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Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Well, I mean this is coming from someone who hasn't played the system and so maybe there's something I've missed, but if you have a very, very common piece of technology that you can easily rig to destroy a planet, why do you even need a death star? I can understand some form of pacification weapon, or even something that kills everyone on a planet while leaving it inhabitable, but we're expressly shown that the Death Star cracks planets like a loving walnut. Why would you need to spend the time, effort, money, and manpower to build one if you can just take a cargo hauler, tweak the hyperdrive, and point it at Alderaan?

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Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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I don't want to be the broken record, but that's a large part of what balance can be so key. In a properly-balanced system, the DM wouldn't have been able to pull a bullshit move like that without going so far out of his way to obviously do so. You make it so the player can't utterly gently caress his character through no fault of his own, and make it so the DM can't just "accidentally" one-shot your PC with level-appropriate mobs, and things like that become much more rare, although probably not ever stopped completely.

Sure, nothing's ever going to stop the guy from just declaring "I'm the DM, and so I say a greater bone dragon swoops in and one-shots you with his Fuckoff Dragon Laser Breath", but at the very least it doesn't give them that annoying veil of semi-legitimacy to hide behind.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Also, maybe put in some context for non-40k fans, so we can better understand the story. Stuff like: "Tyranid (Hive-mind specialist battle-bugs, think Zerg on crack.)" "Primarch (Basically, uber-marines. The sons of a living god from which all Space Marines are descended.)" "Trygon (Whatever the goddamned gently caress a Trygon is, probably something big and dangerous.)"

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Dammit Who? posted:

You want to murder children based solely on their race, and you're calling him Hitler?

:golfclap: Bravo, bravo. Bards will sing of this :master: for years to come

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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God, that story never gets old. :allears:

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Really Pants posted:

Dungeons and :doink:

Take Aye, Dark Overlord, throw the whole thing together with Dungeons and Dragons, and then add in a splash of Phoenix Wright. Game of the Year 2013.

Edit: Son of a bitch. Now I'm sad that it doesn't exist. Someone make this a thing, please!

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Objection! The witness is obviously under a charm spell. Prosecution moves his testimony be struck from the record.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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:objection:

Yawgmoth posted:

Everyone I've taught has said how much they like my method and a few have actually gone out and made decks of their own, which really pleases me.

He takes pleasure from trapping people in an addictive hobby that will suck up all of their money and time, leaving them as nerdy shells of their former selves! His evil plan has been exposed!

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Yeah, holy crap. He started off the crazy one, but you are seriously closing the distance, dude. Write this guy off before he drives you completely off the deep end. Remember, when you wrestle a pig, you get dirty and the pig has all the fun.

Honestly, though, you are getting way too worked up about this. Being in the right only carries you so far. About the point you started slinging ad hominem attacks at the little weirdo and just straight-out berating him, you toed the line. Don't let him get to you like that. Cool off, put him on ignore, and get your players back from that toxic group.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Gay uncle, I am so glad I don't play with you. God forbid the DM give another character some chance to shine, because if all eyes aren't on you at all times you'll just be an utter dick for no goddamned reason. loving hell, that is some childish poo poo.

Also, excellent use of the word "we" when you mean "me".

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Try that Hyperdrive Asteroid trick again. Give them a taste of their own medicine!

Also, wait a tic... wasn't the Lusankya a prison? Does that mean that it's currently filled with prisoners? How could they convert it from a detention center to a serviceable warship so quickly? Especially since they don't have the Kuat Drive Yards in their hands yet?

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

Sadly, we are out of Torpedo Spheres. That is, we have two of them, in the Countess' fleet - but they have been heavily reconfigured, the torpedo launchers torn out and replaced with anti-starfighter weaponry; they're now point-defense platforms.

I thought the real meat of a Torpedo Sphere was the 100+ Turbolasers the drat thing had on it? Can't you just drop one dead ahead of an ISD and watch the lasers chew it apart?

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

In addition they can only point 50 torpedo tubes (and, one imagines, a comparable fraction of turbolaser batteries) at a ship-sized target at once.

Ahh, I didn't know this. The way I'd always heard them described, they were designed to focus everything on a single point, torpedoes and lasers, and punch a hole in planetary shields. I didn't realize they could only bring like 10% of their weaponry to bear on a single target at a time. I'd always envisioned them like miniature Death Stars.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Last night's game was pretty badass. One of my players rolled a new character, since we're a real small group I made a Fighter to go along with them, and came up with a new storyline to go along with the new PCs. M rolled a tanky Paladin named Bartholomew, and T kept his heavy-damage Rogue named Albrecht.

