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Logikv9 posted:This is exactly why I'm putting a hold on buying this. Buying first-gen is just awful (Xoom was the worst thing ever) and even though its tempting, after a few days of what I'm sure will be plenty of angst about lovely battery/speed, I will regret the purchase. Yeah, I'm really hoping the battery issues aren't as bad as they seem, but at the moment I'm leaning towards waiting for the ZenWatch.
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Ill enjoy the 360 or Ill return it. Its a new device catagory for me, and at the very least it will decide if I like the category in general. If I do, I can always upgrade to a next gen smartwatch when they come out. If not, well, I'll return it and go buy a PS4. 
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Sep 8, 2014 03:27
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I would like a 360 but i think the cut off at the bottom would drive my ocd rear end bonkers.
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Wait so Motorola chanced to a batch of lovely 2010 TI arm chips (TI quit arm chip business in 2012) from a dumpster and decided to make some smartwatches?  Maybe next time buy some Snapdragon 400's. They aren't that expensive, and everyone else uses them!
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Ihmemies posted:Wait so Motorola chanced to a batch of lovely 2010 TI arm chips (TI quit arm chip business in 2012) from a dumpster and decided to make some smartwatches? Technical TI only stopped putting them in smart phones. They continue to make them for snall other embedded devices. Either way its an odd choice. Likely they got a killer deal on old TI stock and were building to a specific price. I'm getting this 360 because I want it more as a curiosity thing, though. Its a first gen device so there's going to be some rough edges. I'm also starting to learn to develop so it'll be fun having a watch to mess around on.
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Sep 8, 2014 11:26
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360 has an awful CPU and the G Watch has an awful screen type. Come on now, how hard is it really?
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Sep 8, 2014 14:33
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Maybe the G Watch R will be perfect, if you like analog watch faces? 
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Sep 8, 2014 15:03
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This just may solve all your problems if you want a good screen and amazing battery life. Of course it's not really a watch but who doesn't want a PIP boy?
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Sep 8, 2014 15:56
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Alan_Shore posted:This just may solve all your problems if you want a good screen and amazing battery life. Of course it's not really a watch but who doesn't want a PIP boy? It could be cool, but that name is just terrible.
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Sep 8, 2014 16:00
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It just seems like it all comes down to Ambient mode on the 360. If the watch is active, it's burning through battery. If you let it sleep, it's ok. So, if you don't mind having the watch face blank when not looking at it, it's probably fine. http://www.droid-life.com/2014/09/08/moto-360-ambient-screen-mode/ quote:The Ambient Screen setting is turned off by default out of the box. Thats probably a good thing. In my testing thus far, I was able to kill my Moto 360 completely (as in it completely powered off) in about 13 hours of use with Ambient Screen turned to on. Thats not good enough. If you were to take your 360 off its charger in the morning, go to work, use it throughout the day, and then arrive home roughly 12 hours later, your 360 would be on its last ounces of juice. If you decide to go out for the evening, your 360 more than likely wont make it through the night.
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Sep 8, 2014 16:35
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If i gotta do something more than look at it then i might as well get my phone out.
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mAlfunkti0n posted:It could be cool, but that name is just terrible. Yeah, it's not... the best. I'm terrible with coming up with names though. Looking forward to mine though. I've wanted a smart watch for years. YEARS. Even had a pretty lame Chinese one from Amazon that had a little stylus so you could send texts on the world's smallest keyboard. My Cuff comes in March. As long as it doesn't get delayed again 
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Don Lapre posted:If i gotta do something more than look at it then i might as well get my phone out. That's up to you. I would still find a tap of the screen if it didn't recognize me looking at the watch for some reason to be less troublesome than pulling my phone out of my pocket. Really though, for me it's about not missing notifications when my phone is in my pocket. Always-on tanks the battery of all the android wear smart watches on the market and likely will continue to do so without a drastic breakthrough in screen tech. It's just exasperated on the 360 by the bad choice in SoC. Really though, the takeaway right now is the 360 is still the only one on the market or coming up soon that feels and looks like a real watch on the wrist. The LG G R is closer, but it still lacks a lot of refinement in comparison on the physical design of the 360. The Zenwatch has a premium look and feel, but still misses out a bit on the watch form factor (see the comment about lug to lug distance in the Ars 360 review.) Beyond that, we are probably 6-9 months away from a product refresh from existing manufacturers to try again. So, it's either the 360 now, or wait. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Sep 8, 2014 |
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Sep 8, 2014 16:52
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Qualcomm seems to be doing alright getting Snapdragons into Android Wear, maybe it is time for some Mirasol action?
