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Supercondescending
Jul 4, 2007

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You guys, I have a stalker.










I feed the anoles that live under the flower boxes outside my window all of the reject deformed beetles from my mealworm colony + the occasional mealworm, and they've started associating me with food. This one got sassy and found a way into the house and now will not leave. Some of these pictures are taken weeks apart. I see him daily, and he often turns up IN MY BED for no reason. For the first few weeks I put him outside whenever I saw him, but he would be back within hours. He climbs my pants leg. He randomly shows up on my desk and leers at me. He will not go away. It was winter and he was skinny so I held a mealworm in front of his face. He took it right out of my hand and has followed me around to be handfed mealworms ever since. :stare:

I don't know what's wrong with him or why he won't gently caress off (and I'm positive it's the same one, he's got specific lil markings) but he has recently discovered my geckos, and since they've got a nice warm tank full of delicious bugs, he thinks that's a pretty good place to live. There are gaps in the lid that allow him to easily get in, so I'm putting on a screen lid this weekend to keep him out, partially to keep him from getting eaten by my larger gecko (she really, really wants to eat him) and partially to keep him from giving my geckos parasites.

What I'm asking is, can I keep my weird stalker lizard? From what I've read most captive anoles are wild caught (and poorly cared for) anyway, and he clearly REALLY LIKES IT HERE and if he wants to be in my room being handed bugs instead of out in the wild happy world I figured I could maybe set up a tank for him to keep him from dying. :geno: Getting in bed with me at night and not having UV access is, I'm sure, not good for him but he will not stay outside. I tried not feeding him for a while to see if he'd leave but he just got skinny and it was sad.

If it's not too cost prohibitive/difficult/stupid/cruel to keep him, I'd kind of like to, but if The thing To Do is to just quit feeding him and keep sticking him back outside, I will. WHAT DO I DO GOONS. HE IS MY BOYFRIEND NOW.

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He's actually pretty average, we have ones around here that seriously reach 12 inches including tail. ill try to get pics of a couple of the really massive ones next time I see one.

He's definitely a dude, he likes to bob and puff his dewlap at me sometimes :3:

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Cowslips Warren posted:

I want a stalker anole!

Maybe one day I'll reset up that 55 gallon anole tank. One male, a half dozen females. It was kinda relaxing to watch.

See, I'm really torn on keeping him because all I can give him is a 10 gallon, and even that's a stretch- I'm living with my parent's until at least the summer to save money and I can only have what I can fit in my bedroom and it's already a squeeze with the geckos. Can he manage in a 10 gallon? Maybe set upright for more climbing room? Should I just not bother :ohdear:

This is how weird and chill he is. I got a 20gal long for my geckos today (well, for my larger one, I'm putting my smaller one in a plastic bin to grow out so it doesn't get bullied) because they've quickly outgrown the 10gal I started them in and they needed it. As I was taking down the 10gal, he just sat in his usual spot on top of the (very warm, which is why he likes it) fluorescent light on top of the tank even while getting moved around and jostled a ton.






I would think this would mean he was massively sick, but...he's really active, flings himself around the room all day, runs up to me for food if he sees me, and eats a few mealworms a day, drinks well, etc. He doesn't *act* sick. Could it be that he's just realized that inside= warmth + food and there's not actually something wrong with him, or is he definitely messed up? As long as I don't touch him he's very interested and unafraid of me, if I grab him to move him somewhere he usually bites me and is very, very self righteous about it. :3:

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I guess he COULD be but I doubt it, we have a huuuuuuuuuge population of anoles in our yard with 2 or 3 really fat old ones that are probably a foot long that most likely spawned the whole bunch, they all have identical features and a certain look to them and he looks like those anoles. There's about 10 of them that sit outside my window under my parent's flower boxes and wait for mealworms, and I'm pretty certain he's one of those. It stormed all day so the usual crowd is nowhere to be found, but as soon as it's a nice enough day to spot them I'll post pics of them.

