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William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.
Oh, I'm not saying it's wrong at all; most species of leaf monkeys can have any number of names, depending on where you are in the world. I just never heard that one before and thought it sounded cool.

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William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.
Polar bears generally give no fucks.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Lionfish by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Clownfish by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

ElZilcho posted:

Where did you get that picture?, looks too nice and clean to be out in the ocean!

That really is a beautiful picture.

Audubon Aquarium of the Americas.

It took a bit of cleaning up in Photoshop. Here's the original:

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.
Elephant kicks the poo poo out of a car.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Black And White Colobus by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.
Finally getting around to processing my giant backlog of photos.


Cheetah
by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Hippopotamus
by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Panamanian Golden Frog
by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Caucasus Viper
by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Hummingbird
by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.
Cross-posting a few from SAD.


Mandrill by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Goeldi's Monkey by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Tawny Eagle by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


African Painted Dog by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Green Tree Python by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Horned Puffin by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Kookaburra by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Sichuan Takin by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Hippopotamus by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Snow Leopard by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Chimpanzee by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Snowy Egret by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

InternetJunky posted:

I love seeing your name pop up on this thread because it means more fantastic photos.

Thanks. Here's more.


Blue-Bellied Roller by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Chimpanzee by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Amazon Milky Frog by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Red-Billed Toucan by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Somali Wild rear end by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

William T. Hornaday fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Jul 22, 2014

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Kenshin posted:

Good lord those are beautiful. Where are you taking these exactly?

Various zoos.



Blue-Crowned Motmot by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Ring-Tailed Lemur by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Black And White Ruffed Lemur by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Cinereous Vulture by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Chimpanzee by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Kenshin posted:

I need to not feel weird about taking my 400mm to the zoo.

I can't imagine any reason why you should feel weird bringing it.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.
My standard gear is a Canon 7D, a 70-200 2.8L IS, a 12 mm extension tube, a 580EXII, and a 24-70 2.8L (that I almost never actually end up using.) I'm gonna be getting a 400 5.6L sometime soon which should be fun, but honestly the 70-200 is my favorite thing in the world and I'll probably still be using it 90% of the time.

I've never had any sort of huge issue with people giving me crap for my camera. Occasionally I'll have people tell me, "Wow, that's a nice camera" and "Ooh, there's a good shot over here" (which it never is.) Just bring some headphones and make it clear that you're ignoring people.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

ExecuDork posted:

I know you gave us a write-up a while ago about your techniques, both shooting and editing, but I was wondering specifically if you had any advice regarding shooting through glass.

Also, are all those fantastic poses the result of luck and patience, or do you do anything to get the animal's attention? From the text under your avatar I'm expecting the answer is NOT "tap on the glass". Unless the otters are underfed, I suppose.

Also also, make a drat book already. drat the lawyers, full speed ahead! I'd buy the poo poo out of William T. Hornaday's Big Book of Animals.

EDIT: I really wanted to ask about the headphones. Does that work? I find when I'm wearing headphones people just come up and talk at me regardless.

Shooting through glass is really hit or miss. The main problem with the stuff at zoos is that it's primarily built for strength, with optical clarity a distance second. Sometimes the windows are glass, sometimes they're acrylic, sometimes they're polycarbonate, sometimes they're a combination these and/or other space-age materials. But regardless what it’s made out of, smaller is usually better.
Herps and inverts don’t require much strength for containment/safety purposes and the exhibits are small enough that the windows can afford to be like 1/4 to 1/2” thick. But as both the animals and exhibits start to get larger, that’s when poo poo starts to get crazy. Birds and small mammals can be around 1” thick, carnivores and great apes can be around 2-3” thick, and hippos and other exhibits with underwater viewing can easily be 4” thick or more. All the crazy refraction from that coupled with the less-than-optimal optical quality of the glass (e.g., the windows in our great ape exhibits consist of three 1” sheets of bulletproof glass laminated together,) and you’re already fighting an uphill battle before you even touch your camera. On top of this, the thicker windows usually have a weird bluish-green color cast (that somehow seems to change from photo to photo) and any direct sunlight falling on them will make everything look hazy. So it’s super easy to end up with a photo that looks soft, has a splotchy and inconsistent focal plane, low contrast, and looks like you ran it through a lovely Instagram filter. Your best bet is pretty much to be as perpendicular to the glass as possible.