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Three Olives posted:Qualcomm seems to be doing alright getting Snapdragons into Android Wear, maybe it is time for some Mirasol action? Mirasol would be the perfect application here, but I can't help but think it's still too expensive or we would have seen it pop up by now.
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Sep 8, 2014 17:22
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bull3964 posted:Mirasol would be the perfect application here, but I can't help but think it's still too expensive or we would have seen it pop up by now. I think this is where Apple might not gently caress up watches, do it right or just don't bother. I would much more interested in a Moto 360 had they not crippled it with lovely battery life, price it $100 more, don't put a crap processor in it, put a OLED display with a low power mode in. I get that it is a relatively new category and they are trying to be price sensitive but what is the point of saving $50-$100 if we are still talking $250 for a crippled product? We aren't exactly at the impulse purchase range.
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Three Olives posted:I think this is where Apple might not gently caress up watches, do it right or just don't bother. I would much more interested in a Moto 360 had they not crippled it with lovely battery life, price it $100 more, don't put a crap processor in it, put a OLED display with a low power mode in. Android manufacturers do things differently from Apple. This kind of thing where the first generation or two have a lot of compromises is just the way they do it. If it would have taken them another 6 months to work out all the issues, they would have been missing out on 6 months of selling product. This way they get something out there that some people will buy and that gives them lots of real-world usage data. Of course, there's downsides as well. They may tarnish their image too much or whatever. Obviously, they decided it was worth doing the release, and I don't think we can say whether it was a bad idea or not. Personally, I'm always a fan of releasing early and iterating quickly.
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Sep 8, 2014 17:55
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As great as Apple is about launching stuff, I don't think they are going to pull off a watch concept that anyone other than the diehard Apple fan will buy. Pretty much the same thing right now with all wearable tech, the general public just isn't into it yet.
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mAlfunkti0n posted:As great as Apple is about launching stuff, I don't think they are going to pull off a watch concept that anyone other than the diehard Apple fan will buy. Pretty much the same thing right now with all wearable tech, the general public just isn't into it yet. Not to be all Apple fans  but unless the iWatch is so bad that someone like Mossberg says it is utter garbage I find it hard to believe that Apple won't be minting cash with the iWatch as even just a fashion accessory. It would have to be bad, bad, bad for them not to sell a shitload of them, like Fitbit Force contact dermatitis bad.
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Sep 8, 2014 18:29
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Three Olives posted:Not to be all Apple fans It depends. Watches are a funny thing. One of the (eventual) strengths of Android Wear is we're going to have a lot of choices in style and size. Apple will probably pull off something very nice and very competently put together, but also something that's not going to be very individual. I don't know how many people will buy into having the same thing on their wrist as everyone else. It's something that works fine for phones, but it's a different dynamic when you are looking at something like a watch. It will be neat to see what they come up with. However, unless they reverse tack about cross platform compatibility, whatever they announce will be useless to me. On the 360, Moto has shown off the design iterations of the device. http://www.droid-life.com/2014/09/08/moto-360-prototypes/ One interesting thing is they did toy with a fully round watch that necessitated a larger bezel. They felt the more minimal bezel was the way to go.
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Sep 8, 2014 18:37
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bull3964 posted:That's up to you. I would still find a tap of the screen if it didn't recognize me looking at the watch for some reason to be less troublesome than pulling my phone out of my pocket. Really though, for me it's about not missing notifications when my phone is in my pocket.
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Damnit. Just waltzed into a Best Buy and bought the last black 360 they had. I don't even want it that much...tempted to flip on Swappa, but that's too much hassle. Here we go! Edit: it's got a dead green pixel. Yay! Edit again: Taking the band off every single night will get old, fast. I know, you do that with any Android Wear watch, but this band is finicky and hard to remove for some reason. If I do keep it, time to find a metal band with a quick release clasp. hotsauce fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Sep 9, 2014 |
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Sep 8, 2014 23:28
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You usually sleep with a watch on?