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Oh that is so sad I want to hug my geckos now (I do not think they want to be hugged)

How do you even gently caress up leopard gecko care? Under the tank heater, moist hide, dry hide, calcium supplement, and bugs. I am a complete newb to geckos and mine are fat and angry and growing a million miles an hour. One of mine came dehydrated and skinny and with a freshly dropped tail and has still doubled in size in like a month, and they require like no effort. It's like you'd have to actively try to get one in a state as bad as that.

Then again, when I got mine, I did have someone tell me that they didn't need water. Because they are desert animals and get all of their required moisture from their food. :downs:

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Jul 4, 2007

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I just GIS'd 'fat tail gecko' and got furry porn.

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I was just doing some spot cleaning on my geckos' tank, and was vacuuming some dust out. When I started running the vacuum, my larger one (not naming them until I'm positive of their sexes blah) came running out of her(?) hide and started nudging the vacuum hose like maybe there was food there. I had to turn it off and move her so she wouldn't get sucked in and die.

I do not think they would survive in the wild. :saddowns:

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Malalol posted:

How are they doing? PICTURES

:iamafag: I'll get some pics today. My smaller one came really skinny and lethargic with a freshly dropped tail and was in a pretty bad way, and tbh there were some things I could have done better but I had literally no clue about geckos and had to scramble to read up on them- I'm glad they were just leos and not something complicated.

The larger one has been fine and piggish from day one. The smaller one was pretty weak and wouldn't eat at first. A vet visit + fecal determined that he had roundworms (of course!) so he had to be treated for that, and was also put on antibiotics for his dropped tail. Then he doubly didn't want to eat because he felt like poo poo, so I mashed up waxworms, (:gonk:) mixed them with a little baby food and calcium powder and wiped it on his nose a couple of times a day. After a couple of days of that I got him to take mealworms and he's been a good eater since. His tail has regenerated and hes gained a lot of weight.

Right now they're sharing a 20gal and are fine, but I'm prepared to separate them eventually if they start hassling each other, I still have no idea what their sexes are. Neither of them have apparent pores yet, but they're still v young so I dunno.

Pics in a lil bit. :3:

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geckossss


the little one looked like poo poo, these were from right after I got him :(





Bigger one was okay



Smaller one getting better, prob about 2 weeks after I got him (yeah, he's got retained shed on his toes in these pics, he was Bad At Shedding for the first few sheds he had and we had to work to get it all off even with access to a moist hide and lots of soaking. He's better at it now though.)





bigger-er (notice tail growth :3: )





Big fatty is Big Fatty


also now they have A Pretty Tank :swoon:




The newest pics of the little one are about a month old, I need to take more.

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Fluffy Bunnies posted:

I can't believe you glassbeadazzled their stuff. There won't be any issues with the glass getting too hot? Because it's awesome.

Nope, I have an under the tank heater and I tested it without the geckos in it for about 48 hours before adding them, I stuck some little felt pads to the bottom of it to lift it slightly off the bottom of the tank which seems to insulate it pretty well.

HOWEVER, they are completely freaked out by it and have stayed completely stressed all week and don't want eat/come out at all. I think the beads are too reflective and it confuses the hell out of them and they're not happy, so I'm going to have to take it down this weekend and I'm so mad because I spent like 5 hours bedazzling that thing and I love it :negative:

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One of my leos has figured out that I feed them at the same time every day and has started, at around 9:30ish pm (I usually feed them around 10,) waiting at the same spot with his face mashed against the glass for me to deliver food. It's just amazing to me that he's figured out Food Time to the point where he has it nailed down to about a half hour window as to when he can expect to be fed.

He also wants to exit his tank (on his own, I must not lift him out, he freaks) and be individually hand fed his mealworms while he sits there like a fatass. He does not want to be hand fed them in the tank, he must be sitting outside of it in the same spot he always sits in. He does not want them out of a dish, or on tongs, he wants them from my hand. Any breach in any of his policies results in a puffing, flailing, possibly squeaking gecko meltdown and he won't eat for like 2 or 3 days.

My other one doesn't give a gently caress, its just that one. Gecko drama.

