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Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


Alhazred posted:

I really wonder how they got Alan Moore of all people to write for Spawn.
Todd McFarlane had not yet revealed himself as a massive rear end in a top hat. Image was still in it's early "We're gonna be better than Marvel and DC" stage.

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Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


Mr Wind Up Bird posted:

I wonder if Kickstarter and the inevitable websites like it might finally be something that gives us the push into a surge of new creator owned content. It's obvious that you can raise obscene amounts of money is a short time if you're even halfway decent at social networking.
As of like a year ago Kickstarter could be considered the third biggest comics publisher in America and that was long before the Order of the Stick drive. The surge if under way. As soon as somebody comes up with a portable digital comics format then things will get real interesting.

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


Action Jacktion posted:

I don't think anyone has mentioned that Supreme has been restarted too. They finally printed Alan Moore's long-lost last issue, and then the next issue brings back the original Supreme from the early 1990s, who depowers and/or kills of all of Moore's characters. I think I would've preferred for the series to be rebooted with little to no connection to the past, like the others.

I dunno. I think they should have just did what they did for Glory and Prophet: hired someone who doesn't suck and let them do whatever they want. Trying to ride the coattails and success of Alan Moore and also trying to escape his influence is insane. Pick one. And here's a hint, nobody wanted to read 90's Superman in the 90's if you think the indie comics crowd of today is going to touch that... bahahahaha. Eric Larsen, I could pinch your cheeks.

But whatever. At least they're accidentally publishing two good comics.

Unbelievably Fat Man fucked around with this message at 02:35 on May 27, 2012

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


al-azad posted:

Comixology takes independent submissions, right? They need to cultivate indie goodwill. Indie books sell way fewer copies than the mainstream stuff so the profit margins between 30% and 50% aren't going to be that great. Might as well just make it 30% like every other distributor.

Every once in a while they'll make a big huff about starting to accept self-publishers but I don't know how serious they are. They've had a private beta going on for a few months, but it strikes me as kinda strange. I'm friends with a shitload of indie cartoonists and I'll be damned if any of them have gotten in. Maybe there's an NDA? Except I would expect them to be pimping their stuff on Facebook and the like.

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


bigmike posted:

I don't think this is quite the "gay sex" vs. "straight sex" some people are making it out to be. What was banned is literally in image someone holding a cock and blowing it. (First two pages here: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=16005 ) Marko and Alana's page of them having sex didn't show explicit parts (I'm not including breasts as explicit). I can't remember exactly what was shown on sextillion and if it was anything beyond nudity or 'softcore' depictions of sex. This seems to me like a "softcore porn" stuff is okay, and "hardcore porn" stuff isn't - at least as far is Apple is concerned.

It's not really censorship. As content providers there aren't really any measures to ensure adult content is only being sold to adults on the App store, beyond a one time credit card activation - and even then, a 12 year old kid could buy an Apple card from the store. It just feels like a bunch of lawyers are making this call to protect their butts. If Apple really was trying to 'censor' this, don't you think they would have blocked the web download workaround that was posted immediately? I can understand where the decision is coming from.

I think the real outrage is that we have to wait until August for #13.
This is an absolutely piss weak defense of censorship. I cannot explain how happy I am that Brian K Vaughn is not rolling over for Apple.

Hopefully, what will happen is that Apple will see that they look like a bunch of homophobic pieces of poo poo and allow Comixology to publish Saga #12, which is exactly what happened before when some dudes were adapting Ulysses by James Joyce into comics form. Apple pulled some similar poo poo on a Eurocomics publisher and a few manga publishers, but since nobody cared about them I'm pretty sure they're still censored.

And you know the best part? There's a thread over in Ask/Tell>Business, Finance and Careers about writing erotica to make money. That thread has inspired hundreds of erotic stories, many of which have been published through to the iTunes store directly, not in any third-party app like Comixology or anything. Each one of these stories has graphic depictions of sex an order of magnitude more graphic and explicit than anything BKV would bother putting in Saga. Ohhh ohh, but it's text so it's TOOOOTALLY different. Except that it's also intentionally lewd, lascivious and each of those stories is outright pornographic. It took me five seconds to find one of my own stories about gay werewolves having buttsex. Apple doesn't ban that stuff, but for some reason comics featuring gay sex get the banhammer.

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


I assume you're talking about the original books?

It's hard to recommend them because even though they were some of the best comics in their day, their day was 1993. And I don't know what constitutes this deal.

If it's #1's I'd definitely say "no". I love Archer and Armstrong but the first issue is literally, "the titular characters meet cute and get sucked through a hole to dinosaur land and a line wide crossover". #2 is like part 7 of the crossover and it's not really explained what happened in the other books.

That sounds bad, but that's superhero comics in 1993. Some books have aged better than others (my god... Shadowman's costume...) but not a one of them is as bad as Spawn.

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


Sometimes I really wonder what the hell is going on at Apple. I make most of my money writing porno stories. Often times there's butt stuff in my porno stories--and worse, gay butt stuff. So why is that totally cool to publish to the iTunes store but not for Comixology? Insanity.

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


Lurdiak posted:

I'm curious to know what an invalid reason for disliking something would be.

Scott Pilgrim is not racist enough by half.

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


It's pretty convoluted and insane by design. It would probably make more sense if the previous issues were fresh in your mind. The pacing is very fast and it doesn't hold your hand. This is a story about a swarm of clones of one dude, several of which are essentially identical except for a scar or an arm made of alien goo.

The original Awesome Comics/Maximum Press characters exist largely as name drops and have been transformed so much that they barely resemble their original incarnations.

(I'm also pretty sure the trades reorganized explicitly to make the story more comprehensible, but I've been reading it as it comes out.)

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


There's probably some truth to that. I feel like Bitch Planet has a lot of potential but the first issue doesn't fully realize it.

But then I super love Soylent Green and the OG Planet of the Apes and Logan's Run and I feel like Bitch Planet is pretty close in feeling too those. I'm all about seventies social commentary scifi.

Unbelievably Fat Man fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Dec 14, 2014

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


Blue Rose worked very well. I think the plot was kind of obvious given the ending of the previous Supreme book, but Blue Rose does a good job of balancing a metafictional narrative on a more or less reasonable human character. Generally when a comic book nerd says something is weird and doesn't make much sense they mean it not about bad man come and hurt good man, good man sad, good man beat bad man. God forbid stories have something more interesting happen in them.

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


I'm not really sure how I feel about Klaus. I'm prolly the second biggest Santa fan on the forums next to Benito Cereno and Morrison is one of the strongest writers working today. Unfortunately I feel like Klaus draws too heavily from the Rankin/Bass Santa special. Grimsvig is pretty much straight up Sombertown and Lord Magnus is legit just the Burgermeister Meisterburger.

The sequence where Santa goes on a shamanic vision quest is legit, though.

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Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


I don't read Island because Brandon Graham, while making things I like, has super weird and questionable taste. There's like two comics in it I find interesting and the rest are viscerally not my poo poo. It's sad because I'd like to see more anthologies but it's hard to justify shelling out the price of two or three other comics for like a dozen pages of something I want.

Same thing goes for Dark Horse Presents too, but Onta definitely doesn't help.

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