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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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LimburgLimbo posted:

Come to think of it I keep hearing about how the Chinese aren't yet actually able to make the engines for some of their fighters themselves. Is making rocket engines for moon landings that much simpler?

Edit: Come to think of it considering we were doing that poo poo in the 60's then it probably is way less demanding than a 5th gen fighter engine, isn't it.

Short version: yes, badass jet engines that function at full strength in atmosphere efficiently are in some ways harder to do than badass rocket engines that poo poo out [whatever] at an adequate rate and efficiency to achieve orbit.

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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Vladimir Putin posted:

France, Germany, Italy, and the UK said today they would join China's AIID bank which was set up to rival the U.S. created world bank. Don't know if that's big news or just a blip.

It's potentially fairly big in the long run.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Bloodnose posted:

Not screwed at all. Anyone with even a vague understanding of securities stayed far away from the Chinese stock market because it lacked even a semblance of the integrity of any developed world market. The people who are screwed are the huge multitude of retail investors with grade school educations and the rich and powerful people they will now seek to eat.

Some Sri Lankan investors are pointing and laughing, and SL is the country where the top financial regulator resigned with a letter that basically consisted of NONE OF THESE MOTHERFUCKERS WILL LET ME DO MY JOB gently caress THIS poo poo I'M OUT.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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:psyduck:

This is completely goddamn preposterous.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Grand Fromage posted:

Is there any truth to all the stories of Taiwan being covered with all kinds of hidden defensive stuff? Like the things Switzerland has everywhere. I saw some of the WIle E. Coyote defense poo poo around Seoul and Taiwan's had a lot of time and motivation to set up defenses.

Kinmen is (was?) completely goddamn bonkers for 50s and 60s values of defenses but I'm not sure how many of them are seriously upkept these days, I know the island's a lot more open to tourism (as opposed to "MILITARY HELLSCAPE STAY OUT THIS MEANS YOU"); Taiwan proper has a lot of hardened airbases (special credit to Chiashan, with a hollowed out mountain hangar and command facility) and approximately two fucktillion missiles. I'm unaware of much in the way of wacky stuff other than some hardened-with-many-yards-of-rock facilities, though; if the island's successfully landed on in force, Plans A through G have already failed.

Or maybe that's just what they want us to think. :tinfoil:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Fojar38 posted:

They want to project power into the Indian Ocean.

Yes, India is pissed off about this and actively building up its forces as well as starting to abandon its traditional neutrality for closer ties to the US. What do you mean "China sucks at diplomacy."

Sri Lanka's kinda-sorta renegotiating their secondary-port deal with China. Original deal was, China finances the whole goddamn thing, and retains control and borderline-sovereignty over a chunk of it. Okay, fine, fair enough - but thing is, SL traditionally has an enormous bug up its rear end over locally staffed and locally administered stuff (which China is humoring in a related deal with a satellite control facility, incidentally!). So one of the highest-profile enterprises of the new coalition/presidency has been to figure out an angle where A) China still foots most of the bill, because frankly, the port's pretty necessary, but B) it's as Sri Lankan as possible.

I doubt this whole sequence of events is all that important to China's operations in Africa, but it does corroborate "China is intensely interested in the Indian Ocean in general".

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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dr_rat posted:

God drat it China just pick two colours and stick to them.

Next week they'll probably have the shares going up flash green then red, and the shares going down flash red then green.

Or just cycle everything through random colors. Journalists who are having epileptic seizures cannot spread vile rumors!

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Fojar38 posted:

This is why Poland hosts massive and explicitly anti-German military parades right now in tyool 2015

Pilsudski was the savior of the continent from the commies, and look at the thanks he got.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Vladimir Putin posted:

Same thing as the UK 19th century vs now.

I'm not sold. Even if we grant the USSR China in the same sense as the British Empire had India, which is flatly preposterous, the USSR had access to:

- Most of Eastern Europe, which frankly was most of communism's non-China non-Russia holdings
- A very modest hunk of SE Asia on a good day
- An extremely modest hunk of the Middle East on a good day, most of which was either Non Aligned Powers (thanks, Tito!) or neutral-ish but willing to accept cash and guns
- Any parts of the Americas that the USA hadn't hit with a lead mallet yet, with Venezuela and Cuba staying on the team

While they were definitely the preeminent not-USA world power, and could present a genuine threat and opponent largely through their nuclear arsenal (and ability to trash Europe), I really don't think they approached the UK's level of global dominance.