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Ya'll, I think one of my geckos is blind. Someone returned him to Petsmart because he wouldn't eat, so he was up for adoption for free, so I was like okay gimme. That was last Wednesday. His tail was skinny but otherwise he looked pretty okay. He wouldn't eat at all though, and wouldn't react to absolutely any movement ever. His eyes seem sensitive because he blinks and licks them a ton, but they're clear and I can't see anything wrong with them visibly- though he does have one ruby snake-eye and one partial snake eye. (I think that's what it's called when leos have solid colored eyes? I don't loving know. geckos.)

So anyway he smells everything and tastes everything and moves very deliberately and couldn't fathom prey even when it was half an inch from his face- I'd been dabbing Repashy mixed with smashed mealworms on his nose and he'd been licking it off though. For some reason it didn't click that he probably couldn't loving see until today, and I held up some mealworms to him and touched him on the nose with them. He immediately started tasting them, and proceeded to voraciously eat 10 mealworms in like less than a minute, each offered on tongs. He also wasn't drinking and had ignored his water bowl (probably couldn't loving see it!!) so I held a little cap full of water up to his nose, and sure enough, he drank about 10000000000000 gallons of water. :(

I'm gonna take him to the vet sometime this week to see what they think but yeah, pretty sure he's blind. He's a baby, and it doesn't look like he's had a bunch of poor sheds or anything, and looks pretty healthy. I guess he probably hatched that way. I'll see what the vet says.

Anyway, I know there's a goon here that has a blind leo and wanted to see if there's something special I should be doing. I just now moved him to a small plastic bin with very few furnishings, and I guess I should keep from rearranging things often so he doesn't get lost. I can tong him his meals I guess if I need to, and guide him to his water a couple of times a day, that's fine. Is there like....anything else I need to do/keep in mind?

I really don't think he's just really derpy and bad at eating (one of my others is like that, she can strike at food thats not moving at all and miss about 5 times before getting it because she's an idiot :downs:) and based on how he gets around and everything I really think he's blind. Is this like...a thing? What could cause it? Is it common? Why do broken and retarded leopard geckos keep finding me? Should I feed him to Frankie?

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Cresteds were 50% off at Petco today and they had some pretty ones. Do not neeeeeeeeed :qq:

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Regardless, how is it that there's a large enough market for masses of monitors, snapping turtles, and giant snakes? That's frightening in its own right; those animals need crazy care that the average member of the public can't provide.

I have always wondered this myself, because until Petland and Petco moved in 2 or 3 years ago, the only chain pet store here was a Petsmart and then there were 5-10 mom and pops that sold everything imaginable. They usually had 10 and 20 gals full of hatchling burms and retics that sold for $20 a pop, and nile and savannah monitor hatchlings that sold for about the same. Also lots of (illegal) dwarf caimans. Most of them have gone out of business since the chain stores opened, but they were here throughout my childhood and I've always wondered what happened to everything they sold to whoever wanted it. My mom bought me a hatchling nile monitor from one ( :gonk: ) when I was a kid and he sat in a 10gal with a heat rock eating canned cat food until he died after about 6-8 months.

I remember that most of them used to tell people that the burms and retics they had would only get 8-10 feet and yes you can keep them in a 55 gal their whole lives.

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I was mildly annoyed until they suddenly dumped that poor fat burm in at the end, who proceeded to sink like a rock :(

I thought the laws for using animals in retarded TV stunts were pretty strict, how the heck?

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Greycious posted:

Regarding non-aquatic snakes being dumped in water is also that new show "Black out" or whatever it's called. I made my husband change the channel because I was too pissed. One of the women who picked up the snake also was swinging it around at arm's length because she didn't want to get near a snake. Felt so bad for it.

It just angers me knowing if they did it with some other non-aquatic animal that was cute and fluffy like kittens or even chinchillas the show would be shut down so fast.

I remember when they used to have people sit in tanks full of rats on fear factor, and you'd have 100+ adorable, friendly domestic rats just sitting there while some frantic woman kicked and flailed on top of them.

