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It's just weird. Apple, with the iPod, finally "got right" a lot of what was wrong with the fragmented and Engrish market of MP3 players and made it accessible and easy to use. They then continued on with the iPhone and iPad - they didn't coin just a catchphrase, but literally proved that their stuff Just Works. You tap on something, it registers. You swipe, it registers and doesn't lag. You want music? You just download it. You want apps? There's like 600,000 and growing. You don't want to choose between 9000 different variants of a product and just confuse yourself without doing mad homework? Just pick up the flavor of the year. You have problems? Go into an actual brick and mortar store and get it replaced by guys who know what they're doing. You don't live close to one? Call Apple Care and get an English speaking guy from the same country you're calling from and get help. Apple also has a good business practice where the customer is always right, and a very high reputation to uphold so they'll bend over backwards for their consumers Their products are so popular that random stores stock random accessories - you can't go into one mall without finding a slew of cases or cords. They are also so popular that the products will continue to be supported for years to come, and because it's so popular you know you're not buying into something that will phase out with it's own competitor in the same year. People keep recommending Apple because it's like recommending it to a friend - you want to say what's best and what will work the most. You wouldn't tell someone to buy an Android that requires root and the exclusion of a front facing camera or Netflix because of it. This thread is evidence enough that it's just the wild west with Android and no one knows what the gently caress they want/are doing
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2012 19:36 |
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 23:26 |
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zer0spunk posted:I can't tell if you're being ironic or not. Impressive.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2012 21:30 |
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When you buy any product from Apple, you also get a free personal setup where they'll open the box with you in store, give you a tour, then do things like set up your email and set you up with an app store account so when you leave the device is personalized for you. They also have free and paid classes in store where you can meet up with other people of the same skill level and learn more about what you just bought. All of these things add so much to the actual brand and help the millions of people that AREN'T us who don't read/care about the latest nightly that will fix your keyboard lag but break everything else. Or you know, stick to the tablet that has a SD card that doesn't sit flush with the device. Yeah, let's support that company - they really seem to give a poo poo. E: I should clarify that I'm not trolling - I'm simply wondering how seemingly smart people do not get how hacked together these tablets are and how you can have the wool pulled over your eyes for that long. First it was "gingerbread at CES will change everything!" then it was "ICS at CES will change everything!" Dr. Video Games 0050 fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Jan 28, 2012 |
# ¿ Jan 28, 2012 22:36 |
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zer0spunk posted:You act as if Apple is the only company in the history of capitalism to be truly altruistic or something really naive like that. Of course they're doing it for business, I'm not retarded. What I'm saying is that they're hitting all the right notes as a company, but at the same time pleasing their customers. What Android tablet is doing that at the moment?
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2012 22:44 |
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Install Gentoo posted:This only happens if there's an Apple store nearby and you go there instead of buying from any other place they're sold. Any Apple product can be bought from any other store and then brought to an Apple store for repairs or help. You can literally pick the Specialists brain, get his non-commissioned advice, buy it from Best Buy, but then if you have a problem you can go to Apple. Also AppleCare comes with everything automatically regardless of where you buy it. If you bought an iPad from Best Buy but wanted help, you could ask a Specialist for 10-20-50 minutes of his time to ask questions. Where else would you get that service? Live too far away? Call AppleCare.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2012 22:51 |
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zer0spunk posted:That would depend on who you're asking wouldn't it? I apologize, the numbers for that specific tablet are quite impressive, and no doubt it did a nice dent in the market. The rest of your post was quite mean though, don't know why you thought to throw that in.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2012 22:56 |
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Install Gentoo posted:That doesn't matter, because every store is not an Apple store. At my old place the nearest current Apple store was an hour drive away which is well beyond convenient. Then call Asus, then try Apple. See which one works better.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2012 23:00 |
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Also, wasn't the transformer the one that had keyboard lag in the year 2011? Something that was perfect in the 80's, 20+ years ago? The quality control or care for their products show with glaring errors like that. People's solution? Download another browser.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2012 23:07 |
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Install Gentoo posted:Yes you do seem to not know what the gently caress when you claim noone can help you with anything that isn't Apple and then act surprised when Geek Squad is mentioned? Geek Squad is run by a bunch of retards, sorry if this is news to you but it's universally true. They are crooks.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2012 23:16 |
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dissss posted:I haven't seen any support at all on Android. Then again on iOS the most common question about News Stand seems to be 'how do I hide it' so I don't know if they're making inroads either. News Stand might not be too helpful for Goons, but it's a really good feature that tons or people, myswlf and GF included use all the time.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2012 22:33 |
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Rohaq posted:What the gently caress is up with people making 5 minute long videos to demo something that takes 3 seconds?
