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Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

SlayVus posted:

So I know you have to let the Prime charge for 8 hours, according to the instructions on first time use, but can you use it while it is charging? Or would it better to just let it sit there and charge?

In every case where a new device says this, it's ok to use it during that time. The manufacturer just wants to make sure you actually get it charged at least once.

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Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
Or you could either resite the router itself, or buy a wifi extender unit. Instead of relying on slow bluetooth.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

cultureulterior posted:

Ipad 2: 1024x768
8.08" × 6.06" (20.52cm × 15.39cm) = 131.96 PPI

Thrive 7: 1280x800
5.94" × 3.71" (15.08cm × 9.42cm) = 215.63 PPI

Not a huge difference. Now, number of pixels, that's different. I'm pretty happy with my 7 for reading comics, however. Read the entire run of Miracleman on it, and it was fine.

There, I fixed it for things that actually exist.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

eric posted:

It already exists; you just can't buy for a few months. Although it's going to sell out so quickly you may not be able to buy it for a while after launch.

It's stupid to claim features that Apple hasn't claimed yet.

Particularly 2048x1536 which was also "supposed to be" on the iPad 2.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Shorter Than Some posted:

At the time the iPad 2 was rumoured it would have been prohibitively expensive, now tablets are being announced approaching that resolution anyway, and the jump from 1920x1080 to 2048x1536 seems pretty close to the jump from 640x480 to 960x640.
It really isn't that unlikely that the iPad will have it since super high res displays have already been latched onto as great marketing features by apple.

Are there even any 1920x1080 tablets actually out?

(ps the iphone was 480x320 to 960x640, not 640x480 to 960x640. It's quadruple the pixel count, like 2048x1536 from 1024x768 would be, not double as 640x480 to 960x640 would be)

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Shorter Than Some posted:

No but neither is the iPad 3, they'l be out by the time it is.


I was referring to the common resolution of other phones at the time with 640x480, not the essentialy 3 year old resolution of the previous iPhone.

Phones weren't 640x480. They were generally 800x480/854x480 or 480x320, 4:3 phones were uncommon outside blackberries and those weren't 640x480 either.

And especially since you said 1024x768 to 2048x1536 is the same jump as 640x480 to 960x640 - it isn't, the first is 4x pixels, the second is 2x pixels.

Nintendo Kid fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Jan 28, 2012

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:

When you buy any product from Apple, :words:

This only happens if there's an Apple store nearby and you go there instead of buying from any other place they're sold.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:

Any Apple product can be bought from any other store and then brought to an Apple store for repairs or help. You can literally pick the Specialists brain, get his non-commissioned advice, buy it from Best Buy, but then if you have a problem you can go to Apple. Also AppleCare comes with everything automatically regardless of where you buy it.

If you bought an iPad from Best Buy but wanted help, you could ask a Specialist for 10-20-50 minutes of his time to ask questions. Where else would you get that service? Live too far away? Call AppleCare.

That doesn't matter, because every store is not an Apple store. At my old place the nearest current Apple store was an hour drive away which is well beyond convenient.

Also tech support hotlines have existed for decades.

You even bring up Best Buy which has a support department for everything they sell: Geek Squad.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:

You're comparing Geek Squad to Apple so I don't know what the gently caress. Unless you want to pay $100 to install McAfee.

Then call Asus, then try Apple. See which one works better.

Yes you do seem to not know what the gently caress when you claim noone can help you with anything that isn't Apple and then act surprised when Geek Squad is mentioned?

The genius bar was absolutely useless for me when my old Macbook Pro started randomly rebooting - they said it needed to be sent away for a week to get repaired which is basically the same thing Geek Squad does.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:

Apple doesn't send their devices out of the store

So you're claiming they lied to me?

FunOne posted:

What is the recommended PDF reader for the tablet? The official Adobe one closes and restarts PDFs on the first page when I task switch which is just loving stupid.

I use the one included in Quickoffice.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Toady posted:

"That doesn't take into account if you enjoy loving around with your toys. When I spent four hours rooting, installing custom ROMs, and tweaking my phone, I did it because it was fun."

That he for some reason wanted to do it doesn't mean he needed to.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Toady posted:

My point is that he chose to. He and others are part of a demographic of "tweakers" that Android caters to.

That's not a sensical point tho. He's telling you himself that only freaks like him actually do 4 hours of tweaking when they get the device.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Toady posted:

Android's demographic is split between budget buyers and these "freaks".

