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It does seem that Asus are just not ready for the volumes of the tablet market. In other news I'm legitimately amazed that my cheap, second hand, no warranty Acer A500 is still working flawlessly - Acer has such an appalling rep with PCs compared to Asus. I just hope the ICS update doesn't kill it.
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Ciabatta posted:Especially with an LTE tablet and data plan, I don't see why you'd need to pay for a separate phone, voice plan, and data plan. It would save a ton of money not to do that. However it works out being implemented you can bet it'll be set up so you can't save a ton of money. Carriers just do not want that.
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Mar 8, 2012 23:26
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Personally I'd look at the Acer A200. The areas where it skimps (compared to a more expensive Android tablet) are fairly insignificant and its certainly cheap.
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Mar 11, 2012 09:45
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Janin posted:Terry Pratchett Yes but a tablet is not a pair of boots and is not going to last you ten years under any circumstances no matter how much you spend The other options, especially the iPad 2, are still perfectly viable if not nearly as cool as the new iPad
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Mar 11, 2012 21:56
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My Linux Rig posted:No, a tablet could last more than 10 years. It's not the tablet that's going to wear out, it's you. There is no way any current tablet is going to be of any use that far down the line. Ten years is a long time for tech - go and check how usable a G4 Powerbook is today. You can expect an iPad 3 to last a year longer than an iPad 2 not any more than that.
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Mar 11, 2012 22:48
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My Linux Rig posted:A cheap tablet may still technically function and continue to function for years, but well, you probably won't be too happy with how it functions when you get it, not to mention a year or two done the line. This issue is you are including low end Android 4 tablets and the iPad 2 in the 'you probably won't be too happy with how it functions when you get it, not to mention a year or two done the line' category.
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Mar 11, 2012 23:28
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My Linux Rig posted:Yeah, I am. Do you really think someone is going to be very satisfied with their iPad 2 now compared to the iPad 3 when they only save $100? Yes, many people will be. To be honest you sound like one of those ridiculous camera gear whores like you get on certain other boards - oh noes my 5DII is useless now the 5DIII is out. Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:You're forgetting newer OS updates that creep in and slowly make older devices run a bit slower. You and I might be smart enough to research and avoid updating, but most people aren't like us. That's an Apple thing anyway - I don't think I've run into a single update that has made performance slower over on Android* * Yes I'm aware some manufacturers botched the updates of their skinned devices, that's another issue entirely. dissss fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Mar 12, 2012 |
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Mar 12, 2012 01:12
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theflyingexecutive posted:He said "computer" not "netbook"; why yes, the Nook is the top of the line 7" form factor Android-derivative tablet released by a major book retailer. See how that's a little disingenuous? But that isn't what the quoted post said at all - it said any sub $500 computer is going to be an outdated piece of poo poo which is ridiculous
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Mar 12, 2012 21:19
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theflyingexecutive posted:Yep, and that true statement includes all netbooks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a modern E-350 or E-450 netbook, they're perfectly fast enough for pretty much any type of non-gaming usage and even have surpsingly good battery life. Go and check out the netbook megathread in SH/SC and you'll see plenty of goons who are perfectly satisfied with netbooks.
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Mar 12, 2012 21:29
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Toady posted:The market has spoken: it doesn't. Some of it does. That is why Android tablets are selling in small to moderate numbers. Also why this thread exists.
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Mar 12, 2012 22:33
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:One of my main concerns about the price is that lowering costs might result in a lovely display running at 1024x600. If they can put a nice IPS panel at 1280x800 and a decent enough SoC to drive all those pixels then they're well on their way to a decent tablet. I agree about not sacrificing resolution, but to be quiet honest I'm fine with a non-IPS LCD if its going to keep the prices down significantly. e. Also leave the useless rear camera off. Even if its a good one (which it usually isn't) its an unecessary and stupid feature. dissss fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Mar 16, 2012 |
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Mar 16, 2012 22:41
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Endless Mike posted:No, if you want Ice Cream Sandwich, you have to buy the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1, which is basically the same but with a worse camera and different styling. Do we actually have that confirmed? I thought that model was in line for 4.0, it was the fat 10.1v that was abandoned.
