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Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty
Hello!

I purchased some Yoshino Cherry Tree Seeds (I couldn't afford a sapling), with the intent of attempting to get at least one to grow to try making a Bonsai tree.

I've never done this before, and I'm going to read the items linked in the OP when I can, but I was wondering if there is anything specific to these plants/my situation I should know.

I live in Virginia, which I believe is zone 7a, if that means something.

The seeds are being stratified according to the instructions on from the nursery: soaked in warm water for 30 minutes, patted dry, and placed in a container in the fridge for 10 weeks.

They are coming up on the time to take them out and plant them, so I wanted to make sure I know what I need to have ready for that.

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Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty

Dr Intergalactic posted:

It means everything. It will dictate what trees will thrive in your climate and inform pretty much all your decisions related to the care of your trees.

With that said, welcome to the hobby and good luck with those seeds!

I started in late 2020 (pandemic hobby) and after a few years I'm starting to see the fruits of my labor. It's a long long long timescale hobby, you know, because trees grow slow. :)

There are a lot of great resources out there!

https://bonsaimirai.com/ Is at the forefront of American Bonsai and has a wealth of knowledge on their website, even in the free section. Lots of videos on YT and the like.

https://www.bonsainut.com/ Is a very active forum where you can find a ton of info.

There's also a sea of bad info out there so just go slow, take in as much as you're comfortable with, and don't be afraid to make mistakes!

I'm hopping the Yoshino Cherry will grow well in my area. I'm pretty sure they're the species Japan gifted to the US that are planted in Washington DC, which is just north of me, so I would thinks they'll tolerate the winters.

I suppose I could bring it inside over the winter, I have a plant grow light for my Hibiscus plant (which absolutely will not tolerate the winters here).

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty
So, I gotcha some great advice from that Bonsai forum.

However, one thing nobody actually mentioned was how I should go about growing the cherry tree seeds I have.

It was stressed that it'll take like 5+ years before they're ready to be, uh, bonsai'd(?), bit my question is, what do I do with them until then?

What size pot should I put them in? A regular pot, or a Bonsai pot?

Regular soil, or that bosai soil stuff that looks like crushed clay?

I don't want to get 5 years down the road and find out I hosed up at the beginning and they grew too big (or didn't grow right, etc).

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty

Dr Intergalactic posted:

Yup this is accurate. Also, if you can get them in the ground they'll grow much faster.

I live in an apartment, unfortunately.

My mom lives in the area, so I may be able to stick them in her yard. I have 10 seeds, so depending on how many germinate I was gonna give her one anyway.

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty

Ok Comboomer posted:

honestly you’re best off getting hold of a cherry (or flowering plum, they’re usually hardier and their flowers are 95% the same) and chopping it back/air layering it/etc to get a bonsai.

Even something like a Home Depot tree (end of season sales coming soon, trees for 50% off/etc) will give you a more immediate and hardy pathway to a bonsai and learning bonsai techniques than growing a seedling up and waiting a decade

How does chopping back/air layering work?

If the sapling is 4ft tall, I feel like that's a looot of trimming.

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty

Annath posted:

So, I gotcha some great advice from that Bonsai forum.

However, one thing nobody actually mentioned was how I should go about growing the cherry tree seeds I have.

It was stressed that it'll take like 5+ years before they're ready to be, uh, bonsai'd(?), bit my question is, what do I do with them until then?

What size pot should I put them in? A regular pot, or a Bonsai pot?

Regular soil, or that bosai soil stuff that looks like crushed clay?

I don't want to get 5 years down the road and find out I hosed up at the beginning and they grew too big (or didn't grow right, etc).

So I had these cold stratifying in the fridge and, uh, kinda forgot about them?

I took them out today and stuck them in some little yogurt cups with some soil, hoping to sprout some before putting them in a pot.

Is there any chance they sprout after months in the fridge, or are they pretty much hosed?

They were only like $10 so it's not that big a deal.

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty

Platystemon posted:

So you had them in the refrigerator for five months?

That’s not that weird. You stand a decent chance of getting germination.

It’s a finicky species in general though.

I have 10 seeds, hopefully 1 or 2 sprouts.

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty

Annath posted:

I have 10 seeds, hopefully 1 or 2 sprouts.

None sprouted lmao.

I ordered a sapling from the Arbor Day foundation - cheapest place I could find.

They ship 3'-4', so if I can't gradually prune it down to size I'll just keep it in a pot as a pretty-but-small tree :downs:

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty

bessantj posted:

Sorry you didn't have any success.

I have never been able to get anything to sprout from packs, mind you I think they're a bit of a scam.

Probably lol. But it was only $10 for 10 seeds, so not like I was out a lot of money.

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Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty

trilobite terror posted:

I have my eye on a big specimen bloodgood at a local garden liquidator that I think would make a rad omono-to-imperial (prolly closer to five and a half feet when refined) tree.

Everybody seems to hate these for bonsai, the nodes are too long, they’re better as a yard tree, blablabla, but at that size it seems like the strain’s complaints aren’t that much of a problem, right?

I know people poo poo on the idea of “ready made bonsai” but the shape is there, it just needs secondary and tertiary refinement. Worst case Ontario I might grab it anyway and plant it in the yard.

I had to Google "omono" and TIL bonsai don't necessarily have to be little tiny dudes in a pot small enough to sit on a desk.

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