The backstory for Bart is pretty basic, his order sends him to a town full of atheists to try and convert them all. Al, however, has got a whole deal where he's a member of an order of thieves and assassins. The head of the order is his father, but has never told him. While on a mission, he recieves a message that they're going to get raided, and by the time he arrives back they're all missing. So, he starts hanging around with Monks and Paladins of the order that was planning the raid to try and get some information, I.E. Bart's church. A little bending of the truth later, and he's infiltrated the group to spy on Bart.

Now, they get to the town, repair an old church, snoop a bit, so on and so forth. I'm trying to give equal time to both of them, but by the time they start to finish up with an ambush I'm feeling like maybe I've been concentrating on Bart too much, and it's time to give Al some major face time. So the big reveal happens, and the reason that the town is full of "atheists" is because they're all actually part of a secret church. The same church which Al's old order belonged to. So he convinces them he's cool, and the group infiltrates their enormous underground cathedral. He drops some information that Bart's order knows they're there, and in exchange the head priest dude tells him about his order. I tell him that his order was raided before anyone had a chance to respond, and by the time backup arrived only a few people were left alive. Women, children, and a couple of men who ran and hid instead of fighting. The men have been imprisoned for that, and the women and children are scattered among other orders. He promises more information the next day, and asks them to spend the night, which they do.

Al tells Bart to keep quiet, don't mention that he's a Paladin, and they'll stay one more night before leaving and reporting to his higher-ups. Meanwhile, he tells me that if poo poo goes down, he's going to hang Bart up to dry. (Admittadly, he said that he didn't want to cause friction in the party, but I told him to do what his character would, and let me worry about keeping everything together. I had a plan.)

So the next day arrives, and the head priest takes them back to meet with the Grand Head of the order. Talks start off nice, until this sequence of events:

(Paraphrased slightly, because I don't remember exactly what we said.)

:catholic: Now, how about you explain to us exactly how this church knows about us? Nobody should know about us, we've kept extreme secrecy on this matter. In fact, you're the only one who seems to know all about this. How do you know that they know?
:ninja: How do I know? Because this man is a Paladin of their order. I've stuck around with him to get information.
:catholic: What!? You would bring a Paladin of their order into our most sacred cathedral!?
:ninja: Well yeah, but it's fine, we can just kill him now. Here, I'll help.
:catholic: Yes, yes, kill him now. Let him be your little scapegoat, and then you get away scot-free and go back to his church, hmm? You know, you were the only one who wasn't there when your order was raided...
:ninja: ...
:catholic: Did he tell you who we found, when we arrived? Among the cowards who fled instead of fought? The head of your order. Your father.
:ninja: What!?
:catholic:I'm sure you know of our teachings, Cowardice Breeds Cowardice. Tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to give you a head start.

The door opens behind them, they take off running. After a chase sequence, a mysterious gift from someone, and a sacrifice from some members of Al's order who still believed in him, they manage to make it back to Bart's HQ.

:ninja: Welp, we're going back there. So that I can kill them all.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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While I don't understand how the "suppressing her magic" thing fits into it, basically the employer was Lisa, made up to look like a flamboyant dude. That's why he mentioned early on that the guy had no facial hair. She couldn't grow it.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Man, I wish I could remember which smiley is the can of worms blowing open, because it would be very appropriate right now.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Thuryl posted:

We had to manipulate our own allies and throw a sincere offer of peace back in the face of our enemy to do it, but we've struck a decisive blow for the freedom of our people -- on balance, it was worth it.

Stories like these are why I could never play a good evil game. Or hell, even morally ambiguous. I would have flipped my poo poo when the dude attacked the General and probably hosed everything up. This story is amazing, keep them coming!

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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HiKaizer posted:

I don't remember Gandalf hitting terminal velocity and colliding with a world ending horrorbeast but I'll freely admit it's been some time since I read LotR.

What do you think happened after he fell from the bridge? :science:

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Tollymain posted:

i just wanna play AW before i die

:smith::hf::smith:

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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I believe Gamma World. And that story was balls-out amazing.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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The rest of the party wants to continue the adventure? gently caress that, I want a solo quest to get my manic pixie dream monk more beer! Verisimilitude!

Although the question remains of why there were bodies left for the monk to loot! Did they kill them all and decide to just walk away?