Also, if you’re using a hood and can get right up to the glass, shooting straight on will more or less eliminate any issues with reflections you might have. I do tend to get a lot of people coming up to me complaining about reflections (right after they stood 10 feet back from the glass to try and take a photo.) It’s really pretty simple: if whatever is on your side of the glass is brighter than what’s on the other side, you’re gonna see a reflection. And you don’t necessarily have to mash your camera right up to the glass every time; if you can find something dark in the reflection, you can shoot through that. Heck, if you wear a dark/black shirt you can be able to stand back a few feet from the glass and, as long as you’re shooting through the reflection of the shirt, still be able to get a clean image. And because I don’t want to be limited to shooting perpendicular to the glass all the time, I made a secondary hood (out of a strip of velcro and some black foam sheet that I got from a craft store) that’s angled at 45-degrees which I can just throw on the end of my hood when I need it. Although anything more than that and everything will get pretty wonky with the refraction, even with the thinner stuff.

Dirty glass is another issue, but usually is not at all noticeable when you’ve got a telephoto right up against the glass. Bringing something to clean the glass is probably a handy thing to have, but I’ve just been too lazy to actually do it. Plus I do most of my photography first thing in the morning and the windows are usually cleaned at this time; bonus is that there are far fewer people wandering around, the light is better than the rest of the day, and many of the animals are most active then. Honestly, I’ve found the visitor side of the glass to be far dirtier than the animal side; in fact, I actively avoid touching the windows because I routinely get to see how many disgusting children have licked and sneezed all over it.

For the most part, I’m just capturing the animals doing whatever they’re doing. It’s a lot of patience and waiting, but it really helps to be an animal person and be able to recognize patterns in behavior, to know the natural histories of the species to understand their mannerisms and tendencies, and to anticipate how they’ll act. And taking a whole shitload of pictures and throwing out most of them.
Knocking on the glass is a waste of time and guaranteed to make the keepers hate you. And depending on the individual animals and species, it can become a major source of stress. But really, it achieves nothing. The vast majority of the animals have learned to completely zone out everything that is happening beyond the glass and won’t respond to or acknowledge you in any way. Some of the primates species may be interested in certain things and come over just to check them out, but they’re not going to come running down to see you just because you’re pounding your fists on the window or making kissing noises at them (I seriously don’t understand why people do this.)

Headphones work fantastically most of the time. Generally people know not to bother you, and you also don’t have to hear the inane comments of the horrible morons around you and their screaming children. You’ll occasionally get that one obnoxious person who can’t take the hint and just has to know if you work for the zoo or how much your camera cost, but they’re usually satisfied with a one-word answer and I’ve never had any issues with someone who just won’t leave me alone.

That's a lot of words, so here's some pictures to even it out.


Chimpanzee by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Coquerel's Sifaka by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Victoria Crowned Pigeon by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Yellow-Banded Poison Dart Frog by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Oh, and bring a tripod for herps.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Jimlad posted:

Interesting... does that mean that your shots are generally handheld with IS, or are you using a tripod?

Also, what's the extension tube for? Do you find it makes any difference at that zoom range?

The only time I use a tripod is with herps, because the lighting usually sucks and they tend to just sit perfectly still for very long periods of time, so it's pretty convenient for slow shutter speeds and focus stacking. Otherwise everything is handheld; just relying on available light (when outside) or a flash bounced at the ceiling and/or wall (when inside.)

The extension tube cuts way down on the minimum focusing distance of the lens. When on a zoom lens it tends to gently caress everything all to hell and can be a bit of a headache to use, but you kinda learn to deal with it after a while. I use it a ton on my 70-200; that's what most of my closeups are with.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Jimlad posted:

Wow, I'm surprised they let you use flash. I always thought normally that's a bad idea with wildlife? Anyway, I think you've inspired me enough to go and try photographing animals. I just got a nice new 135mm lens so next weekend it'll be off to the zoo for me.

'They' is basically me.

Don't use flash on nocturnal exhibits, or if there's a sign telling you not to, or someone tells you to stop, or it's clearly bothering the animals. Otherwise it's fine.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Bat-Eared Fox by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Cotton-Top Tamarin by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Coquerel's Sifaka by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Addra Gazelle by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Malayan Sun Bear by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


And a little bonus thanks to the magic of burst mode...

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.
Yesss.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Fraction posted:

Bugs count as wildlife, right? (photodump!)