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2012 04:45 |
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Butt Soup Barnes posted:Apparently people have been sliding a thin (like 1mm) piece of cardboard or plastic under the PCB where the antennas are in order to make a better connection to the pogo pins when the device is closed. So far people have been reporting good results.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2012 17:33 |
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ModestMuse posted:I NEVER would have thought that GPS on a wifi only tablet was such a loving big priority for people that they are literally destroying their $500 devices to possibly get to work. It was listed as a feature. Now instead of people getting angry at the company and demanding satisfaction, they are taking it up the poopshoot and trying to fix it by themselves, most likely voiding the warranty, and the company gets away with it. Try that with another company like Apple - they would be bending over backwards right now with press conferences and free poo poo to at least calm people down. But no, keep buying their products at full price and sitting on them, and stop asking us to speak poorly of them when this is a discussion forum based on what tablets are worth buying for people who potentially come in here for advice.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2012 18:09 |
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evilweasel posted:That it's likely to prompt price cuts on android tablets that need to compete on price now, at a minimum.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2012 22:30 |
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Splizwarf posted:For the same reason Hacker's Keyboard is so popular? Ie Splashtop, terminal emulators, SSH stuff. Also, how do you generate characters like é without an Alt key?
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2012 18:17 |
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My friends dad asked me yesterday about tablets because I have owned a couple. He already owned one, the famous Koby Kyros (I think that's the spelling). He turned the device on and then started telling me how much he disliked it and how slow it was to do anything. He wanted to use Maps a lot and wanted to see if I could help him find out how to do that, and also see if there's something else I'd recommend instead of his current tablet. I told him to test drive some tablets out at different retailers that have them on display, and actually use them like you would use them at home. Try to browse your favorite websites, use the mail application, download an app, and see if it would fit your lifestyle and be user friendly enough. Ask the salespeople questions, etc. At this point his tablet was finally on and ready to be used. This has been seriously like 5-7 minutes. No one buy this tablet. At the end, what I'm trying to say is that the constant flooding of tablets all holding the name "Android" much higher than their real names, so everything just becomes an "Android tablet" and the extreme fragmentation of quality between them has been and will continue to lower people's expectations for products coming out. There's too many. There's also too many bad ones. Waaay more bad ones than good ones, and I know there are good ones out there. There is no help for people getting into tablets for the first time - no one to guide them, no one to show them how to go from a mouse and keyboard interface and move to a 10 inch glass screen with multitouch gestures and all the other conventions that are flipped around? Buying an Android tablet is akin to buying a PC years ago. Way too much focus on what's really not important. This is why Apple is owning poo poo - they have a very welcoming atmosphere where you can come in and buy the best tablet on the market (you know what I mean) for half the price of a laptop and feel comfortable with you purchase because everything you need is in the store. Personally I think it would have been such healthier competition if Google paired up with a cell phone or just computer manufacturer and built their own ecosystem instead of also giving it out to anyone who wants to install lovely bloat ware and awful, awful phones. Dr. Video Games 0050 fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Mar 1, 2012 |
# ¿ Mar 1, 2012 22:01 |
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LastCaress posted:The space key on my transformer prime is already bent and a little broken, is there a way to buy replacement keys?
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2012 20:45 |
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I sold my wifi 3 G iPad 1 16GB for $250. That's the going rate here. For the app store, customer service and stability id recommend that. Obviously if you only want android then don't listen.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2012 22:51 |
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sethsez posted:I'm not understanding why most of this matters for a device a person is buying almost exclusively for web browsing and reading. Those are things that generally work just fine out of the box these days, unlike the days of the Coby Kyros and other assorted crap. They're not the best, but they'll do those basic tasks just fine.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2012 01:09 |
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Glimm posted:I've seen/heard a lot of complaints about the Transformer Prime on the internet, but the same can be said of the new iPad with its overheating and signal issues. Personally I use both fairly regularly at work and because I prefer Android in general (and the widescreen format, I watch lots of video) I would recommend the Prime over the iPad. So, no, definitely not in "just get an iPad" territory, but yeah there are still horror stories in this thread.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2012 05:25 |
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Companies are already switching to iPads as a very cheap POS alternative. I'm sure Android will too with their tablets.