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Wow, dude. Your players are... wow. If I'm following this right, one (or more) of your players rapes an npc, then tortures the npc, then decides to have wacky fun in a hospital by pretending a snickers bar is a piece of poop.

Thank god my players are all sane. I couldn't deal with that poo poo.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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To try and actually post something positive, one of my newer players got an awesome scene in our last game that he really seemed to love. He plays a robot character, and one of the running jokes is that he doesn't have a soul. Also, as a ranger, he's got a robot puma that in one session killed an enemy I had dubbed the "King of Rats". So, another running joke that I played along with was that his puma was the new King of Rats. There was a whole running joke about Rat Nobility, the church of the Rat God, whether you can be the King of Rats if you don't have a soul, and what position of the nobility is accessible to one without a soul. So it was eventually decided on that the Puma had a soul, and was the King of Rats, and he didn't and was the Chancellor of the King of Rats.

So, fast forward a couple weeks, and they're in an underground temple. After killing the big bad evil guy, they explore around a bit. I had shaded over some areas behind big steel doors for them to find, break into, and loot. But in one of the rooms, he makes an offhand comment that the carving on the floor is indicative of the Rat Pope. I paused the game while we got food, and a quick job in GIMP gets me this:



They crack the door, and find a Rat Honor Guard leading to the Rat Pope. At this point, I'm fairly sure the party is going to follow the usual tactic of killing everything and looting the corpses. I've got some ideas about letting the Puma score the killing blow, and then becoming the God-Emperor of Rats, but in a surprising show of restraint they actually act on their best behavior. Robot dude even bows to him and kisses his tiny Rat Pope Ring. So I've got to pull out the big guns, I have the Rat Pope recoil from him, and announce that the Rat Pope can tell he doesn't have a soul. I'm already starting to get initiative rolls ready, when he busts off with a big speech about how he may not have a soul, but he still does the right thing, and a whole lot of other stuff I never would have expected from him.

I'm stunned, at this point. So I do the only thing I can think of. The Rat Pope kills one of the nearby rats, and grants his soul to the robot guy. Then makes him a Bishop of the Church of the Rat God. They let the rats leave, set up the mobile island base they won in combat as Rattican City, and the loving party paladin announces that he's considering either converting to the Church of the Rat God, or finding some ways to bring it together into his own church. Everyone levels up, session ends.

I've still got to come up with some nice boons/magic items for the robot character, but I was amazed at how well it all came together. I love my players.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Because as a lifetime of video games have taught us, having a soul is definitely not a requirement to be a chancellor.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Man, if he would have laughed it off right after that line and explained he was joking, it would basically be the best thing ever. But nope, instead it's the worst thing ever. Funny how that works.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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No, see, here's what you need to do. Play it really close to your hand, keep having him hear the voice, but don't give it any overtly evil ideas, or stuff like that. Keep at it, until the player figures out on his own that the voice is a demon which will try to corrupt him, and then tries to figure out a way to stop it, or shut it up. Allow him to succeed.

Then you reveal to the player that the voice actually was an inner part of himself. And now that it's gone, it can't keep the other voices quiet. Oh, hello there Nurgle, what's that you say? You're going to constantly, loudly, and graphically describe the many ways I should kill each of my teammates and befoul their corpses! Awesome! :unsmigghh:

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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I choose to believe it's more "That's a great idea, and I want to use it, so I can't let him see it!" :smug:

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Apologies if this is a long post, but my 13th Age players are literally The Best Thing ever, and I need to detail all of this.

So, they're in the big capital city, when they start receiving worrying reports that the church in charge might be seeking out this underground community of people and killing them off. Everyone is doing their own thing in town, the kind of jokey player says that his minotaur character destroys a bathroom. So, I tell him that it's now canon that he actually causes a sewer issue with his intestinal distress, and everyone laughs.

Later on, the rogue makes contact with the local thieves guild, and manages to ingratiate himself by recommending them a way to dispose of bodies. Why do they need to get rid of bodies? Well, the church has been hiring them to clean up after these killings, and their usual dumping place for the bodies is in the sewers.

So the group searches the last place the bodies were cleaned up from, and finds the ghost of the doorman who was killed. I've just got him there to let them talk him into the secret base of these guys, but they start chatting with the dude, then they start giving him some advice, 30 minutes of discussion later and a few great diplomacy rolls, and they've acquired a friend who is invisible and can float through walls. I can feel the rogue's palpable glee.

