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Politicalrancor posted:Old comics who get upset by "oversensitivity " typically are just assholes. If you're gonna say hurtful poo poo, own up to it instead of blaming the audience. This is sort of my deal and Maron becomes totally insufferable when he starts to rant about "sensitive" people having the nerve to be offended by some of the horrible poo poo comedians routinely get away with saying. Humor has a long tradition of being used as a weapon against different cultures, backgrounds, and lifestyles and stand up comics like pretend they aren't part of that while playing the "it's just joke!" card. Louis C.K. is actually a great example of this and it's part of what's wrong with the whole "scene"--he's a hero to a huge number of standups despite the fact that his act is essentially just him copping to being a total piece of poo poo and his show is a goddamn catastrophe. Actually one of the most surprising and fun interviews that Marc has done is with a rando comic named "Killer Beaz" (#282) who laid that whole issue out and was dead on when he was explaining why he doesn't do racial humor of any kind, even in like the deep rear end south. Laughter, he says (and there's some science to back this up it turns out), is about inclusion. You make people feel safe when they're part of an audience, like they're part of the group, and laughter is kind of a way of expressing this. And comics who get laughs by making people feel excluded have to do a lot better than pretending to be special artistic snowflakes who can't be censored as Marc is prone to doing.
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kuddles posted:The annoying thing about Maron is that it clearly depends on whether or not he likes the comedian or not personally to determine whether or not it's an issue worth challenging. Gallagher is on and he spends the whole time trying to attack his act as being insensitive, but then Patrice O'Neal gets a completely free pass on the misogynist parts of his routine. Yeah that Patrice O'Neal episode was really hard to listen to. The Kamau Bell episode (325) tops it in terms of shear awkwardness though as Marc becomes more and more defensive and venomous using Kamau as a proxy to argue with some guy who sent him an e-mail once.
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