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Mar 19, 2012 23:07
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The other 'thick with USB port' option is the Acer A200/A500. Both should be available incredibly cheaply second hand.
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Mar 25, 2012 22:15
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DeceasedHorse posted:That Acer tablet last looks interesting, good specs and it is actually priced cheaper than an ipad; I wonder what the catch is? The screen. I'll bet they're using the same panel as in my A500 which while perfectly usable isn't quite as good as the old iPad let alone the new one.
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Mar 28, 2012 00:05
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So apparently the ICS update for my A500 has slipped to the 17th of May (was supposed to be 'April') Seriously tempted to grab a cheap iPad 2 and forget about Android on the tablet side
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Apr 3, 2012 07:09
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Although I haven't had any real stability or hardware problems on the Acer A500 I'm typing this on I pretty much agree Unless you are really keen on Android, want a feature not available on iOS/iPad and don't mind putting up with some stuttering then you should just buy whatever iPad fits your price range best.
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Apr 8, 2012 04:57
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Peven Stan posted:Of course, the android community wants it both ways: People who bitch should install any variety of the roms to fix their problems, and then blame the problems on the roms when they turn out to be terrible. No one is saying that.
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Apr 8, 2012 08:48
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Super Aggro Crag posted:The $250 Tab 2 7.0 seems pretty tempting. I just find it weird that the CPU and camera specs are lower than the 7.0 Plus. Its just what Samsung does - they'll slap together a bunch of different combinations of parts depending on what they can get cheap supplies of. Have a look at all the various variants of the mid/high end Galaxy phone models - you get Exynos or TI cpus, AMOLED or LCD etc
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Apr 14, 2012 23:49
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nickhimself posted:This is horrible build quality. The restarting thing is, but the ports getting wonky after a while is normal with anything if you're not careful especially the headphone port.
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Apr 23, 2012 07:15
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Don Lapre posted:A headphone jack should not fail unless you are trying to support the device by the headphone jack. Maybe they shouldn't but in my experience they often do. Its easy to get the cable tangled up in something which causes a lot of stain on the port.
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Apr 24, 2012 06:49
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Henry Meowlins posted:I've never had a headphone jack fail on any device I've owned over the years, and I've had someone accidentally kick one in my laptop that snapped part of the plug inside. Once I got the broken plug out of the socket, everything is fine and dandy again. I suppose if it had been a cheap plastic laptop, then it probably would have done more damage, but the aluminum construction of my current machine pretty much precludes that. If your headphone cable was slightly stronger then the jack would have been the thing to give - exactly this happened to my flatmates MacBook Pro which is probably about as well built as any other laptop.
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Apr 25, 2012 00:54
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Henry Meowlins posted:Mine is also a MBP. My point is in your case the plug failed. If you used a different cable it could well have been the jack that gave first, just like in the case I mentioned. Really someone (Apple) needs to come up with a magsafe connector that can carry audio/data.
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Apr 25, 2012 06:19
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tecnocrat posted:Same here. I use my Iconia every day and have been waiting for the ICS push to happen. It's amazing how fast this thing runs now. Hasn't been pushed to mine yet and I'm getting impatient
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Apr 28, 2012 02:24
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tecnocrat posted:To use a phrase reserved for OS X upgrades, everything feels snappier. I'm not even getting the usual keyboard lag. It just flies. How is the browser? I hope its at least as good as my Nexus S (it better be, it does have a dual core CPU). Browser performance is my single biggest 3.2 A500 complaint.
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Apr 28, 2012 03:11
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ICS on the A500 is very nice indeed - big improvement especially in the browser. If you have one and haven't been pushed the OTA yet I recommend going over to XDA and grabbing the update.zip.
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May 1, 2012 10:14
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Has ICS been confirmed for the 7 Plus yet? Even if its been promised I wouldn't buy until you are certain it'll get the update.
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May 5, 2012 02:11
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Yeah the USB port on the a500 works fine for that. Note having a disk drive dangling from the tablet is very far from ideal from a usability standpoint - usually I'd copy the files temporarily into internal memory (or a microsd card) and unplug the external disk before viewing.
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May 8, 2012 05:45
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Most of this support discussion has been from an American perspective - It is worth noting that support on products will differ depending on what part of the world you are in, what consumer laws apply and where you buy the product from.
