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I feel like if you can relate to any of Marc's craziness or insecurities it makes it a lot funnier. Otherwise it just comes off as sad.
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Maron can be a dickhead who has no respect for comedians who don't do it the way Maron considers to be right way, and I've been among those that criticize him for this on these forums. But I find myself anticipating the interviews with comedians that I assume Maron thinks are gimmick guys to see if Maron calls them out on it. Ralphie May for example, who is featured on the latest podcast which I haven't listened to yet, seems like a guy Maron would have no respect for. (I'm not a Ralphie May expert, but from what I've seen he would have no act without fat jokes, a fat version of Dat Phan) I don't think I am looking to enjoy someone being poo poo on. I think I enjoy Maron's personal conflict between trying to be a better, less bitter person and the reality that he is still the same dickhead who thinks the work of many other comedians is low grade crap and that they don't deserve their success.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I like that he gets big guests to open up but I really don't like Marc himself. His standup isn't funny at all and I skip his dumb rants every time. Recently TJ Miller tweeted something about Dane Cook's recent set where all he was doing was working out his personal issues onstage in the middle of a set and how comedians shouldn't do that. I feel like Marc Maron does that and nothing else. The thing is, that's what Maron does best, he works out his personal issues on stage (and in his podcast). I'm of the opinion that Maron is an excellent stand-up, and his newest album is one of my all time favorites, because of stuff like that. He's an intensely personal comedian, kind of a complete 180 from someone like Daniel Tosh, or Anthony Jeselnik, who are joke comedians through and through. Both have their merits, but one has a lot more punchlines, and the other has a lot more moments where you go "oh poo poo I do that holy crap are we messed up". If you're a perfectly rational and sane human being, you might not find Maron as funny. As for this whole "Dane Cook bombing hard" thing people keep talking about, I'm honestly on Dane's side. People bomb. It's a fact of comedy that you're gonna go up on stage and spectacularly fail. The whole "Dane Cook is onstage, shut the gently caress up" thing is a little awkward, but I get why he said it, because gently caress people talking while you're onstage. Dane has always been a bit serious in comedy (learned that from the WTF interview), and that comes off as douchey to some people, but he treats comedy as much more of a job than a lifestyle.
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I just listened to the Rainn Wilson episode, and it was pretty enjoyable. Thought it was funny when Rainn said something about seeing a mongoloid eating a cheeseburger in the airport. The last person I knew who thought "mongoloid" was an inoffensive term was my grandfather, and he's been dead for some time now. Good interview though, a lot better than I'd thought it would have been. The aborted USA network pilot sounded interesting, to say the least.
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Catching up on some WTF, and I really enjoyed getting into the mind of Steven Wright in his episode, even if there was nothing truly groundbreaking. How is the Penn Jillette interview? Worth checking out?
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Penn Jillette is a fascinating combination of someone who bugs me but who I'm fascinated by. It was either the WTF episode or the Nerdist one where he made a wonderful point about his atheism being influenced by the love of his mother which I thought was a very interesting and kinda heartwarming perspective
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Cervixalot posted:How is the Penn Jillette interview? Worth checking out? The one with Norm MacDonald was also really good. He's always been one of my favourite comics who never seemed to get the big break he deserved. Marc getting him to talk about his gambling problem was kind of shocking.
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kuddles posted:The one with Norm MacDonald was also really good. He's always been one of my favourite comics who never seemed to get the big break he deserved.  You sure you're talking about the right Norm MacDonald?
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mcvey posted:
Norm is loved by internet nerds but he's not the type to be headlining big budget Hollywood movies
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I guess compared to a lot of other SNL alumni he probably was pretty successful in the grand scheme of things, and I'm probably overstating it. I just meant that both his writing and stand-up were far better than he ever got respect for. He's now pretty much just doing stand-up and he doesn't draw very large crowds. Speaking of which, his stand-up special in unedited form is currently on Netflix and it is incredibly funny. kuddles fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jan 26, 2012 |
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Norm is loved by internet nerds but he's not the type to be headlining big budget Hollywood movies Right but he's definitely had his chances at a 'big break', his humor just isn't cut out for the mainstream.
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I like WTF. Listened to just about all of them. I get tired of him talking about his career but his insights are cool. Nothing mind blowing but enjoyable and great when I'm working. I don't get the obsession with him though.
