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ijustam posted:Who in the world would pay $40,000 for a Ford Focus ? You can replace that with almost any of these cars. But these are the people that are going to keep the segment moving in the right direction. If the Volt was 10k cheaper I'd have bought one in 2011. Edit: V 
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roomforthetuna posted:Yeah, my point is the replacement-required lifetime of a battery whose requirement is "still work a bit" is much much longer than the replacement-required lifetime of a battery whose requirement is "still have enough capacity to drive 70+ miles on it." I was just thinking it would be interesting to see something on hybrids as well.
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DJ Commie posted:You can buy a 50A socket from Home Depot and have it wired in easily enough. Yeah that sounds much cheaper/easier than just using the adapter for the car.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Missed this. Yeah, I'm not getting a Leaf until there's any ability to charge at work, and right now there's no outlets of any sort on the outside of the building (or if there are, they're in high traffic areas and I'd get written up for causing a tripping hazard). The lighting circuits are on a timer so the poles aren't live. I've been yakking with the guy in charge of actually operating the building and while it's not a trivial amount of work, it's something at least he's willing to do - if someone actually has a need. So we're at a chicken/egg scenario and the reason I haven't gone ahead and snagged a Leaf to push the issue is I know there's a significant chance someone higher up will get all stupid and decide to block it. So tell the guy you bought one but can't drive it to work until he installs an outlet.
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Mar 29, 2013 16:50
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Elephanthead posted:You never need to charge when you are close to home as you will charge when you are sleeping. The only time you need public charging is when you are going farther away from home. I can quick charge my leaf in 20 minutes and get 60 more highway miles out of it if there is an available QC where I need it. Chargers need to be on interstates and destinations like theme parks, stadiums and museums where you would drive 100 miles to get to them. Hotels would be nice also. Stores are kinda pointless unless it is an IKEA or mega mall where you might drive far since there are so few of them. If you live out of gas stations on a road trip you're throwing money away. I hit at least one grocery store every day when I'm on the road.
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Apr 13, 2013 15:59
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Elephanthead posted:So you buy gas in gallon jugs and pour them in? Do you have a veggie burner? This is about "fueling the car" not your goon gut. That's funny, you said it was useless to have charging stations at stores. gently caress off.
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grover posted:Or... the power companies can upgrade residential power distribution infrastructure. And the oil companies can cut their profit margins in half and we'll get cheap gas again. And Congress will pass a balanced budget without putting thousands on the streets, and Israel will make peace with the Muslim world and treat Palestinians like human beings and the F-35B will be cut to pay for the resumption of F-22 construction and Teraflex will give me a $5000 gift card.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Airplanes don't fall out of the sky, they glide rather well, for miles and miles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider If you're using a 1960s/70s/80s vintage cockpit with steam gauges...but good luck with a glass cockpit. Didn't the 787 also do away with hydraulic/pneumatics in a lot of subsystems as well?
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$100 for 200-300 miles is considerably above gasoline level. I drive one of the least aerodynamic vehicles in history (Wrangler) that gets worse mileage than most of whats out there, and it's about $60 for 350 miles. If your long trip is uncommon enough, it'll balance out in the big picture. But it's nowhere near "gasoline level" unless your other car is an '88 Countach.
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Jun 22, 2013 15:43
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Goddamn that's a sexy beast.
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Try this. And post the results, I'm curious. 
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Sep 18, 2013 02:04
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Aargh posted:I wonder if that will become a thing, root your car to get performance upgrades.
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Sep 20, 2013 01:59
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Our government had a program where you got paid to have your old car's engine destroyed as a way of promoting fuel efficiency. Nobody making these decisions gives a gently caress about people who enjoy cars or bikes.
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Sep 21, 2013 23:42
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Voltage posted:Holy poo poo, I almost can't believe this, The Cadillac ELR, (which was originally the beautiful Converj concept) literally a 2 door Chevy Volt with a nicer interior, is going to start at a pathologically insane $75,995. No drivetrain changes, still ~35 mile electric range. Early reports said it would be no more than $50-55K. Are the banking on people who just won't want to go through the hassle of buying a Model S, especially in somewhere like Texas where they can't directly sell them? I can't fathom a reason to buy this car at all, poo poo you could almost buy two volts. One word: Escalade.
