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ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

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HarveyVdarski posted:

Anyone got any others? I got a new kindle and it's ACHING for more history books.

I really like Salt and Cod, both by Mark Kurlansky:
http://www.amazon.com/Salt-A-World-History-ebook/dp/B003WUYE70/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1325773189&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Cod-Biography-Changed-World-ebook/dp/B001QWFY9I/ref=sr_1_4?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1325773189&sr=1-4

Both trace history through a particular focus, and pretty convincingly show how that focus was a major impact on various historical developments (including the American Civil War).

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ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

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House Louse posted:

This is almost totally wrong.

Your quote, interestingly, is not the same in the version I just downloaded.

Salt, Page 153 posted:

In the thirteenth century, a group of religious extremists based in the town of Albi and known as the Albigensians, inspired Pope Innocent III to launch a series of crusades to cleanse the region of "heretics". Asked how to recognise a heretic from a true believer, one crusader, according to legend, said "Kill them all. God knows his own." The chaos that ensued from this approach is known as the Albigensian Wars. In 1229 Louis IX[...] concluded a treaty to end the French campaign against the Albigensians....

The changes (highlighted above) correct who were the Albigensians / Cathars and who were the crusaders. The Treaty of Paris was signed in 1229 by Louis IX. So, if there was an oversight there, it's corrected in the current version.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

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smr posted:

What argument would you want? "No, salt sucks and never should have gotten this important!"? I mean... it is what it is, there's not a lot of controversy to be generated by it. An engaging retelling of its history is enjoyable on its own without forcing some kind of argument into the tale.

Agreed on this one; the book is just a well-written history of Salt and its relationship to humanity.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

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snoremac posted:

Aside from the savagery of the colonizers, one of the worst things was how Leopold successfully sold the colonization to Europe as a humanitarian effort.

Also an early example of a "hands-off" management style.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

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Punkin Spunkin posted:

Are there any fairminded biographies/histories of Huey P Long that don't immediately get into tut tutting All the King's Men type bullshit? Love to read more about the man

Yeah, you want the T. Harry Williams one from 1981 (originally from 1970, when it won a National Book Award and a Pulitzer Prize). Has a lot of oral history in it.

Sadly no kindle version.
https://www.amazon.com/Huey-Long-T-Harry-Williams/dp/0394747909/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498762470&sr=8-1&keywords=huey+long
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Harry_Williams#Fascination_with_Huey_Long

ulmont fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jun 29, 2017

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

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StrixNebulosa posted:

Okay, weird request but I need something uplifting as I trudge through King Leopold's Ghost: are there any uplifting nonfiction books? I understand human history is a long train of people screwing each other over but surely there must be something cool to read about besides the space race.

Read anything by Mary Roach:

Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003M5IGE2/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i2

Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00421BN2C/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0

Gulp: Adventures on the Alimentary Canal
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AN86JZ4/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i4

etc. If those land for you, look for general deep dives into some aspect of the world (Mark Kurlansky's Salt and Cod come to mind after that). Not necessarily uplifting per se, but often interesting.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

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Cyrano4747 posted:

Yeah the brutal overseer who is operating that way without the knowledge of the benevolent was a pretty typical stock character.

...also in Russia, where hating the Cossacks and wishing the Czar knew what was going on so they could stop it is about as common.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

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Minenfeld! posted:

That's an interesting theory. But how do they determine why a country gets an extractive versus inclusive institution?

An interesting first cut is if your country was colonized by anyone other than the English, or by the English.

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ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

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No Wave posted:

Is this the only book about China in WW2?

I judge all books about China in WW2 by how much emphasis they put on the Flying Tiger, so I can tell you there are some others. Unfortunately, I can't remember what the best Flying Tiger books were.

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