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temple posted:I like WTF. Listened to just about all of them. I get tired of him talking about his career but his insights are cool. Nothing mind blowing but enjoyable and great when I'm working. I don't get the obsession with him though. He's a neurotic, solipsistic, self-destructive loving mess, and only slightly moreso than I am. I find him incredibly engaging, and I relate to him and his problems very, very well. That's why I like him, as I imagine a great many whirling dervishes of stunted psychological development do. I was knocked out to hear him talk about his inability to understand healthy competition because I'd never really heard someone discuss it in a way that I could relate to so thoroughly before. He's not mentally ill, but he's got so much scarring and faulty wiring that it's hard to tell the difference sometimes. Hearing someone realize, understand, and spend so much energy attempting to correct their problems makes me happy. It helps me understand that there are people like me who work hard to be a better person, and fall short every now and then. And he manages to be all of that all the while being really loving funny. I don't see him as some kind of guru or anything, but hearing him struggle with trying to be a decent, happy human being, and starting to come into his own after so much unbelievable self-inlicted failure is pretty remarkable. To tack a really asinine metaphor to it, I'm a bit of a Charlie-in-the-Box, and he's like the King of the Island of Misfit Toys. That might not be the answer you were looking for, but that's why I'm such big fan of his, anyway.
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Maron is how I imagine an alternate-universe version of Howard Stern ended up. No millions of dollars, no sycophants. Just a crazy Jew ranting in his garage surrounded by cats who is still capable of conducting some amazing and captivating interviews.
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Wow Tod Glass chose a perfect way to come out. A close friend of mine came out to me within the last year so this was pretty interesting. Good to see I reacted pretty much the same way Marc did.
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Jan 28, 2012 20:32
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Anybody listen to Marc on Pete Holmes' podcast? I had no idea that his young girlfriend Jessica is the stalker chick who sent him pictures of her vagina from his routine. It makes toooooo much sense.
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Feb 2, 2012 06:25
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Mordecai Sanchez posted:Anybody listen to Marc on Pete Holmes' podcast? I had no idea that his young girlfriend Jessica is the stalker chick who sent him pictures of her vagina from his routine. It makes toooooo much sense. Wait I thought he was dating Jessi Klein. At least the pic I saw looked like her.
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Feb 2, 2012 06:31
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The girl Marc is dating is not a comic. Just a fan.
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CommunistMojo posted:Wait I thought he was dating Jessi Klein. At least the pic I saw looked like her. His girlfriend is in her late 20s. And Marc has changed the locks on his house once already. I'm sure this is going to end well for him.
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Caught up on a few other recent-ish WTFs, and I have to recommend the Michael Ian Black interview. Marc seems to be looking for closure to their sorta-feud, but still takes some passive aggressive digs at Black throughout the interview. Not sure what to make of the whole thing, but interesting nonetheless.
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Halfway through the Matt Graham interview. It is no mystery why I haven't heard of this guy, he is a creepy rear end in a top hat.
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Bunk Rogers posted:Halfway through the Matt Graham interview. It is no mystery why I haven't heard of this guy, he is a creepy rear end in a top hat.
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Glad my opinion about Matt wasn't alone. Jesus Christ.. this guy is a loving lunatic that shouldn't be allowed to be out in public unsupervised.
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Bill Lawrence interview was pretty good, nothing mindblowing but enjoyable. Also for some reason I've always pictured him as an older guy (older guy bags hot wife situation), but he's not. I wish they had talked about Clone High though 
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I enjoy listening to someone who is kinda hosed up because I relate to a lot of it, but I just listened to the Dane Cook episode and it made me feel bad for Dane. I feel like they didn't fully understand each other and never really met in the middle - that whole motherfucker thing could have been cleared up with better communication and the whole episode was littered with spots where they were going in different directions which caused unnecessary friction. The Louis CK episode was nice though.
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I love the end of the second Louis CK episode which is essentially him as a friend calling Marc out on his passive agressive attitude being a direct contributor to his feelings that all his comedian colleagues abandoning him.
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I'm guessing that a lot of people in this thread follow Marc on Twitter anyway, but he announced earlier that he's going to have Wayne Coyne from The Flaming Lips on, which made me ridiculously excited since Wayne's an excellent combination of insightful and nuts.