They get in touch with the underground dudes, hear the story out, find out (Gasp!) the church might be corrupt and just a tiny bit evil, and agree to help. With some assistance from the guys, they manage to successfully set up a sting operation, and kill off some of the guys sent to clean them out. They leave one guy alive, I have him give them a little information, and then... they start to talk to him again...

Thirty minutes later, they've acquired some very good information, and the assistance of a young kid who got roped into something big and just needs a better environment. They shoo him through a portal into the city they're constructing/fortifying, and prepare to go meet with his employer.

Cue some unlucky rolls in a bar, and they're sent on a wild goose chase through the sewers, which are still in terrible condition from the minotaur. They find their way into an underground arena, rough up the proprietor a bit, kill off all the animals, and then stumble into the merc's office. A bit of diplomacy later, and he has them battle some of his mercs as a test, to see if they've got the skills to really be worth the trouble. Successfully pinning the four dwarves in a cage/office match, he agrees to help them out, with a catch. He's not just going to gently caress over his own business, he built the mercs from the ground up and he knows if he just hands over information to them, he could be out of a job, or worse.

So, a little diplomacy later, and they come to an agreement. He'll sell the mercenary company to them, legally, and then go start up another one elsewhere. They'll then own the rights to the office, the merc's contracts, and more importantly, all the information for the contracts. Basically, I figure here's a way to get them the stuff they need, get this guy out of the picture, dent the rogues loving immense fortune, and maybe give them a building in town if they wanna use it.

The rogue then immediately stops me.

:v: "So, I now legally own this company, right?"
:what: "Yeah, basically. All the contracts are now legally yours."
:v: "And, I'm in pretty good with the thief's guild that cleans up the messes, right?"
:what: "... yeah?"
:v: "So, I contact the guy in charge of doing that, and make him a counter-offer. He tells the church that he cleans up the bodies they pay me to kill, I warn the guys who are the targets to skip town, and I pocket the profits"
:aaa: "Oh... crap"
Everyone else "Hey, sweet! We just set up an organized crime ring! For good!"

Then the paladin says (paraphrased slightly for length)

:v: "Hey, didn't that door over there lead to the underground arena?"
:what: "Yeah, it did..."
:v: "I contact the owner of the arena, and offer to buy it from him..."

Long story short, the bard and the paladin now own the underground arena, (with a few small catches) and are currently planning to import the various creatures they find in their travels to fight in it, and make even more money. They've set up a portal in the back of the mercenary's office which leads to their hidden town, so they can not only easily move between the two, but also funnel the underground railroad of refugees they're going to profit off of not killing to safety. They are going to drain the bad guys dry of funds, while saving the lives of those it targets, and pocket the profits in the process. For fun, they'll adventure around and capture dangerous monsters, then have them fight to the death while making even more money off of it. I have no idea how I am ever going to top this, I love these guys so much.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Actually, part of the agreement is that if they ever stop turning a profit with the arena, they lose it. Basically, the guy who used to own it now gets 30% of everything they make, without having to do anything. I meant it to function as an easy out, so if they get tired of it it doesn't hang around and sour the game, but it's also a nice little "We can't lose", because at any point all they have to do is close it down, and they lose ownership of it.

Also, like I said, they're sending all the "dead" people into their secret underground city, of which they have the only portal out. These guys cover their bases well, it's almost kind of frustrating sometimes trying to come up with a way to screw them over with their own actions. :v:

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

Anyone else in town run a gladatorial arena or streetfighting operation? The PCs are now cutting into their profits, so congratulations, now they have new enemies. Enemies who aren't gunning for the PCs because of ideology, they're doing it because of profit... which often makes for much uglier fights.

It was actually a minor plot point that the previous owner managed to run everyone else out of town, and is the only mercenary business in the area. As well, the previous owner of the Arena mentioned that there are so many rules, regulations, and red tape involved with the government that it's a difficult, not very profitable enterprise. That's not to say they might not meet these problems, but they're not a very big threat at the moment.

DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

The church has a new subcontractor; I wonder if they're ever going to ask, "hmm, what happened to our old subcontractor? And can we trust this new guy?"

The church doesn't actually know he's the new owner yet. The paladin is the one who notarized the contract, and they've been working through messengers and couriers. Pretty much the only people who know about the takeover are the Arena owner, (Who they're conspiring to "disappear") and the Thieves Guild. (Who aren't talking... yet)

DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

The caverns that the PCs are using to construct an underground city probably didn't just appear; who used it before the PCs? If excavation unearths something nasty, like undead or something, what happens then? Or if excavation uncovers something valuable, like say a buried hoard of treasure... think none of the citizens are going to be tempted to sell out the PCs?