Well that's not true so maybe you should step out, get some fresh air? It's also completely irrelevant.

Nintendo Kid fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jan 29, 2012

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

My Linux Rig posted:

If anything, don't recommend some cheap Android phone by saying "tinkering" will save it, as it is the biggest waste of time.

Nothing of value really ever comes out of that except for a lesson in determining a product's proper value proposition and why you shouldn't buy terrible devices.

I seriously don't like the whole rooting community cause it seems to instill in people the idea that a lovely device can be fixed by simply rooting it and installing some hacked up rom.

Believe it or not lots of people here actually tell people not to get those kinds! Like I keep telling people "you really shouldn't get a touchpad or nook color". For some reason a lot of them get angry about it but that's not my problem.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Matlock posted:

I'm really confused at the Acer A200's positioning. The screen looks nice, they bumped it from 1GHZ to 1.2GHZ, the back is a nice leathery vinyl texture, and there's a promise of ICS in February.

On the other hand, it has a 2MP webcam and no camera otherwise. Is the market starting to move away from rear cameras on tablets?

My Transformer has a decent enough rear camera but frankly I've no use for it at that size. I took a couple pictures with it for the novelty of it all but that's it.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

angrytech posted:

2. What's the biggest, heaviest, most battery-draininest tablet on the market today?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X1NyZRX_Tk

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

hotsauce posted:

Yes with a Q2 rumor for release

So absolutely nothing known about it other than rumors makes it a buy for you?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Uthor posted:

It might be, but it's relatively new. The first time I lost all the files was the very first time I used it. I couldn't get it connected, then once I did, the files were gone.

That definitely sounds like a defective card to me.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

got dat wmd posted:

Also to clarify some other wrong information, styluses are mostly designed for art related programs on the iPad, not as a means of direct input functionality.

That's basically the same as for the wacom-type enabled tablets.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Crackbone posted:

Asus actually makes some of the best mobos and video cards in the computer parts world right now. The original Transformer was probably a pretty nice piece of hardware too.

My original transformer is certainly reliable as hell and the only thing "wrong" with it is the edges are slightly beat up cause I'm a klutz who leaves it on tables and accidentally knocks it on to the floor.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

dissss posted:

As asked this before but didn't get a response - does any current tablet have decent wifi reception?

My Transformer (the regular one) gets about the same reception as my old netbook did. There's a guy who lives across the street and leaves his wifi completely open, and I can connect like however far that distance is from inside.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

Why does a keyboard for an Android device have an "Alt" key?

e: does holding down the home key do anything?

The keyboard is pretty much an ASUS netbook keyboard with some keys relabeled, that's why.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Splizwarf posted:

That was a stupid thing for me to say anyway because the other end of the cable is standard USB. :hurr:

What is the upshot to PDMI and Apple's dock then? I thought I'd read about this but can't search it up at work.

They have audio/video outs so you can have a dock that plays stuff through them.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Tatsujin posted:

I updated my wife's TF to ICS, now it's incredibly slow and the market thinks half the apps aren't installed when they are :sigh:

I had the same thing happen, for some reason it didn't list Google +, Amazon Kindle and Dropbox on My Apps anymore, but it worked when I went to their market pages and chose to install again or update.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
I think anyone who believes Windows 8 ARM tablets are going to go above even Playbook marketshare are deluded, let alone those who think they'll overtake Android. And the ones who think x86 Windows 8 tablets will are clinically insane.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
Well if it's not able to access to Google servers it is probably also having trouble accessing other servers. You should consider the graying out to mean your connection is having problems in general, even though it only directly indicates whether you can reach google stuff.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Don Lapre posted:

I imagine there will be lots of unweidly large tablets meant to go into keyboard docks. Just wait, guaranteed there is going to be a size race and we are going to see 21" tablets.

I've always believed the real problem with the HP HDX was the lack of ability to remove the screen and use it by itself.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Ciabatta posted:

Soon it will be "pocketable personal computing device" vs. "non-pocketable personal computing device," and archaic terms like "telephone" will fade away.

Yeah no, you see, normal people would prefer not to say "pocketable personal computing device" when they can just say "phone" or maybe "mobile" or "cell". Not to mention that the other thing would cover pretty much every other kind of computer from gamerfreak giant towers to just larger phones that dont fit in every pocket.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

My Linux Rig posted:


Again, if $500 is too much for a tablet, then maybe you should just think for a minute about why you really want a tablet.