Garden snail by straygiraffe, on Flickr


Itsy bitsy spider by straygiraffe, on Flickr

These aren't bugs, duder.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Allen's Swamp Monkey by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Black And White Ruffed Lemur by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Black-Necked Stilt by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Chimpanzee by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Butterfly by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

No no no no no no no.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.
The processing, mostly. I mean, it looks like you applied a Glow Edges filter to the antlers. It's pretty badly over-processed.

What'd the original look like?

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.
I'm not entirely convinced the processing doesn't come across looking like some lovely hack job, but I'm don't feel like spending any more time on it. So, yeah.


Chimpanzee by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Fart Amplifier posted:

Well, for what it's worth, I'm entirely convinced the processing doesn't come across looking like some lovely hack job.

InternetJunky posted:

I'm entirely convinced the processing is awesome. Whatever you're doing keep it up because this is an amazing portrait.

Thanks. There are just so many really lovely, low key lighting, masking jobs on Flickr (e.g., radial solid black gradient) and sometimes I worry that I occasionally stumble into being one of them.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

You could probably afford to ease up on the vignette quite a bit on that one.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Black And White Colobus by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Black-Handed Spider Monkey by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Blue-Bellied Roller by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Hippopotamus by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Mongoose Lemur by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


White-Faced Saki by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.
WildDeath Photography.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

HookShot posted:

It's probably a good thing you didn't, zoos in European cities are like hands down the most depressing things you will ever see, in my experience.

Netherlands has some phenomenal zoos.

You want depressing? Check out some Chinese zoos.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Black And White Colobus by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


White-Tailed Sea Eagle by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Ring-Tailed Lemur by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Black And White Ruffed Lemur by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


East African Crowned Crane by William T Hornaday, on Flickr



And just because...


Cotton-Top Tamarin by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Kenshin posted:

All of those pictures are amazing (honestly if you aren't the official photographer for your local zoo already I can't imagine why) but this is super adorable and reminds me of the videos on youtube where people feed tiny burritos to hamsters.

Too busy being the one taking care of the animals, mostly. Plus my zoo has throngs of volunteer photographers that it seems content with.

And the grill was part of our 4th of July enrichment celebration. Also had a little Liberty Bell for the ring-tailed lemurs, among other things.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

How can you be retarded enough to go near any wild animal let alone a massive hunk of angry muscle and horn? We don't have anything like that in Australia unless you count big buff male kangaroos but it seems like most people here know not to have anything to do with them unless they come to you.

If there's anything that my job has taught me, it's that Americans are complete morons when it comes to understanding animals.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Anubis posted:

(Really like this next shot but because it was through a fence it has some weirdness that I haven't been able to get out. Any advice on how to post that out?)

Curves layer (and maybe a smidge of warmth) in Photoshop to boost the contrast a little bit, and just paint it over any hazy spots caused by the mesh. Not going to be perfect, but will help a little.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.
Got to meet Joel Sartore yesterday. He was in town as the keynote speaker for one of our big conservation donor banquets and opted to do squeeze in some photo shoots for his Photo Ark project. Hung out with him all afternoon while he took photos of a pair of our black lemurs. Nice guy.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.
Protip: Go by yourself.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.
Proboscis monkeys! They're beautiful.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.
Went to Alaska.

Saw some seals.


Harbor Seals by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

Saw some sea lions.


Steller Sea Lion by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

Saw some puffins.


Horned Puffin by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

Saw some bears.


Brown Bear by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Brown Bear by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

Saw some sea otters.


Sea Otter by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Sea Otters by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

One otter was lunching on an octopus.


Sea Otter Eating Octopus by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

And saw a bunch of whales.


Humpback Whale by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Humpback Whale by William T Hornaday, on Flickr


Humpback Whale by William T Hornaday, on Flickr

It was fun.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.
Stayed in Seward the whole time. We did a day trip with Kenai Fjords Tours that took us out to Holgate Glacier and that's when we saw most of the sea life, except the otters who were just hanging around Resurrection Bay and were viewable from shore. And we stopped by the Alaska Wildlife Conservation Center and Alaska Sealife Center as well.

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William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

InternetJunky posted:

Some real great stuff as usual. Was the puffin just a random sea bird in the area or was there a colony you could get to? I'm planning an Alaskan trip as well and would love to check them out.

The bear shot I quoted is just awesome/terrifying. I can't figure out how you took that shot though That's a "bear eating your face off" angle.

We saw lots of puffins from the boat, but this one was at the Alaska Sealife Center. The bear was at the Alaska Wildlife Conservation Center.

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