Oh, and getting food and supplies into the underground city might be possible through the portal - but doing it without anyone noticing is another thing entirely. And hey, the people who're disappearing - any of them have friends and family? 'Cause some of them are going to be looking for the disappeared... and some of the disappeared will inevitably break the plan wide open by sneaking out to go find their mistress or something. Never fails.

They're not actually building this city. They found and activated the portal, and then saved the lives of everyone who was currently living there, so the city owes them. The city is an enclosed, self-sufficient underground village with only one way in or out, which they are currently populating with people who owe them their lives and captured weapons of war. Plus, these refugees they're sending through live in a closed, hidden community that nobody knows about, and will be going through with the express consent of everyone involved. Not to say these aren't good ideas, but again, my players have thought this through. These guys are very good at keeping things from blowing up in their faces.

DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

What I'm getting at here is this: the PCs are doing awesome things and you should let them be awesome. But always keep in mind that every new wrinkle the PCs come up with is another wrinkle you can use to challenge them - another thing they have to watch. Let them be awesome... but be on the lookout for the new opportunities their awesomeness gives you.

You say this like it isn't already my playbook? That is basically the footnote of this entire game, I just throw a few pieces out and let them put them together into solid gold, these dudes are amazing. Pretty much all my fun as a GM comes from finding ways to introduce new elements into things, have them create their own adventure, and occasionally trip up one of them with his own hubris. :v:

It's fun knowing that the only way to keep them from capturing and exploiting the enemies they fight is to make them so pissed off that they'll throw the bad guys into their own pit traps instead of taking them alive. I actually had the rogue, at one point, walk across the trap infested room instead of just throwing his daggers, because he wanted to see what kind of ridiculous bullshit these guys had set up. (I had a magic mirror in the corner blast him on top of the Ranger, who then threw him at the bad guy and scored a big hit.)

Edit: I feel I should mention that the game isn't just "Amassing a fortune in a fantasy setting", this is all going on at the same time the dudes are uncovering just, amazing poo poo.

There's a whole subtext of wizards being assholes, including the very real probability that numerous wizards are collecting and activating an entire race of powerful, ancient robots, which were built to go toe to toe with demons and have no qualms killing people.

The church is currently the biggest force for good in the world, directly and indirectly employs the PCs, and may or may not be working with, controlling, or controlled by an ancient group of assassins and holy hitmen.

The Empire, and the Archmage in particular, are flexing their power over the land for some unknown reason. The Lich King is a major plot point, and is probably involved with the aforementioned robot crap.

The Prince of Shadows has a rival church, which one of the PC's belongs to, which is either A: Evil and causing problems everywhere. B: Benign, and possibly an ally which they may later need. C: Fracturing, and in the ensuing civil war a target for the PC to win over, recruit, and then use to secure power and money.

Everywhere they go, the PCs keep running into strange poo poo, usually involved with robots that nobody seems to know anything about, but were a strong element of a previous age. One of the party members actually is one of these automatons, and better not even think about reading this next sentence, because he very probably will turn out to be the reason for all this weird stuff activating, and is looking like he'll come to realize/accept/decide he's a kind of robo-jesus, destined to save his people, give them souls, and induct them into the Church of the Rat God, of which is he currently a Bishop.

This is, maybe, half of the poo poo these guys get into. I have been responsible for probably 33% of it, and every other bit of it comes from them. I'm not kidding around when I say I probably have the best group ever. These guys are amazing.

Captain Bravo fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Oct 22, 2012

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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Not true! :v:

Captain Bravo posted:

(I had a magic mirror in the corner blast him on top of the Ranger, who then threw him at the bad guy and scored a big hit.)

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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No, you've got to remember, as big a direction as he sends the ping in, there's still only one direction that draws a straight line between the SSD and where the ping originates. If the observer is just slightly to the side of the SSD, he'll get the ping unjiggered, the SSD has to be directly between the observer and the beacon. Which means you'll need at least 12,623, and that's assume you just station them as close as you can get before the SSD can open fire. Every kilometer out you want to move your observers is going to exponentially increase that number.

Space is BIG

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

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...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
Yeah, I mean this stuff sounds amazing as all hell, but all I can imagine is you and the GM sitting at a table discussing the finer points of electromagnetic radiation, while the other party members play on a Wii or something. Does everyone get into the non-actiony discussions, or does your GM handle all the prep and stuff outside of the game, via email discussion or something?