The best ones were the ones who would scream "OH MY GOD THEY'RE BITING ME" when they'd like, sniff or nibble their fingers. I have nerve damage from actual rat bites, I am pretty sure that if they were biting you, you would not still be in that tank! :allears:

No one ever got upset about those either because ~ew rats~

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So reptile goons

How much of a mistake would I be making if took in an unwanted 3 month old redtail boa baby

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Pile of Kittens posted:

ALL THE ANIMALS

Untrue. I would never own a Labrador.

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Bash Ironfist posted:

On the plus side, you're breeding a food source for it at the moment!

Yeah I mean I've already got food, until it gets too big for most reasonably sized rats but that'll be a while

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edit: On the con side, what if Moses got to it?

edit 2: Or Frankie farts on it?

Nothing we can do about Frankie farts, but Moses is already used to caged animals and knows he's gotta leave them alone indoors. If it escaped he'd prob eat it if he found it, but that's a risk with any caged animal ever.

The deal is a coworkers friend had a clutch he hatched a few months ago and this is the last baby out of 22 and no one wants it because it's a fairly ugly normal and he can't get it to sell. It's apparently healthy and eating well and fat and active, but I haven't seen it yet. He just wants to move it before next year so he's giving it away.

I've got a 20gal I can start it in and already have spare heaters and stuff from my geckos, and it wouldn't be hard to build or buy something for when he (actually I have no idea if its male or female) got bigger. I DUNNO. THINKING.

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Pile of Kittens posted:

This sounds like a much more entertaining way to cull. I thought they were mice? Who is it that breeds mice?

Me. But also rats when I feel like dicking around with dangerous marking genes :science:

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Yeah it has always freaked me out that Petco/Petsmart sells iguanas. "Oh no big deal, just buy this giant complicated and hormonal lizard for the low price of $19.99, great for christmas!!!!"


So anyway I got that redtail

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I can't give much advice as far as care goes, because I had my knight anole in high school and took HORRIBLE care of it in retrospect, but I just want to say that the Knight anole I had was hands down like the coolest lizard I'd ever met. He had loads of personality and could tell people apart- he would come to me for food if I called him, but would only come to me. :3: If I hosed up and called him without having a cricket for him, he would sulk and get grumpy and hiss and puff at me for a few days and it was so cool.

I gave him free range of my room (which was incredibly dumb in retrospect, uggggh what can I say I was like 15) because he was so big and tame and could always easily be found. He had a few basking spots set up with a few feed/water "stations" and for the most part he just chilled on top of my computer and waited for crickets.

I have always wanted another one, but they rarely come up around here and all the ones I've found have been wild caught adults who were like Tokay levels of vicious. :( I dunno if I somehow just got a weird one who was nice (he got hissy and bitey when people he didn't know handled him too much, but he was totally chill with anyone he was used to) but I would kill to find one young enough that maybe it could be handled into being chill like Emperor was.

Seeing pics of knight anoles always gives me fuzzies because of him. Best lizard. :3:

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Pew! Pew! posted:



There was a 20 gallon cube which contained: no water bowls, repti-carpet, a basking rock, a 50 watt bulb on top, and a king cobra and carpet python in the same container. With live rats and mice running all over the bottom.
I don't know what sort of thing I did to deserve such a horrible dream of bad snake keeping. :(



Someone I know recently told me about how their ball python lived with a rat and was "friends" with it for a whole month before it finally ate it and he thought this was the most ADORABLE thing in the world!!!! and I had a small aneurysm. :)

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Basic dumb question because I am a nub at everything but the most painfully basic when it comes to snakes and I don't want to gently caress up.

That redtail I got (such a nice, healthy, fat baby and not nippy at all, she struck at my dog once when he barged into the room uninvited but I don't blame her :3: ) refused her last feeding. She (I have no idea, I'm calling her a she until I figure it out) took a mouse with no problem on the 11th, and another on the 16th. On the 23rd she took a very small mouse (too small really, but it was one I needed to cull) and then Sunday refused a mouse. I was going to try her on a different one today and see if she'd take it, but then realized that she's about to shed- her eyes are blue and she's all itchy. It's normal for snakes to refuse meals when they're near/in shed, right? If so, how long should I wait before feeding her again?

