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Lemonus posted:I mean, how much money per club are we talking about? At OUSA it seems like they have a reasonably under control system of like each club gets $1000 for purposes they have to account for at least to some passable level and the rest of the money is dependent on specific grants for specific stuff. Don't really know the specific details. I seem to recall a club somewhere along the lines of "$50 club" where they got the minimum amount of people required for a club (say, ten people) to join, then split the funding cheque of $500 between them and disbanded the group.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2012 09:43 |
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 23:38 |
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So here is a thing; the US doesn't like our already flawed copyright shits and wants to make them more retarded.
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2012 21:56 |
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Torka posted:Oh he understands, he just doesn't care. At least no-one gets overly anti-Semitic about him. I can imagine if this was in the US his lineage would be brought up a lot more. We just think he's a dick because of his personality.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2012 22:00 |
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Torka posted:He's Jewish? That's honestly the first time I've ever seen it mentioned. He's jew-ish. His mother was an immigrant Austrian Jew, but he is not religiously Jewish (see what I did there?). I feel slightly anti-semitic just for typing jew and I'm not sure if it should be capitalised or not.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2012 22:24 |
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Torka posted:Yeah I'm fine with saying Jewish but "Jew" makes me all for some reason. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5t96DhBf4I
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2012 22:31 |
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sanchez posted:Are you kidding? Have not not seen how the US operates with regards to Israel? There are many race problems in this country but antisemitism is absolutely not one of them. Speaking for myself here, but I would think that most of our (NZ's) exposure to anti-semitism post-WWII comes from American media (movie industry, KKK, Mel Gibson, jew bankers etc). Because we don't have "enclaves" of Jewish people (either ethnically or religiously) here they aren't really visible group, and hence not a target here at all. Anti-semitism may not be a large issue in the USA but it certainly seems to be more prevalent than it is in New Zealand.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2012 01:07 |
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sanchez posted:You should do some research, this is a good start Oh, so everyone in the US loves Jewish people and supports fully the Israeli state? Good to know. 50 million people are members of those churches. The combined church leadership has decided to support that film. Assuming that every single person of those 50 million agrees 100% with every decision the church makes seems a bit of a stretch. Also, 50 million represents roughly 1/6th of the total US population. Appealing to the authority an institution as nebulous as "the Evangelical christian church in the US" as a bastion of good sense also seems foolhardy given their image in the rest of the world as utterly intolerant people. A cynic might even think that given some of their previous behaviours that they want anyone who doesn't share their faith to get out of the country all together. There are a few key phrases you may have missed from my previous posts: seems to be more prevalent, may not be a large issue, American media. I was not seeking to imply that everyone in the US is a jew-hating Aryan; just that there are elements within that culture that appear bigoted against them which results in them being the target of 12% of reported hate crimes in 2007, and 37% of hatecrimes in New York state in 2009. New Zealand has many incredibly racist people, but proportionately very little of that is target towards Jewish peoples. Big Bad Beetleborg fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Feb 3, 2012 |
# ¿ Feb 3, 2012 02:17 |
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sanchez posted:I was responding to "At least no-one gets overly anti-Semitic about him. I can imagine if this was in the US his lineage would be brought up a lot more." I disagree. I think that if John Key was a member of a race or religion that was subject to more bigotry in New Zealand (asians, immigrants, maori, muslims) it would almost certainly not be uncommon to hear charged invective being used about him in conversation. Obama certainly gets comments on his race and heritage, although most people are polite enough not to scream about it in the street. The only way he escapes is because NZ society is mostly "white" and we are content not to look too hard for ways to divide that group up along new lines - after all, we might learn something about people if we can't divide them into easily labelled groups. The subsection of the population that targets Jewish people for crime will almost certainly bring up Bloomberg's race/religion. Just because they're bug gently caress crazy doesn't mean they don't count as people. e: 1 is more than 0. Big Bad Beetleborg fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Feb 3, 2012 |
# ¿ Feb 3, 2012 03:08 |
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Lemonus posted:Im a citizen and Ive been hear 14 years, don't patronize me about my country. I think you'll find we spell it "patronise" here, champ. e: VVV I was gonna mention that, but it dilutes the joke somewhat. Big Bad Beetleborg fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Feb 4, 2012 |
# ¿ Feb 4, 2012 08:04 |
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miss_chaos posted:Not to mention the racial slurs were absolutely disgusting so the protestors aren't exactly winning people over to their cause like that. Sharples please. Any time something happens at Waitangi it is almost always fringe elements no one wants anything to do with, and it only hurts people with legitimate grievances because they get tarred with the same brush.
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2012 20:46 |
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Was there another option other than Anderton in the last election? At least if people had voted for him they wouldn't have elected a complete oval office. Most of Anderton's history is outside my current knowledge, but he seems an alright sort who does care about something other than himself and his wife looking like a schoolboy.