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May 12, 2012 22:32
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I think the 3G radio costing so much more is more of a 'because we can' thing than actual added costs. As for decontented tablets you could look at the Acer A500 vs the A200 - the A200 lost the rear camera, light sensor, GPS, some internal storage and metal body of the A500 and sold for about 1/2 to 2/3rds its price (at least initially before Tegra 2 became irrelevant)
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May 27, 2012 11:29
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randyest posted:Why is that normal and why/how would a thing get faster or less laggy / stuttery over time? Android tends to get stuttery when its syncing stuff or updating apps in the background. When you first put your Google account into a new Android device it syncs all kinds of stuff (including your Contacts, Calendar, Picasa web albums, Browser bookmarks etc) and a lot of the shipped apps will immediately require updating.
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Jun 2, 2012 04:56
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Don Lapre posted:Why is this acceptable, why should a user have to gently caress with performance options. No one is arguing what is and isn't acceptable, just what is happening and some possible things to try.
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Jun 2, 2012 05:00
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Which version of the Galaxy Tab are we talking about because Chrome requires ICS. I've found Chrome to be incredibly slow on Tegra 2 class hardware anyway although it is stable
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Jun 4, 2012 02:26
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Kazy posted:I still wouldn't recommend any ASUS tablet. If they had some sort of Advanced Replacement for RMA, I would, but the horror stories I've heard just make it a definite "no". You probably won't have an affected device, but if you do, you'd want a quick turnaround time. Depends on your local consumer laws I guess - where I am the retailer is responsible for either getting your device repaired or providing a replacement or refunding your money. Admittedly its still a pain in the arse to deal with lovely electronic store employees but here Apple is no different in that regard (Apple products are sold by third parties). Anyway I'm strongly considering a TF300 + dock just because my netbook (an Asus) has such a terrible screen compared to pretty much any tablet and its just jarring going back to it now i have a decent IPS display on my desktop.
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Jun 15, 2012 07:52
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ClubmanGT posted:Samsung: That price seems insane to me especially when the wifi only version is ~$560 from the same site.
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Octopode posted:It seems doubly odd for a device from Asus, since it doesn't make much sense for a device like the Transformer series not to support a landscape resolution. I'd hope that some of the tablet ICS > JB changes are targeted specifically at the 7" or smaller screen size. I have a 10" ICS tablet and I don't think the launcher and bottom bar changes make a lot of sense at that size, especially the lack of landscape home and horizontally centered soft buttons down in the bottom bar. Actually I'mm not even sure the phone style top notification shade is an improvement but I'd have to use it myself to decide on that one.
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Jun 30, 2012 00:02
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bull3964 posted:Some sort of image persistence is going to be unavoidable on IPS displays. We'll just have to see how bad it really is on the shipping units. Is this specific to very high dpi displays? I definitely haven't seen any image retention on my ips desktop monitors or television.
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Jul 3, 2012 23:14
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randyest posted:How so? Isn't the consensus that tablet-specific apps are unnecessary and even undesirable, since android just scales up phone apps so well, effectively making them universal and avoiding the need to pay for the same app twice (one for phone one for tablet?) Didn't some google exec flat out say as much? Where are you hearing about lots of developers getting into making tablet-customized apps? Android apps can have a tablet and phone version in the same apk, this is what is desirable. No one is saying scaled phone apps are the way to go , although I can see how they'd be less offensive at 7" than 10
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Jul 8, 2012 07:45
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:The largest improvement that can't be stated enough is how smooth everything is. I wonder how well it carries over to older, less powerful hardware? ICS was a massive smoothness upgrade on both my tablet (A500) and phone (Nexus S) so I'm going to be blown away if its anything like as big a jump again. Not that I expect the A500 to get JB officially of course.
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randyest posted:You are correct and I really wasn't trying to rehash that; I was lamenting the lack of android apps using the third method: an actual tablet specific app. You can have a tablet specific layout without needing a tablet specific app.
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Don Lapre posted:I think you have to change your dpi so it gives you tablet apps. From the Awful App theread Geekner posted:
So yeah you can try hacking the DPI but don't expect everything to work properly
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