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.

Effectronica posted:

They have to drop cloak to refuel and rearm, and that would create spikes of traffic when they arrived at port, though depending on the distribution of assets they'd possibly be difficult to pick out from regular traffic.

Random Number posted:

No way, they would freighter supplies to these things.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
Except all the teamsters just quit/died/were left behind. The only people still loyal to the empire are the few core elite on their remaining ships. You heard DCB, they're like Al Qaida with SSD's. You really think the people who stayed behind after Coruscant falls, the empire basically crumbles to pieces, and the emperor dies are going to sell out the last big weapons they've got left for a few bucks? Have you never seen fanatics before?

And besides, don't forget that these dudes are floating around with a planet-sized space station right there. Who needs a port when you can just dock with the Death Star II and put all those work crews who were there to use. The only thing they really need shipped in are things that a few dedicated, loyal crews can slip out from pretty much anywhere in the galaxy, without even having to break a sweat. You're thinking of it like a battleship in the pacific, when you should be thinking about it like a couple of privateers in the Caribbean. There's a hell of a lot of planets in the galaxy, dude.

Besides, I was mainly just taking offense at your amazing new idea that was already discussed three days ago. :v:

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
But here's the thing. Right now, the Empire has the best of all worlds in those contexts. They've got the tiny Al Qaida cell, they ditched pretty much all their planetary holdings. But they have the ships to make any minor forays completely ineffectual, because they can just use their massive, powerful, completely invisible SSD's to blow them to bits. So they don't have to cover the airfield, they just have to keep it moving. If Tommy Sheepfucker comes out of an asteroid field and sees the Death Star II floating there, he's not making it out alive.

With the Death Star II functioning as a mobile platform, all they need are things like food, fuel, and basic repair materials, any of which can be bought without suspicion at any of the billion ports in the galaxy. As long as they don't send a Lambda-class shuttle or an obvious Imperial Tanker to port, they can slip all the supplies they need from anywhere without making so much as a ripple. They don't need the support of a Real Navy because A) They are the real navy, and B) Space Is Big. In a stand-up fight, if the enemy brings anything less than their A+ game, they're going to be shredded. And if they do, all the bad guys have to do is run away.

But most of all, you're trying to compare modern military tactics to a space fantasy game. Sure, there's analogies that can be drawn, like the Bin Laden in Space one, and ports and ships and stuff. But when you start mentioning conventional armies and entrenched positions, you're losing sight of the fact that they have giant invisible spaceships that are incredibly powerful. That's the entire reason we're having this discussion, if these guys could just stopper up a few ports and fortify some defenses to solve this issue, there wouldn't even be a need. Conventional thinking is not applicable in this situation, you've got to think so far outside of the box, you can't even see the box anymore. The box is a dot.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
I've been itching for a chance to post this :v:



Yep, that's a Super Star Destroyer inside the Death Star's drydock. It's mentioned, somewhere, that not only did it have the space and requirements for maintenance, but they could actually be built in the drat thing too.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.

Tubgirl Cosplay posted:

Haha welp, is there anything in the SWEU that isn't completely over-the-top?

Looking forward to the story of the session where they finally after long effort track down the two invisi-destroyers that have been raiding the gently caress out of the shipping lines, only to ambush three. :v:

In the movies, the empire manages to construct two planet-sized space stations which can power one weapon that's able to blow up a planet. In the EU, they build half a dozen star destroyers armed with the same drat thing that can blow up an enemy ship from a light-year away. :v: :v: :v:

Edit: Also, I just realized we probably gave DCB a reason to hate us when his GM steals this idea:

Tubgirl Cosplay posted:

Looking forward to the story of the session where they finally after long effort track down the two invisi-destroyers that have been raiding the gently caress out of the shipping lines, only to ambush three. :v:

Because I know if I was his GM, and reading this thread, I would steal this idea so fast heads would spin.

Captain Bravo fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Oct 26, 2012

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
Booo! One of your players shows initiative and planning ahead, give them something! A tip, a quest hook, bad DM!

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Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
Goblin accepts the challange, says that the dish to prepare will be blargityblargtic. Player rolls to translate, GM says "You're not really familiar with this exact term, but the root words seem to be "human" and "meat". Cue existential crisis as the players have to decide between throwing the contest, or cooking up a villager.

Surprise twist at the end, blargityblargtic is the goblin word for human-style meatloaf. :v:

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