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hotsauce posted:Damnit. Just waltzed into a Best Buy and bought the last black 360 they had. I don't even want it that much...tempted to flip on Swappa, but that's too much hassle. This is good. It means a price drop and updated model will release soon.
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Reverse Centaur posted:You usually sleep with a watch on? Well touche my friend. I haven't worn a watch in years, so perhaps I didn't think about that... I haven't been able to touch it because the OTA wouldn't install. Kept saying "charge your device" or something. It's at 90% after 1.5 hrs (was 25% out of the box). The dead pixel is aggravating from what I noticed earlier. Maybe it's a sign...
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Motorola pushed an update to the Moto Connect app for the 2013/2014 phones to add Moto 360 integration, and they've gone totally amateur hour with it. If you pair an Android Wear device, regardless of make/model, to a Motorola phone, the phone assumes the Wear device is a 360 and uploads the Motorola watchfaces and apps to it. Oh yeah, in addition to cluttering up the watch, it will crash your watch if you should mistakenly use any of them.
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kitten smoothie posted:Motorola pushed an update to the Moto Connect app for the 2013/2014 phones to add Moto 360 integration, and they've gone totally amateur hour with it. Why would you buy an android wear device that isn't a 360 though?
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Don Lapre posted:Why would you buy an android wear device that isn't a 360 though? Why would you buy a 360 though?
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Update. The dead pixel fixed itself... Just ordered a black pebble steel band. Trip report on Thursday if anyone cares.
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hotsauce posted:Damnit. Just waltzed into a Best Buy and bought the last black 360 they had. I don't even want it that much...tempted to flip on Swappa, but that's too much hassle. I'm a little ticked that you were able to just waltz in and grab one as they're not supposed to be restocked till Sunday.
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hotsauce posted:Update. The dead pixel fixed itself... The end links on Pebble Steel bands are proprietary, and will fit poorly, if at all, on a 360.
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IuniusBrutus posted:The end links on Pebble Steel bands are proprietary, and will fit poorly, if at all, on a 360. Damnit. I thought it was a standard 22". Time to cancel.
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drat- looks like all the iWatch stuff leaked out ahead of the keynote. You guys saw this video, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYzsKbMu-4
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Shipment notification and tracking number for my wear just arrived (play store, Friday order). Paid for overnight so I'll have it in hand [Tuesday]. Impressions to follow, and I'll report battery percentages on Wednesday. I haven't worn a watch in years, so it will be very interesting regardless.
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Rocco posted:drat- looks like all the iWatch stuff leaked out ahead of the keynote. You guys saw this video, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYzsKbMu-4 Was this supposed to be funny?
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I've failed to find a 360 in a best buy enough times to make myself wait for the watch I really want, the LG. Good job with your limited, terrible launch, moto. That only works when you don't have superior competition about to roll out their products.
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eyebeem posted:I've failed to find a 360 in a best buy enough times to make myself wait for the watch I really want, the LG. Its really not all that great. Screen is lower res, its chunky and large and we all know about the battery life. I just sold mine on eBay for way too much. People are strange. The buyer is emailing me to ship NOW!! Its 6am here. Please relax.
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hotsauce posted:Its really not all that great. Screen is lower res, its chunky and large and we all know about the battery life. I'll have mine tomorrow, I should dump it on ebay too.
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http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/09/ifixit-cracks-open-the-moto-360-finds-smaller-battery-than-advertised/ Oops. We really meant 300mAh...rite guys?
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iFix it posted:As for other shortcomings that accounted for a 3 out of 10 repairability score, iFixit found some issues with advertised battery life vs what the device is actually capable of: Talk around the water cooler is that the Moto 360 suffers from an abysmal battery life. Motorola claims 320 mAh. Inside we find a 3.8 V, 300 mAh battery rated for 1.1 Wh of energy. We did some mathemagics, and 1.1 Wh / 3.8 V = 289 mAh, a full 10% less than advertised on Motos site. Were not sure if thats a rounding error or what; we just reports what we finds. That is straight up bullshit, what the hell Motorola?
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