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Thanks for the heads up, bought the bundle. Probably never gonna end up playing it, but hey, it's for a good cause. Though I confess I am bit peeved that Humble does not allow you to set their share any lower than 30%.
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Arglebargle III posted:Ugh it turns out Dan Abnett wrote a canon version of the final battle of the Horus Heresy and basically confirmed all the existing lore. That sucks! I love it when 10,000 year old records have errors and omissions and fanfic inserted by later scribes and then modern scholars argue about it for generations. Ollanius Pious is an interesting character when he's inserted by later chroniclers who assume that the patron saint of the Guard was a real person and put him in because that's now the tradition 3,000 years later. There's nothing whatsoever interesting about him just getting murked by Horus. In Horus Heresy "Ollanius Pious" is in-universe fabrication, born by a future Inquisitor Moriana co-opting a story spreading around common soldiers about a grenadier Ollanius "Olly" Piers and combining it with her comrade Ollanius Persson to come up with an inspiring legend. Piers defended a banner depicting the Emperor against a Chaos Space Marine successfully (and later died doing the same against Angron), and the story started spreading and changing in each re-telling, with Olly joking with a historian that he should write it down as a common soldier defying Horus himself, and not for just a banner, but the Emperor himself. When Moriana heard the story among soldiers, she jumped right on that, and inserted what she liked to think happened to her comrade Ollanius. Ollanius "Oll" Persson was one of Emperor's old buddies from pre-history, but who had walked out on his rear end tens of thousands years earlier and then laid low. Before the Heresy started, he was a ex-soldier turned farmer, but he got caught up in the bullshit. He died trying to buy Emperor precious seconds to get up, but Moriana explicitly does not know what happened to him, she just used the already existing story about different Ollanius as a framework. So "Ollanius Pious" was never a real person in-universe 40k, he's legend based on two different people, Ollanius Piers, who was a common soldier who died defending a banner of the Emperor and Ollanius Persson who died defending the Emperor, but nobody actually knows he did that. Warden fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Feb 6, 2024 |
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Potato Salad posted:
I think that there has been some broken telephone effect going on, because that is not a big mystery of any kind. They panicked because they initially thought that Emperor's last Hail Mary attack was futile, and thus were slow in returning the power Horus had set aside for a moment to him, to punish him and make it clear he is nothing but a puppet, but it turns out they were wrong. The Emperor did actually have a real shot of killing Horus, and they completely lost their poo poo when they realized that. What they didn't see until it was too late was that their plan was going to fail now. Thus, panic. The book lays out that while the conclusion of the Siege left them reeling and screaming initially, they later come to delight in the poo poo-hole of a setting that wh40 becomes. Instead of quick end and death, they get an eternity of a slow slide to an eventual victory.
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moths posted:I noticed he was acting like a totally different character but just assumed it was a disconnect between authors. Saturnine where Olly appeared (and died) and Know No Fear, where we first met Ollanius, were both written by the same author, Dan Abnett.
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