a one-trick-pony, and that trick is 'being hilariously right wing for pay'.
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But don't you see, being casually racist is  becuase he doesn't obey the rules, man.
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KuruMonkey posted:On the flip side; when was the last time a government official complained about a sesame street episode? Probably when Katy Perry's tits were flopping all over while singing a song with Elmo. It didn't make it to air. I'm struggling to remember when exactly it was in the late 90's or early 00's when people were suddenly granted the right to not be offended by something they had direct control over seeing or hearing. Especially poo poo they'd otherwise never have known about had it not been for the media making a big scene. I remember a big backlash over 'the name that rhymes with a female body part' on Seinfeld. All they said was 'Dolores'!
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KuruMonkey posted:On the flip side; when was the last time a government official complained about a sesame street episode? You don't remember their homeless puppet? Or their HIV positive puppet?
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Philip J Fry posted:Probably when Katy Perry's tits were flopping all over while singing a song with Elmo. It didn't make it to air. People have been doing it forever. Look at the furore over Life of Brian for instance.
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KuruMonkey posted:There is the happy middle ground; keep the general format, but stop lazily pretending that casual xenophobia and clumsy racial stereotypes are 'entertainment'. Or, perhaps, you're just being too sensitive. Either way, if you're so offended, don't watch. Don't punish me by making it so that I can't be entertained by the show in it's current format.
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Philip J Fry posted:Probably when Katy Perry's tits were flopping all over while singing a song with Elmo. It didn't make it to air. This isn't something new, if your audience is large enough there will literally be at least one person who complains about something and if you're lucky, only one. The news format has changed where little stories like this seem more pervasive. The only reason this is a news article in any way is because an Indian government official sent a letter, and the only reason anyone is actually reading about it is because of the internet news format. Think about it this way, Justin Bieber received several thousand complaints about slightly changing his hairstyle. Even CNN put that story on their front page.
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Also, if there's even the slightest possibility that it might offend, the Indian government basically has to complain, even if they don't give a poo poo. It's politics. If all the Indian guys I know thought it was dumb fun, I'll take that as a more reasonable barometer.
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I would have thought the thing the Indians would have arced up about was the use of Bombay instead of its real name Mumbai. That really surprised me as that is a very touchy issue to the residents of said city as to a great many it brings back memory of the British occupation and all the unplesantness that bought with it. Everything else was frankly barely minor and just silly. Not really sure what Clarkson or the BBC were thinking with that one
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Cat Terrist posted:I would have thought the thing the Indians would have arced up about was the use of Bombay instead of its real name Mumbai. That really surprised me as that is a very touchy issue to the residents of said city as to a great many it brings back memory of the British occupation and all the unplesantness that bought with it. Everything else was frankly barely minor and just silly. Yeah, and on the map they spelt Kolkata in its pre-1947 format: Calcutta.
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No one here gives a poo poo about how you spell the names of the cities - it's all politics. I laughed my rear end off when the signs tore off, it was brilliant. The income disparity, however, is quite  but I was happy that they showed it.
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Dodoman posted:No one here gives a poo poo about how you spell the names of the cities - it's all politics. I laughed my rear end off when the signs tore off, it was brilliant. The income disparity, however, is quite Yes, but it's a politics the English are very awkwardly intertwined with.
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Cat Terrist posted:I would have thought the thing the Indians would have arced up about was the use of Bombay instead of its real name Mumbai. That really surprised me as that is a very touchy issue to the residents of said city as to a great many it brings back memory of the British occupation and all the unplesantness that bought with it. Everything else was frankly barely minor and just silly. I know at least a dozen people from Mumbai, they all call it Bombay.
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I agree that the Indian embassy need to stop being such weenies - the show is known to make some low-brow jokes about non-Britons in the world. That said, they really don't need to rely on those jokes for laughs as much as they do - there's plenty of good things to say about India (Mexico...it's a little harder, what with the cartels and lawlessness. But you could at least say something good about the food - it's generally fantastic), and I think if they had used a more exciting script but balanced it out with some love for India, it would have been a much better special. As well, more driving shenanigans would, imo, be more entertaining than the garden party with the Indian elite. There wasn't really anything terribly redeeming about that to me, just a whole lot of cringe-inducing moments. Jeremy really needs to tone down his politics a bit on the show - the occasional comment about poor folks can be amusing (it would be funnier if he didn't seem to genuinely think that the rich are Better than the poor), but at this point "right wing rear end in a top hat" is his entire persona. To wit, the last line of that Guardian article: quote:The BBC is also facing an investigation by Ofcom over Clarkson's recent rant onThe One Show, which led to the corporation receive 32,000 complaints about his comment that public sector workers who went on strike should be "executed in front of their families".
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It was weird how an entire service sector was dedicated to shipping lunch. If you want to make some money, start selling tupperware and microwaves in India.
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Ola posted:It was weird how an entire service sector was dedicated to shipping lunch. If you want to make some money, start selling tupperware and microwaves in India. I don't know. Having a piping hot fresh curry delivered from home sounds way better than one reheated in a microwave.
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