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2012 19:10 |
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door.jar posted:And guess who got given a cushy job as the head of Westpac Private Bank? Simon Power, Justice Minister of the previous Key government. Simon Power went in to bat for my grandfather when Ministry of Defense or ACC or whoever didn't want to pay for a new hip (his old one got hosed up by shrapnel from WWII they didn't remove); my grandfather is dead now and Simon Power really is a douche so gently caress him. He got one electorate vote from me out of thanks and that's it.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2012 00:50 |
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The Hamster Man posted:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10784735 They really need an indicator that he is changing topic - I was trying to reconcile breastfeeding with anti-maori sentiment for a wee bit there.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2012 02:37 |
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Varkk posted:Imagine if an employer told a new employee they had to pay out of their own pocket for a wheelchair access ramp. I was just talking about this at work. In that case you are employed voluntarily by someone who knows you're disabled then refuses to provide the tools you need to do the work. In her case, she was appointed to a position, and the employer (the House of Representatives) is not set up to have her work in a role they did not select her for specifically. It is lovely but it is not a directly transferable situation. On the other hand, the people of New Zealand "hired" her to do the job, so as her employer we should pay out of our pocket (with taxes) to enable her.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2012 01:40 |
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Ark Silva posted:You are correct that common law exists now referencing the " Principals of the treaty" How ever if I asked what those were, all I would get is a bunch of gibberish derived from the Maori version of the treaty(Lets not go there)Those principals do not exist in a signed version of the treaty. Have you actually read it? Or do people just listen to what they hear on the news?
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2012 02:54 |
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TetsuoTW posted:Hey guys, have you ever heard about how the Maori aren't actually native because the Nation of Waitaha was actually here first? Nah bro it was the Chinese, I read it in a book this one time and have not questioned the veracity of this statement.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2012 03:44 |
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Red_Fred posted:Holy poo poo this post! I didn't but I'm largely ignorant and don't fly off the handle when I'm full of poo poo. While I was looking up the chinese thing to confirm it I found some stuff about a celtic presence in NZ that pre-dates the Maori but it's all so and Ark Silva-y I felt bad about reading it. Why does no one just sensibly set poo poo like this out so it is accessible and not instantly written off as crazy?
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2012 04:26 |
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Vagabundo posted:The New Zealand Celts thing is, if I remember correctly, the belief that New Zealand was populated by a race of Celtic giants and Celtic dwarfs, who built the prototypes of Maori structures, which they then copied because OBVIOUSLY Maori are incapable of building things or doing practical stuff like making the entry to where food was stored small, so that a thief would be dissuaded from stealing large amounts. It's largely popular among shitheads like the white power groups and that fuckass Kyle Chapman, who want to deny Maori their rightful place as the original inhabitants of New Zealand - kind of like how people who bring up the Moriori tend to be the "I'm not racist but gently caress the Maori, those subhuman scum" type of racist idiots. Yeah that is largely what I had found, but there was also a bunch of archaeological stuff that was entered into the National Archives and sealed, and a head that the British Museum had that they not wanted to return with a bunch of maori heads because it was visibly not maori. It'd just be nice to read about that without all the bugfuck crazy all over the place.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2012 04:58 |
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Ark Silva posted:
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2012 05:19 |
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Varkk posted:Can't we all ignore Mr Chapman's follower and get on with talking about how out of touch Lockwood Smith is? http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6414948/Speaker-hits-back-in-technology-row Lockwood is upset that they have politicised a... political issue?
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2012 06:19 |
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klen dool posted:A month seems to be an obscene amount of time to wait for advice. This situation is ludicrous. Given how long they could reasonably have expected it to be an issue before now, yes. Just pay for drat closed captioning; it gives Mojo help, lets other deaf people interact with the process and gives lazy loving MP's who spend the entire session playing sudoku a transcript they can use later.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2012 07:10 |
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Just watching the news on 3+1 - does anyone really give a flying gently caress about Mallard selling tickets to homegrown on trademe? He bought them, couldn't use them so sold them by auction... if people didn't want to pay more than retail why the gently caress did they? That is how auctions work! It hardly seems like something that should have pre-empted Iran's nuclear development, or the P lab bust, as the first story. It would not have been out of place as the dumb "before you change the channel now that sports is next" story.