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Cast No Engine posted:Bill Lawrence interview was pretty good, nothing mindblowing but enjoyable. Also for some reason I've always pictured him as an older guy (older guy bags hot wife situation), but he's not. Miller is something like five or six years older than him, as I recall.
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Mescal posted:I want to see some standup live soon, since that would probably be different. The way the audience and the comic interact would be fun to be a part of. Probably like how going to a show is different from listening to a record. I know this is from a long time ago, but if you haven't seen stand-up live then you haven't seen stand-up. Paul F. Tompkins firmly believes that they shouldn't have stand-up on TV because it's completely different (and worse in every way). It's very ignorant to say you don't like stand-up comedy but never actually see it Also I can't loving stand Marc Maron, but I like the occasional interview he does. He's not the worst comedian/interviewer - that's Paul Gilmartin by a mile - but Maron can really come off like a dick. In his Joe Rogan thing he's blaming Joe (and Fear Factor) for like everything that's wrong with American culture and it just comes off as arrogant liberal elitism. Like, the kind Bill O'Reilly is always harping on about. His conversation with Garofalo on politics is similarly unlistenable. But then he'll do some great stuff like the Mike DiStefano show. Oh, and also, see how many of your favourite comedians Maron claims to have a rocky past with. Paul F. Tompkins, Patton Oswalt, a bunch of others. So enter at your own risk, but there's nobody like Marc.
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drat, the intro was 20 minutes for the Maher episode. I've been skipping through the intros until I hear the guest talk. Am I missing anything?
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Blackula69 posted:I know this is from a long time ago, but if you haven't seen stand-up live then you haven't seen stand-up. Paul F. Tompkins firmly believes that they shouldn't have stand-up on TV because it's completely different (and worse in every way). It's very ignorant to say you don't like stand-up comedy but never actually see it You're right. Since then, I've seen live standup a few times. I went to the Helium open mic here in Portland, and one regular show there. I was really impressed by the fact that 90% of the open mic amateurs actually had good material. It's like the difference between hearing classical on AM and going to see an orchestra. But I'm still basically where I was--interested in comedy, fascinated by the hosed-up people who do it, but somehow not exactly a fan.
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Blackula69 posted:He's not the worst comedian/interviewer - that's Paul Gilmartin by a mile I'm curious, what about Gilmartin do you object to? I assume you refer to the Mental Illness Happy Hour, and although I haven't listened to every episode, the ones that I have listened to have seemed well-conducted and managed to properly balance the sensitive/inquisitive that drives the interview and the comedic that keeps things from getting too heavy for interviewee/audience. Not to say he's flawless in his approach by any means but I think he does a great job of cultivating an environment where people really feel comfortable opening up, even more so than on WTF.
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Oh yeah, definitely, but listen again and count how many times he misinterprets what a guest was saying or misunderstands something or loses his place. It's incredibly frustrating
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Blackula69 posted:Oh yeah, definitely, but listen again and count how many times he misinterprets what a guest was saying or misunderstands something or loses his place. It's incredibly frustrating I really noticed this in his interview with Kulap.
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Feb 17, 2012 06:27
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Yeah, that's the one I first noticed it in and couldn't un-hear it. But this is about Marc Maron. Who's the Onion writer who he interviewed in...an important hotel in the guy's life? Because that interview was soul-changing
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GraPar posted:I'm guessing that a lot of people in this thread follow Marc on Twitter anyway, but he announced earlier that he's going to have Wayne Coyne from The Flaming Lips on, which made me ridiculously excited since Wayne's an excellent combination of insightful and nuts. If Marc's doing interviews with music people now I'd donate organs or bone marrow to hear Marc's ego clash with Anton Newcombe's. That would be the funniest. Gosh.
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NotWearingPants posted:drat, the intro was 20 minutes for the Maher episode. Not really. Most of them are basically Maron doing self-therapy - like "I bought grapes and thought about DEATH" or "My girlfriend told me she loved me, but I didn't like her tone of voice, so I told her she could get hosed by dogs in hell!" and sometimes he does kind of a practice routine for what he does on stage (I assume). For the Maher episode it was more of the latter, some observations about his house and another on God and belief. It was okay but definitely skippable.
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