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Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

Here are the links to these episodes, since they're available on PRX but not on his website. These might be the censored versions, but I like the PRX packages since you can just click on the segment you want to hear.

Episode 67: Robin Williams

http://www.prx.org/pieces/63067-wtf-episode-106-with-robin-williams

Episodes 75/76: Carlos Mencia

http://www.prx.org/pieces/63069-wtf-episode-108-with-carlos-mencia

Episode 85: Dane Cook

http://www.prx.org/pieces/63071-wtf-episode-110-dane-cook-janeane-garofalo

Episodes 103/104: Judd Apatow

http://www.prx.org/pieces/62998-wtf-episode-101-with-judd-apatow

Episodes 111/112: Louis C.K.

http://www.prx.org/pieces/63053-wtf-episode-104-with-louis-ck

Episode 130: Mike DeStefano

http://www.prx.org/pieces/63068-wtf-episode-with-107-mike-destefano-margaret-ch

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Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

It seems like on some older episodes, the initial rant was interesting and related to other things. But lately, it seems like he only spends time talking in front of the interview if he has to fill space.

Question: is his standup any good? A friend of mine says it isn't as good as his interviews. I think that's interesting if it's true. That he spent so many years on one thing, then figured out he was good at another thing and found success at that.

BTW, WTF has really gotten me into comics, but not comedy. I don't particularly care about standup, but the comic's mind is really interesting to me. The whole academic and psychological/psychoanalytic aspect of the show is the draw for me.

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

Mordecai Sanchez posted:

I'm curious. How does one not like stand-up? Do you not enjoy laughing? It's like saying you don't enjoy music or films but enjoy reading up on the creative minds that create this art.

I don't dislike it. I've listened to CDs from about a half-dozen well-respected standups in the last couple weeks, and they were fine. I laughed more than a couple times.

But the art has its limitations. Even if the comedian is pretty out there, it's a format that's fairly easy to understand and predict. I appreciate its purity, but other forms of comedy that are more plot-based are more satisfying to me.

By the way, your comment's right--I don't enjoy music or films as much as I like playing music or writing stories. Anything completely engaging and active is better for me than sitting down and listening.

I want to see some standup live soon, since that would probably be different. The way the audience and the comic interact would be fun to be a part of. Probably like how going to a show is different from listening to a record.

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

indigi posted:

You sound like a really great guy to hang out with

Oh God, you're right, this is why it's so difficult for me to maintain relationships and find any fulfillment in interaction with other people

MERRY CHRISTMAS

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

Blackula69 posted:

I know this is from a long time ago, but if you haven't seen stand-up live then you haven't seen stand-up. Paul F. Tompkins firmly believes that they shouldn't have stand-up on TV because it's completely different (and worse in every way). It's very ignorant to say you don't like stand-up comedy but never actually see it




You're right. Since then, I've seen live standup a few times. I went to the Helium open mic here in Portland, and one regular show there. I was really impressed by the fact that 90% of the open mic amateurs actually had good material.

It's like the difference between hearing classical on AM and going to see an orchestra. But I'm still basically where I was--interested in comedy, fascinated by the hosed-up people who do it, but somehow not exactly a fan.

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

inferis posted:

I can understand not liking Maron, but it seems strange to me to enjoy the show if you don't like him.



Do you like the most interesting character from your favorite movie? Maybe, maybe not. It's fun to check out challenging media. Maron is hard to ignore in part because he is an rear end in a top hat in ways that we all secretly are. I'm pretty sure Freud said we all have an id, ego, maron, and superego, and the maron is usually the most suppressed.

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Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

El Gallinero Gros posted:

And Dennis has a better reason than some for turning right-wing post 9/11 (he lost a friend in the attack, IIRC)

I... don't see the connection.

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