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Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

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Gyshall posted:

Essentials is great if you never have plans to expand out of a 3 host cluster.

If you have any plans on adding more hosts in the near future (ie. 4 years) you have to re-buy/upgrade out of the Essentials kit, basically repurchasing vCenter and the existing 3 host licenses.

That is to say, Essentials licenses can't be used in a non-essentials vCenter.

I do think they have an upgrade path now out of Essentials, but I'm not 100% sure.

Oh yeah definitely, but it's a great way to get started on VMware. The Term licenses especially.

Also what Misogynist said.

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May 21, 2004

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Not knowing any details about your competitors offerings is more common than it should be.

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May 21, 2004

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I've been presented with vSphere 5 (the free hypervisor) running on a shitbox HP tower with only one hard disk in :downs:. I'm convinced that the disk is dying a slow death - one of the Windows guests will run chkdsk on boot and take ~2 hours to finish, backup jobs will fail within 15 minutes of starting, and trying to use vmkfstools to copy the vmdk to another datastore fails at the same place each time. Moving the files using the vSphere Client also fails at the same place each time with file read errors.

The VM itself actually boots and runs fine, but I can't seem to move it away from this disk. Even booting something like Clonezilla and trying to copy the volume that way didn't work, failing at around the same point as every other job.

Is there any way to un-gently caress this situation?

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May 21, 2004

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GobiasIndustries posted:

Could you set up a new Windows guest on a non-hosed disk and try migrating the features needed from the VM in question to the newly set up guest?

That is the plan now, it's just a domain controller and print server and that can all be rebuilt pretty easily. I guess a part of me wanted there to be an easy way out of this, but I think it's beyond that point.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

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Don't forget the cold spare licenses required for any cage nuts left in stock but not installed.

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May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Pass all the individual disks through to the host and run this?

http://www8.hp.com/uk/en/products/data-storage/server-vsa.html

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May 21, 2004

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Holy gently caress is it annoying to click something that looks relevant on the MS support pages and be asked to authenticate with your Live ID to get in. Thanks for the tip.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


It's not really an entire Windows server - the hypervisor sort of replaces the OS and then the original OS becomes virtualised on top.

See https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc768520%28v=bts.10%29.aspx

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May 21, 2004

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That becomes slightly relevant if you're buying Veeam - you can only have one Veeam Essentials license per company.

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May 21, 2004

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Is there a difference at all between giving a VM 2x single core CPUs vs 2x cores, other than guest application licensing?

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May 21, 2004

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It seems like something has happened recently to kick VMware into making non-poo poo ways of managing their products

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May 21, 2004

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I think the defaults are aiming at the highest compatibility rather than the 'best' configuration.

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May 21, 2004

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:stare:

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May 21, 2004

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I work with people who don't 'trust' DNS or static DHCP entries so everything is hard coded to use IP addresses. You might think this makes it tough to have valid certificates, and you'd be right. The solution is to tell their clients to ignore SSL errors.

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May 21, 2004

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I don't have time to read the full MSA 2040 blurb but it looks like asynchronous replication which means you will have an RPO involved. I wouldn't be able to recommend such an entry-level SAN for something as critical as "absolutely 0 downtime".

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May 21, 2004

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And the costs of the connectivity / general networking stuff.

Nobody who isn't a liar will promise to give you no downtime, either.

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May 21, 2004

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Is Oracle still a thing that people would rather spend the $$$ on fighting the licensing terms in court than spending that money on moving to a platform that doesn't come from a company that wants to gently caress you at every opportunity? Genuine question by the way, I have no idea what Oracle's strengths are (were?).

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May 21, 2004

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:toot:

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May 21, 2004

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Is there any reason not to be mildly excited about Hyperconverged Storage Spaces Direct?

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May 21, 2004

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vMotion cares about things like processor features like SSE and other more modern extensions, core count isn't a problem.

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May 21, 2004

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bobfather posted:

Another quick question about ESXi to people in the know:

Is there a way to have the free version of ESXi keep a datastore in software RAID 1, assuming I have 2+ drives to support the mirror?

I'm basically trying to avoid having to shell out $$$ for an LSI or Adaptec hardware controller.