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# ¿ Feb 16, 2012 07:07 |
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ledge posted:WEll, him introducing a law that would stop scalpers for big international events then looking like he's scalping was pretty loving stupid of him. Yeah, but it is just "pretty loving stupid" and hardly of any real significance. Oh look, half an hour in and we're getting to the Manawatu gorge, a major issue for the lower north island exacerbated by decades of poor management and cost cutting. Welp, better run the story of the MP looking like a tit before this! e: To be fair, that segment had Brownlee looking like a tit too... Big Bad Beetleborg fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Feb 16, 2012 |
# ¿ Feb 16, 2012 07:30 |
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My What's this about using tax payer time and equipment? You've never checked your own email on your work computer or taken a break?
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# ¿ Feb 16, 2012 08:13 |
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ClubmanGT posted:I don't bill 'taking a break' to anyone, so no. Sorry, I'm talking about Mallard and trademe in response to Mr Triplepost there, not Marryatt. Pigeon Shamus posted:Saddle Road Big Bad Beetleborg fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Feb 16, 2012 |
# ¿ Feb 16, 2012 08:25 |
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Dude you could have stretched that out to 5 posts if you were able to whip yourself in a lather like roarshark can.
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# ¿ Feb 16, 2012 20:01 |
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NZ Herald posted:Greens co-leader Russel Norman said he was "pretty shocked that the Finance Minister went into the election telling us that these were reasonably accurate figures and now he is telling us they are just a guess. look at the Greens leaving out the facts again am i rite?
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2012 01:11 |
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dusty posted:Wellington's bus system is fantastic compared to the rest of the country, if you live out of the CBD you should bus. I get the thrilling sight of Russell Norman, Guyon Espiner and other D-grade Wellington celebrities on the bus. Patrick Gower occasionally gets the same bus as me back out to the Hutt and he is one of those people who tries to talk to other passengers (or the driver if no one will put up with his poo poo). As if you needed another reason to hate him.
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# ¿ Feb 18, 2012 09:15 |
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miss_chaos posted:Buses to Petone etc are much more bearable. And so much more reliable than the trains.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2012 21:00 |
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Stephen Fry today compared our lovely internet to having lovely roads; we wouldn't accept crap roads so we shouldn't accept crap internet. Uh buddy you need to drive around a bit more.
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2012 07:23 |
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Vagabundo posted:I dunno, maybe he meant roads literally made out of poo poo. Just because he is gay doesn't mean there is a call for talk like that. I don't know what I'd think if Shearer actually sat down and behaved like a grown-up with a plan for the future; it's not something I'm accustomed to seeing in our politicians. e: It's like what two hands/fingers said about the NZTA and someone needing to basically spend a whole career fixing fuckups and not taking poo poo; people are too busy worrying about getting re-elected to do a good job for the long-term health of the country. Big Bad Beetleborg fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Feb 21, 2012 |
# ¿ Feb 21, 2012 08:00 |
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sanchez posted:That is fantastic, good on him. I think that a lot of schools just outright lied and said "no policy" so as not to have to deal with it. Certainly my school had a policy of "no girl? no go"
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2012 20:05 |
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So does that mean his sentence being mitigated because of molestation shouldn't count if Uncle Badtouch didn't blow a load on him?
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2012 05:14 |
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Red_Fred posted:I think it's funny how I told a bunch of pro-state asset sales types that the government wouldn't give a gently caress who bought the shares and that most 'average' kiwis can't afford shares normally let alone in a recession. Govt should make a purely voluntary kiwisaver-esque thing where I can give them smaller amounts of money to invest because I can't afford Gareth Morgan's buy-in, and then they could use that money to "buy" me some SOE.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2012 21:00 |
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Frogmanv2 posted:Im an Australian having a bit of an argument with a Kiwi who is banging on about how relations with the indigenous population are much more advanced over there. Is there a resource online where I can find out more about whats going on in New Zealand? That seems like a pretty subjective claim. I mean, we didn't bury infants up to the neck then play football with their heads but we're hardly a frictionless unit.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2012 04:17 |
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We all have alcoholism problems together!
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2012 05:52 |
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Two Finger posted:
It's easier to say "PoA representatives say..." and the like; no investigation required and no chance of being done for slander/libel because you're reporting someone's statement.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2012 19:18 |
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Varkk posted:So if they can fill most of that quota just regurgitating a press release that came accross their desk then they will. See: NZherald and stuff.co.nz
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2012 23:02 |
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Two Finger posted:
I expect that is how a lot start out, but then they turn into The Listener or IDIOT CONSPIRACY THEORIES MONTHLY when it's time to pay the bills.
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2012 01:04 |
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 23:38 |
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ClubmanGT posted:Anyone who can do basic maths should realise that a $50k mortgage at 20% interest works out cheaper than a $500k mortgage at 5%. But that's what people will keep telling you, even when you point it out to them. YOUR GRANDFATHER DIDN'T GET HIS ARSE FILLED WITH LEAD IN EGYPT SO YOU COULD BE AN UNGRATEFUL LITTLE poo poo!
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2012 10:24 |