Edit: oh, I forgot my obligatory Ceylon Addendum. They were sure as gently caress socialists, and as such received dollars from the USSR, but were also very firmly funded by the UK and not really in the Russian sphere. If anything, they're more in the Chinese sphere today than the Russian sphere yesterday, and they're hedging their bets hilariously on that too.

Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Sep 12, 2015

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Fojar38 posted:

On the other hand a successful invasion and occupation of Taiwan would require the PLA to pull off an Operation Downfall-esque amphibious invasion and the PLA doesn't know how to do anything aside from throw bodies at the enemy until the enemy is overwhelmed.

:raise: They conducted a fairly sophisticated (if modest scale) high altitude war, and had some pretty good tactical acumen even in Korea to compensate for the fact that their ordnance and armor was... not up to American standards.

Heck, even the Vietnamese conflict wasn't completely embarrassing. Just mostly.

Not that an invasion of Taiwan wouldn't go singularly poorly, but that has more to do with Taiwan than with the PLA being incompetent.

Edit: okay, your followup post was better phrased.

Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Dec 21, 2015

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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...Reincarnation?

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Grand Fromage posted:

An attempt at a b-b-but America is always welcome however the abusiveness of Japanese police in obtaining confessions/false confessions is well-documented. Googling "japanese police abuse confessions" gives a nice long list of articles.

Apparently they get extremely confused when people don't confess :v:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Baka-nin posted:

Honestly the opening up of the Chinese market was a team effort hell the Imperial Qing Dynasty itself collaborated with foreign powers to crush descent in the Taiping rebellion and hedged its beats in the Boxer rebellion.

There were a few other things going on during the Taiping Rebellion.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:

That's because they have the equivalent of commissars in their student associations that make sure they don't go native or develop inharmonious lines of thinking.

I'm... pretty sure I know one of those guys personally. :v:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Grand Fromage posted:

That's all accurate as far as I know. One reason the US has so much debt is the US economy is considered so rock solid and reliable that the government can sell t-bills like crazy. The returns aren't spectacular but they're one of the most reliable investments in the world. Which is also why all the "oh let's just default on it what are they going to do about it" talk that has been coming from certain factions is so completely insane, the US has cultivated this reliability for decades and it's a huge huge benefit to US economic deals and world trade that can't be casually thrown out.

A default would be so apocalyptically horrific that it genuinely makes me queasy to contemplate. The US treasury bond is quite literally the reliable investment by which all others are measured.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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hailthefish posted:

Siam
Ceylon
Formosa

Ceylon is catchy as gently caress and still popular as a secondary name though.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Telsa Cola posted:

Wasn't there reports of the infrastructure collapsing in like half a year?

So far in Sri Lanka the stuff that's been built has held up (even if a chunk of it is hilariously ill-advised Western-style graft by my guilty-pleasure favorite former semi-despot :v:) but ask me again in ten years!

Otoh SL is very conveniently located and serves the vital strategic interest of annoying India, so they demonstrably get somewhat favorable treatment that may or may not be all that extrapolable.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Fojar38 posted:

They're going to respond with more threats and more anger without realizing that's just going to get Trump to double down again and again and again

They need to get some diplomats to come and stay in Trump Tower and butter him up.

Possibly literally.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Fojar38 posted:

Good to see we can all look forward to 4 years of "my batshit theories and beliefs have been validated because people thought Donald Trump wouldn't be President."

You only just got the memo, huh. :v:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Fojar38 posted:

In the event that the Trump administration announces on Monday "Yep, we're doing the 45% tariffs, the bill is on Trump's desk right now and he's about to sign it" how quickly do you think that manufacturing can react?

Does immediately burning to the ground count as a reaction?

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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sincx posted:

Lol, they're rubbing it in

https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/829964009042382848

Trump is a loving idiot.