Indeed, most people have no use for a tablet that costs more than what they probably paid for their Target sale HDTV or Best Buy laptop special.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

My Linux Rig posted:

Right, thanks for agreeing with my point.

A cheap tablet may still technically function and continue to function for years, but well, you probably won't be too happy with how it functions when you get it, not to mention a year or two done the line.

This is why I'm saying spend a bit more to get a better tablet: in the end you'll probably keep it longer and get better use out of it.

Agreed, everyone should pay more for their tablets than they probably did for their actual computers or monitors.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Main Paineframe posted:

If you pay less than $500 for a computer, you're going to get an absolute piece of poo poo that was already outdated when it hit the shelves, and I don't see why it should be any different for a tablet.

So according to you, the computers most people buy are already outdated? Look how stupid that is.

http://blog.laptopmag.com/average-windows-laptop-costs-456-down-14-percent-in-24-months

Desktop systems are even cheaper.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Main Paineframe posted:

I don't see anything wrong with saying that loads and loads of people buy the absolute cheapest laptop on the market, no matter how lovely they might be. Computers are an absolute necessity in first-world countries, and that means that the tens of millions of poor people in the US need a computer, even if it's the cheapest shitbox available.

Tablets, on the other hand, aren't really so important that you need to buy one no matter what even if you can only afford the cheapest Coby Kyro paperweights.

So you're not getting it that if people don't want to pay a full $500 for a laptop, they also probably don't won't to pay a full $500 for a tablet that is less useful.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

illcendiary posted:

There is, however, a difference in how these prices scale. As far as I can tell, the difference between a 5D Mark II and III (now, not at the time of their release) is about $1300 on Amazon. I can see that making a difference. Telling someone to buy an iPad 2 ($399 new, $349 refurb that most people aren't aware of ) is pretty dumb when the difference is a measly $100. If $100 is a major deciding factor in your decision, what are you doing buying a tablet in the first place?

Do you really not understand how stupid this sounds? Like really?

poo poo why not say you're stupid if you don't get a maxed out 3G one?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
My original Transformer runs ICS fine.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Duckman2008 posted:

Mine was a rooted stock ROM, I wiped it twice and it was still laggy. My personal experience with it ended on a sour note. I sold it and got a Touchpad, and the Touchpad running CM9 just runs way better.

In the end, if people are happy, great, but right now Android Tablets in general just are hit or miss, and the software support is just not there or even on the horizon.


It should be sure. Whether it was Asus rushing the update or the hardware, I really couldn't tell you. What I can tell you is it ran mostly fine on Honeycomb, and for me ran terribly on ICS.

I never had root on my transformer, besides a few days when I first got it. I've also not had problems with it. I think these are probably connected.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

nickhimself posted:

What's app compatibility like on the kindle fire assuming I root and side load Google play? Will I be able to play most if not all of my purchases?

Most applications that would work on an older phone running 2.2 (even though the Fire runs a version of 2.3, it's not got all the features) will work on a Fire.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

nickhimself posted:

Good enough. I really want to use it as a reader but I know myself. I'll be playing stupid games more than reading.

Oh, and, any application that requires camera, microphone, GPS or cell service, doesn't work for the obvious reason that the device doesn't have those.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Peven Stan posted:

Nothing worked right, and one of the draws of the device-- netflix, would artifact and glitch every 30 seconds-1 minute of playback.

Random reboots, laggy software (can't even view PDFs for fucks sake)

Hmm I wonder why that would hap-

Peven Stan posted:

I have root access and some kind of riced out custom ROM (Revolver 3.11) on my tablet, plus a hilarious 50% overlock (to 1.5 ghz).

Oh, that's why. Unstable overclocked random riced out custom ROM has glitches and lags and random reboots? Shocked I say.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
If they're going to be mostly fixed in place, they don't really need to have batteries or anything, so they don't need to be proper tablets.

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Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

TildeATH posted:

I'm also curious as to what your "or anything" is besides batteries even if they were fixed in place, or is that just a sloppy attempt to pretend that you have more of an argument?

A digital sign doesn't need all the power of your average tablet to display stuff, or even to be able to accept touchscreen input. Similarly kiosks and points of sale and such would do much better having a display hooked up to a computer, rather than just a tablet. Points of sale especially, since you ain't building a money drawer into a tablet unless you're crazy.

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