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2012 22:06 |
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Glimm posted:I've had glitchy experiences on both platforms, the most annoying (to me) on iOS (iTunes randomly wiping devices and removing their backups). So I guess I'd recommend your mom not use any tablet device?
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# ¿ May 3, 2012 01:18 |
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SeaWolf posted:Fair enough, yes i did pay shipping. But in my experience when i usually have a problem and need warranty work the companies I've dealt with usually figure out a way to weasel out of taking responsibility for fixing it and usually tell me to get hosed. So yeah my expectations are very low. This isn't fanboy speak, this is just a dude on the internet saying that maybe you should not feed these guys any more money until they improve the customer experience. This in turn will improve product craftsmanship and weed out loser manufacturers that don't give two shits about their customers. Continue lapping up their poo poo and nothing good will come out of it except other companies excelling at an even more rapid pace, gobbling up the competition. Competition is good. We need it!
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# ¿ May 12, 2012 18:37 |
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kmcormick9 posted:With the exception of a seagate HDD that bricked itself, I've had to pay for 1 way shipping on every item I've ever done a warranty repair on so I wouldn't consider that alone to be lovely customer service.
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# ¿ May 12, 2012 20:28 |
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kmcormick9 posted:Did you know that even with an $80 AppleCare plan, the fruit stand will refuse to replace the battery that won't hold a charge on a 16 month old iPhone? Guess how I found out?
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# ¿ May 12, 2012 20:59 |
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I must admit that I thought this was the "Recommend Me A Tablet" thread and not the dedicated Android one. I would recommend you speaking to a manager if you think you got scammed though dude. And to the dude above, Apple pays shipping both ways if you're under AppleCare
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# ¿ May 12, 2012 21:22 |
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Install Gentoo posted:It's pretty obvious that he is.
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# ¿ May 12, 2012 22:00 |
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I know people might think front or rear facing cameras make no sense, and I was in that camp a couple of years ago, but now with friends around the world, Skype is such an awesome way to stay in contact, and on an iPad means its as light as possible to carry around and show stuff off.
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# ¿ May 27, 2012 22:49 |
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a shameful boehner posted:Anecdotal sure, but I've had zero problems with the TF300 and it's one of the best devices I've ever used. No dust - some very minor lightbleed in the lower right corner - and otherwise it's exactly what I wanted in a tablet. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2012 23:54 |
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revolther posted:Not trying to go totally off-topic, it's a new use of Android OS(to me), but saw this on Newegg the other day, whilst searching for networked HDD's and can't help but think it's a little brilliant. Reviews say ICS firmware is already available, 3x USB 2.0, hdmi out up to 1080p, all sorts of normal video codecs supported, HTML5 & Flash10 support through Chrome/Dolphin HD, PlayMarket out the box with reports of just about equal app parity as other android devices.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2012 21:53 |
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bull3964 posted:And then the person that delivers the package can choose to completely ignore that requirement and toss the package anywhere. I don't know - I have only seen people bitch about shipping companies online. I never had a problem nor heard about it in day to day life.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2012 02:52 |
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Do people actually call them Nookies?
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2012 21:37 |
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Thermopyle posted:I'm considering a permaban for using this horror of a word. It also reminds me of Limp Bizkit so that kinda sucks
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2012 14:41 |
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Rohaq posted:So if I logged into my Netflix account (set up in the UK), I could access US content? That would be... nice.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2012 04:22 |
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Polo-Rican posted:This is true, but it is also important to know the difference between something "being broken" and something "having an imperfection so small that it takes multiple attempts to even realize it exists, and is also 100% solvable by putting a book on it while you sleep." There should be no excuse for a multiple hundred dollar device requiring you to put a book on it while you sleep to fix its problem that could potentially get bigger and worse and then be outside your warranty period. Also aren't you guys worried about dust and poo poo getting under?
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2012 22:04 |
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bull3964 posted:Screen is bonded to the glass so that really can't happen.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2012 22:23 |
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 23:26 |
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IT Guy posted:Most of your arguments assume the user is a mouth breather. Not everything has to be spoon fed with giant arrows saying "click this you loving moron".
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2012 13:32 |