Edit: Or barring being able to do this, am I able to use passthrough to give Windows Server 2008 R2 direct access to 2 identical drives, and then use Windows Server to mirror those drives? If I do this, are those drives still seen as datastores? I know If I use passthrough the drives would not be usable by any other VMs.

What's your end goal look like here?

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May 21, 2004

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Also don't rule out Azure as a place to put a MSSQL database. Obviously depends on your connectivity.

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May 21, 2004

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Potato Salad posted:

Your IT department is retarded if they can't give you a slice of their storage pie. Lack of credentials on the single log generating machine is a bullshit excuse. There may a handful of options at numerous layers of the network to make it happen.

Yeah, seriously. The way your IT has things set up at the moment is just perpetuating the stereotype of IT being unhelpful guardians of their own little fiefdom.

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May 21, 2004

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I like Eaton stuff, tends to be slightly cheaper than APC as well here in Europe.

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May 21, 2004

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Being able to browse to your VM datastores is nice as well.

Stupid simple VMware question: If I have two sites and want to use site recovery manager then I need vCenter at each end, don't I?

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May 21, 2004

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BangersInMyKnickers posted:

Two vCenter instances in linked-mode.

Or you can be cheap as hell like us and have identical vlan/storage IPs/storage vol names on each side and get your data to both sides with storage replication and then manually import the VMX to your inventory and everything lines up.

Yeah this is the conclusion I have come to since it looks like trying to do this in an automated fashion just ends up taking you down the rabbit hole of fixing the next weak link in the chain and then you're into pushing routing updates to get traffic flowing to your DR site etc. For the 6 VMs that people want to protect in this way I'm tempted to just use Hyper-V with local storage at each side.

Applications that can't cluster in tyool 2016 :argh:

Thanks Ants fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Jul 19, 2016

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May 21, 2004

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That was actually what I was thinking of when I said site recovery manager, sorry. Presumably this still requires a vCenter Server license per site though as all the unscheduled failover documentation talks about instigating it from the replica side (makes sense if the primary is down). Can you do this with 2x Essentials Plus clusters or is there a license limitation that prevents that?

I'll throw the question at our VAR and see what they come back with, they can decipher the documentation for me. Thanks for your help.

Thanks Ants fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Jul 19, 2016

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May 21, 2004

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Veeam adds some nice stuff to the failover such as re-addressing networks for different subnets etc.

If you're small and don't need auto failover, synchronous replication etc. then co-locating a server with a bunch of local disk and replicating VMs across with Veeam is hard to beat for the money.

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May 21, 2004

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I meant buy an R730 or similar and then rent a quarter rack of space and connectivity at a convenient location.

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May 21, 2004

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Same. Dual SD cards in the hosts, flash cards on the iDRAC (wish they'd fix the 2GB limitation for virtual media though), 'cheap' RAID1 SSDs in case we need the space in an "oh poo poo" moment. And the new HTML5 iDRAC firmware :dance:

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May 21, 2004

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They cost very little to add onto the iDRAC Enterprise option, and can store an ESXi installer image.

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May 21, 2004

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Yeah deleting snapshot A would just make snapshot B the diff between B and the original VM.

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May 21, 2004

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adorai posted:

You use powercli to change the type and the mac will match the old card.

:eyepop:

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May 21, 2004

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Vulture Culture posted:

Does this product still exist?

Hyper-V server is still a thing, yup.

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May 21, 2004

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Oh hey what's this? Someone who has no business speccing up servers has ordered something to host VMs on and deployed it. Let's take a look!

Single quad-core Xeon E3-1xxx, 32GB RAM, running 6 VMs each with 4 vCPUs allocated :cool:. Let me know how you get on with that.

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May 21, 2004

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https://www.vmug.com/p/cm/ld/fid=8792

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May 21, 2004

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Did vCloud Air ever get off the ground?

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May 21, 2004

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Yeah that's what I heard as well, the entire UK deployed infrastructure was a few racks as of a year ago.

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May 21, 2004

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It's announced now

https://www.vmware.com/cloud-services/vmware-cloud-aws.html

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May 21, 2004

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I can reboot an NFS datastore and vSphere (5.5) will reconnect when it comes back up again. Didn't do any configuration to make this happen as far as I can remember.

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