China's unyielding stance. :china:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Poe's Law is really kicking in and I'm not sure who to hope is being ironic.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Pirate Radar posted:

Now, mind you, I've repeatedly asked students "Who was the founding father of the Republic of China?" and gotten the response "Oh... he was a doctor, I think" and that guy has a subway station named after him here (Taipei) so sometimes people just don't really know.

There's a Yuan Shikai subway station? :v:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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whatever7 posted:

Is there any sim game that give decent climate change scenarios?

Fate Of The World is pretty darn fun and made an effort to be rigorous in 2012-or-whatever and is 90% about climate change.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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whatever7 posted:

Can I completely flood Bangladesh, sacrifice it for better Arctic shipping routes?

Yes But.

The loss condition of most scenarios is 3 degrees C of warming. Also, sadly, the geographic granularity is regional, not national, so Bangladesh becoming a drowned hellscape can be compensated for by investment by your shadowy globalist organization in Indonesia or something.

Pretty sure northern regions benefit temporarily in economic terms from warming though :has:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Bloodnose posted:

Chairman Sheng-ji Yang completed a secret project:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szQniAgeQrM

Okay, this is frankly kind of amazing.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Fojar38 posted:

It's authoritarian propaganda. Hope that helps.

Oh dear, it is? I couldn't tell. :ohdear:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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sincx posted:

Court Deals Major Blow to Hong Kong’s Pro-Democracy Movement

https://nyti.ms/2ufDHOc


This is a brazen way to remove the opposition.

Oh god, what if one of them rolled their eyes :ohdear:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Imperialist Dog posted:

Disqualification. Not joking.

According to the article the disqualification were for word choice and tone. I was expressing mostly-faux concern that going a step beyond that would lead to, I dunno, 20 years in a work camp.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Bathtub Cheese posted:


I wouldn't be so sure about that. Read the quoted passages and the linked article. I'm tired of establishing this every loving page.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?action=setseen&threadid=3466532&index=14254

So I read it and I really don't think you're representing it honestly. Or if you are, you're a moron.

So I'm going to suggest something that may not have crossed your mind: the 100 years of colonialism remark you are fixed on was a joke in an interview, you twit.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Trammel posted:

If that's not a mandate from heaven, I don't know what is.

Plot twist: CCP leadership has sacrificed enough humans to resurrect Zeus. Bring it, Christianailures.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Bathtub Cheese posted:

Ah yes the State Dept. employee brutally owned me with their convincing account of the spontaneous nature of color revolutions.

Try harder, moron.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Back Hack posted:

Not really, It's an open secret that the Japanese navy, with encouragement from the US, hasn't complied with their own constitution for several decades now by building whatever class of ship that they want, in any number they want, they classify everything as a destroyer; which accordance with their constitution they're allowed to build as many as they want. For example, Japan has several destroyer "helicopter" carriers, but they big enough and have runways large enough to accommodate aircraft. :ssh:

Ah, so that's where Lucas got the inspiration for Star Destroyers. :v:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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R. Guyovich posted:

wang qishan wasn't named to the cpc central committee, meaning he won't be on the standing committee or heading up the ccdi. weird move for an Authoritarian Dictator Man, letting a key ally step down from his highly influential post

Logical conclusion: Xi Jinping is not an authoritarian. :3:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Bloodnose posted:

It's the name that people who are really "in the know" and "with it" with all things Saudi use for Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince and son of King Salman.

Excuse me, I am neither in the know nor with it, I'm just loving lazy. I reject your libel.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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what's wrong with getting shitfaced on the roof

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R. Guyovich posted:

it's just been revoked

glorious China thread is marching into the bright future and will no longer shelter the corrupt and decadent Great Autismo from justice

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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Raenir Salazar posted:

This made me think of you guys. :)


the shen yun production organization does not like the CCP

a line in the general vein of "we don't perform in China because the Party is destroying traditional Chinese art and culture" or something

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

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sincx posted:

Aren't they a profit center for Falun?

Wouldn't surprise me at all but I'd have to poke around, I'm mostly just going off their own publications.

Fake edit: Apparently they are! Note to self: do not invite my mainland Chinese postdoc buddy. :v:

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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:

:discourse:

Xinhua is raising the banner high.

banners are a foreign manchu importation and therefore suspect

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