Also, I keep getting conflicting info on how often to feed her. Her breeder said every 10 days was fine, but I've been reading on reptile forums that since I have her on mice and not rats, I should feed her every 6 or 7 days because mice are not as nutritious as rats. Then people bicker about it for 10 pages and I still don't know how often to feed her. I don't want her to grow too fast and screw her up or make her fat, but I don't want to undernourish her either.

She is about 4 months old now, and has been on prekilled since she hatched. She's one of those lazies that is all casual about food and doesn't even constrict anything except to maybe half-heartedly throw a coil over it. :3: She seems like she is going to be an easy snake, and I'm really liking her a LOT more than I thought I would.

Also: She has a big water basin that she can submerge in if she wants to soak (she also loves to poop there it is the best place to poop!!!) but do I need to give her anything else to help with her shed? She's got some slightly rough branches she can rub on if she needs to, but does she need anything else? A moist hide? I know this is all so basic but I want to do snake right and reptile forums confuse me because everyone just argues :ohdear:

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I wanna go to the Savannah one so bad but I can't justify a 4 hour drive to buy poo poo I don't need with money I really don't have bluhhhhhhhhhhgghghghg :qq:

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Big Centipede posted:

If you're 4 hours away, there's probably repticons that are closer. Are you in GA?

Yeah, I'm in columbus. I know there's that Atlanta one, which is like 2 hours away, but I think I already missed that one

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^^Speaking of savannahs, I have always thought monitors were cool as hell and while I know they're kinds a boring, I have always liked Savs. I know that with any monitor you're looking at a big enclosure and potentially a lot of upkeep, but just how much work are they? I'm def not planning on getting one (my rapidly growing redtail is enough giant reptile for me) but it's one of those "if I could have all of the animals" things I've always been curious about. It doesn't seem like a lot of people keep them.

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It is a wild animal leave it alone

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I just have my 3 leos and my redtail boa. I want so many more things though :qq:

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Can anyone confirm/deny whether it is still possible to get Chilean dwarf tegus in the US anymore? The very first reptile I ever owned was one (my parents bought me one at random in the early 90's when I was like...5, and he died a horrible death in a 10 gallon tank with a heat rock) and I just decided to look them up at random today and found almost no info available on them except for the fact that they are often confused with amievas and are no longer seen in the pet trade because Chile no longer exports animals.

I don't really want one or anything, I just wondered if anyone bred them or if they really don't exist in the US pet trade at all. Mine was pretty chill and sat on my shoulder all the time (he was probably dying of MBD in retrospect, it was not my fault I was 5 :smith: )

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I was given a baby beardie last week as a birthday present after whining about how I wanted one for like 2 or 3 years. I know the basics of beardie care just from looking them up a bunch during occasional "torture myself over animals I want" google safaris, but tbh I was surprised with him so I didn't really have time to prepare. He's from Petsmart (sorry goons :saddowns: ) but he seems healthy and is active and eating and pooping well. I set him up in a spare 20gal with a basking light, UVB bulb, and a UTH which keeps the warm end at about 95-100, and the cool end in the mid - upper 80s. I'm offering him as many small, dusted crickets as he wants twice a day, and have been keeping a dish of soaked pellets mixed with greens/fruit/veggies in there for him too (which he only takes maybe a bite or two of per day, but I've read that that's normal for babies.)

HOWEVER:

A couple of days ago I got him one of those big driftwood branch things to go near his basking spot, because that's what I've seen in most beardie setups. He was eating well before, but since I added it, he's done nothing but sit and climb on it and is mostly ignoring his crickets. I've talked him into taking a single bite of a dandelion, but it seems like all he wants to do now is Sit and Look At Things and I'm not sure if I should remove it to encourage him to eat more, or leave it alone and stop spazzing. Goons?

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Yeah, apparently beardies are delicate flowers as babies and have a lot of trouble with anything that has too hard of an exoskeleton. That's good to know though that he's probably just wigging out because A thing Changed. I'll start feeding him his buggies in a seperate bin too, that's a good idea. Chasing the "leftovers" around his tank twice a day in an attempt to round them up sucks.