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Oct 11, 2013 23:12
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This is an odd thing to recommend, but for something like that I'd sign up for Angie's List. I found an electrician with good reviews who also had a loving coupon that saved me about $130 off the total bill. I had no idea there were coupons on there. YMMV
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Oct 16, 2013 16:40
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TheWevel posted:I think what actually makes it news is that these are relatively new cars catching fire. If 3 2013-2014 Honda Accords caught fire it would get the same amount of coverage. They just happen to be Teslas, which made news for its wild stock prices. That's kind of the icing on the news cake. Nope. Wranglers were having a problem a couple of years ago with leaking ATF which was also superhot because there was no trans cooler up front. The fluid would land in the skid plate, where all sorts of dried grass and leaves were waiting to go up. The fix was to add a cooler and replace the skit plate with a bar, but this never made the news.
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Nov 8, 2013 17:48
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Not as cool to most AI posters I'm sure (including me), but apparently Bigfoot 20 is the world's first electric monster truck. I stumbled on that unexpectedly yesterday but don't recall seeing it in here.
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Nov 10, 2013 10:50
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Throw on a meter and an ID-card swipe or PIN access so they can deduct the real amount from my paycheck.
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Nov 15, 2013 17:47
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Edit: Nevermind.
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Nov 19, 2013 18:19
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ijustam posted:How do you measure the electricity drawn by the charger? Do you have a meter for that outlet or something? Buy a Kill-a-Watt or something.
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ToxicFrog posted:This, on the other hand, is the interior of a 2014 Leaf: That looks awesome. Too bad the exterior looks like halfway through their work, the design team just wandered away from their workplace and got captured and held by the Taliban for 5 years.
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Automotive Insanity › Vagina & EV anticipation / speculation / discussion electrothread.
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https://www.thingiverse.com That was hard.
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Jun 27, 2014 03:31
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I'm guessing about a 1/4 mile.
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Aug 18, 2014 17:22
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Is there a single hybrid SUV where fuel savings recoup the extra cost in less than 100,000 miles?
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It averaged over 60 mph, which ain't bad. Weather permitting, I guess.
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Oct 16, 2014 14:21
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Par for the course for a govt contractor.
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Mange Mite posted:The key is that each bay requires a lift or pit large and equipped enough to handle over half a ton of batteries, even before getting to the automation part. You're looking at some huge installation and maintenance costs, and far less versatile or future proof too Unlike underground fuel tanks at gas stations.
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I'm pretty sure someone raised the exact same argument the first time someone wanted to bury a massive gas tank. It's not like we don't have machines that do far more complicated tasks already. Yeah, it'll be pricey at first but you can bet Chevron or some other major company can get some scale pricing magic and get that ball rolling if they want to. I'm only seeing arguments that will prevent this from being an overnight development, not some sort of fatal flaw.
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Iblugu64 posted:Pretty sure you can order factory service manuals for pretty much anything from a dealer.
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Nidhg00670000 posted:I really don't understand why electric buses aren't more popular (around where I live, at least). Vehicles that the operator always knows when they leave and exactly how far they'll go each trip. Seems pretty perfect, no reason for range anxiety. According to one of my local transit authority officials (they're looking at phasing in a few as a test program) they cost 2-4x as much as other buses.
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Yes but in some states there some pretty heavy restrictions on their ability to actually SELL the cars. Like here in Utah, the SLC Tesla store can't actually sell any vehicles. They talk to people and I think do maintenance.
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Yeah, the dealership lobby is a lot more powerful than most people realize. Also, it exists, which most people probably don't realize. Probably 1/3 of the major dealerships in this state are owned by one of the richest families around here, the same folks that own the Jazz, a movie theater chain, raceway, a AAA baseball team, a tv station, etc. They've got some pull.
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Yeah.  Hopefully someone else will buy it, but I don't have a clue who would.
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Taima posted:Did you try testing a VW E-Golf? I was totally set on getting a Leaf, then test drove the E-Golf, and immediately realized that it was better than the Leaf in every way imaginable except I guess the infotainment. Interior miles better, stock feature package way better, insanely good audio system, drives significantly better, has a range of adaptive braking options that you set via a real stick, not a feminine knob thing (?)... I could go on. With the amount of electrical problems a normal VW has, the idea of an all-electric one is loving horrifying.
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Jul 27, 2015 06:54
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How many passengers can fit in there with it?
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Voltage posted:I for one, welcome our new electric liquid metal robot snake spine overlords. Nobody tell ADTRW.
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That car will still be there in a month.
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