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I'd also get rid of the under tank heater. The basking spot is more then adequate if you can get a spot to approximately 110F, and you don't have to worry about him getting cold at night. They're from the desert, and can tolerate to the low 60s at night, even in the summer.

Is it really necessary to get rid of the UTH? I tried several basking bulbs and none of them brought the temps up past 90 without the extra help from the UTH.

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Big Centipede posted:

There's nothing wrong with an UTH so long as the temps are correct.

Thanks, I was worried!

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It probably gets fed iceberg lettuce, crickets, and the occasional bit of apple for color. This is the default iguana diet.

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Bruc posted:

When I was a kid I had a pet painted turtle I kept in a wading pool during the summer on our deck, and one night a raccoon got a hold of him and ate both his back legs. We never even brought him to the vet and he ended up living for several more years.

When I was a kid I found a baby snapping turtle, about the size of a quarter, and kept it in a rubbermade bin full of water. That's all. No heat, added light, UVB, no way to even get out of the water. I fed it whatever meat scraps we had, whatever bugs I could catch, and SOMETIMES feeder goldfish when I could talk my parents into buying some. It grew to a little bigger than my hand and lived this way for 3 or 4 years, until I got old enough to realize I needed to release it. It's water was usually brown with turtle crap and in retrospect I have no idea how it survived. :smith:

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Beardies are awesome and I wish I'd gotten one sooner and just thought ya'll should know. Welp, see ya!

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Crickets are so nasty that I so wish I could bring myself to raise roaches, but I just can not stand them and wouldn't be able to touch them and just having a bin of them in the house would probably give me nightmares. :( I hate being such a weenie about roaches but I just can't do it oh god.

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Fluffy Bunnies posted:



I should try to find the picture where I just shoved my whole arm in the roach bin while holding an orange. You can't really see very well below my wrist. :angel:


NnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOO :(

I hate that I'm a baby about roaches. Literally the only creature in the animal kingdom that makes me go NOPE, NO. I blame it on the fact that when I was like 8, I was sleeping over at a friend's house, which was kinda dirty. I got up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom, and a roach (one of those giant loving flying ones oh god) fell from the ceiling, landed in front of me, and then RAN UP MY LEG. Life was never the same.

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^^^Aww poor Duncan. :(


Alright so I hate crickets so much that I have spent like the past day desensitizing myself to dubias as much as possible via the internet and I think I can handle it. My crickets won't stop eating each other no matter how much food I throw at them, and for every cricket my beardies actually manage to catch and eat, 1000000000000000000 of them jump or slip through cracks or-insert-stupid-thing-here and I'm tired of wasting crickets. (I try to feed in bins to prevent this, but my smaller beardie is super skittish and rarely feels comfortable eating outside of his tank and right now I'm just trying to get him to eat reliably which means feeding him in his tank which means escapees just keep HAPPENING.) Also they reek and just ugh.

I've just ordered 1,000 crickets, which will last a couple weeks, but once those are out I want to try dubias. I'll probably just order a batch of smallish nymphs and if they don't horrify me too badly, I'll get some adults so I can raise my own. Where is the best/most reliable/goon recommended/not stupidly expensive place to get them?

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ok frankies now lets get in formation

ZarathustraFollower posted:

If you don't mind paying for shipping I can send you as much/as few as you want. I've got a massive colony of them that I don't actually want. Weather would be the main factor, since it's high 80s most days. Normally roaches ship priority, but this weather might make express worth it. I'd just get input from other people here on shipping them (double box with a cold pack in the outer one would be my first go to)

You're awesome, thanks! I'll PM you when I get closer to doing it. First I have to convince my partner that we should totally breed roaches in our house. :gonk:


Speaking of UVB, I'm terrified of screwing up my bearded dragons' UVB lighting, with all the horror stories I've read. How do I make sure I 1)have the right kind of UVB bulb 2) I'm using it correctly 3.) I'm not melting their eyelids or whatever happens oh god

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