The United States of America: Granting equal rights, piecemeal, over a period of decades  But for seriously, I hope it just hits a tipping point of acceptance and starts to flow down like freedom water from the heavens. I've literally never heard a logical reason for not granting gays full and equal rights to marriage. There isn't one. The stalling on this is sickening. It's just petulant children digging their heels into the dirt.
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Feb 21, 2012 23:36
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I think the thing that has come to bug me most about the religious sect chiming in on this issue is the fact they do so from this righteous minority that conjures up the idealized version of Christianity or Catholicism, where it is one man, and one woman joined in holy matrimony until death do they part. It doesn't fit anywhere into the real world, and they use it as a bludgeon against these poor gay people who just want to enjoy equal rights. Lets get some demographics on the number of professed Catholics/Christians who have never cheated on their spouses, gotten a divorce, or otherwise violated the tenets of marriage that they purport to care about above all other things, these are the people who come from a righteous place that I can at least respect. The rest, they're voting for an ideal that is so divorced from reality, like they're championing how they want a fairy tale to end rather than anything that resembles the real world and the real people who inhabit it. Toss out all the votes and opinions from the most flagrant hypocrites who have no claim to the issue, since they already made their stance known through their actions, then lets see how the numbers roll out, we can probably wrap this up in a couple years.
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Feb 23, 2012 04:21
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breaklaw posted:Anybody else think Obama might come out for marriage equality if he gets a second term? I think he might. Or at least something like not letting states ban civil unions. There's been rumors and hints and I think he'll do it. I can see him supporting a constitutional measure to "one and done" the whole issue in his second term. It's so lovely that the LGBT community has to have their rights suspended in the face of politics, but Obama is really their best shot for a decisive victory, so you just have to grin and bear it until the re-election, when it's "too late" and all the campaigning is done and it isn't a massive splinter issue that can cost him the general because of hateful bigoted poo poo heads.
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Mar 31, 2012 20:42
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"The sanctity of marriage" thing never fails to crack me the gently caress up. I'd like to see people rally behind anti-divorce legislation to protect the sanctity of marriage oh wait straight people need those.
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Apr 5, 2012 20:06
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:CO civil union bill goes to finance committee today. Someone far better than us has already addressed this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPvVnrV1tow
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May 4, 2012 22:01
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Will someone declare a WAR ON HOMOSEXUALS w/r/t the candidate's polarized stances? Oh nevermind we already got that one going since the dawn of western civilization.
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May 10, 2012 00:57
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Just saw this and wanted to post, cause it's a great lil graphic
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May 10, 2012 17:07
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I used to live in Philly, which is pretty liberal, but between Pittsburgh and Philly it's Pennsyltucky.
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May 10, 2012 17:42
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Maybe this is a question more for a religion thread, but I don't see any around right now: So Christians are all about Jesus right? I mean they're CHRISTians. So Jesus is New Testament. He came down in the sermon of the mount and he was all "this is the new poo poo, those ways are the old ways, and these are the new ways" and made a new covenant with man, then sealed that covenant in blood when he died on the cross. So presumably, Christianity should just be "poo poo Jesus Said", and he never said anything about homosexuality, gays, or gays marrying. The most important bits were to love and worship the one true God above all others, fine, k, and then love thy neighbor as you love thyself. It doesn't say, "Unless your neighbor is gay", and most of the stuff you hear about anti-homosexuality comes from the Old Testament, Leviticus particularly, which is just a joke now, right? Where does the sentiment come from that homosexuality is anti-Christian? Is it just perpetuated by the priests and preachers? From what I've heard the word on it is extremely sparse in the New Testament.
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May 12, 2012 03:19
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:So Colorado turned to poo poo. Yeah. Sucks hard. I have no less than 4 gay people on my team at work who were cheering this on. Maybe next time guys 
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May 15, 2012 03:19
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Can't wait to see Pacman vs Mayweather, with John Waters, Elton John, and Ted Allen bringing Floyd's belts out.
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May 17, 2012 03:19
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If there's one thing we need a whole lot more of, it's reproduction of the human race.
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May 24, 2012 21:58
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SmuglyDismissed posted:The best way to respond to the slippery slope is to reverse it. If we ban gay marriage, we will then move on to ban interracial marriage. Eventually we will ban all marriage and outlaw all human relationships! I love it, slippery escalation.
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Aug 19, 2012 19:24
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Install Gentoo posted:Most Americans would consider it socially acceptable for a 16 year old or 17 year old to marry someone who's a legal adult (especially if the older one is 20 or younger). And that's a marriage of minor and adult. This is the nutty part though, considering what marriage is supposed to be. If I had to choose a favorite loving band for life when I was 16, I'd only be listening to KoRn albums today. How god damned terrible would that be, let alone a lifetime commitment to a person who is changing as much as you are, eughck. "Shotgun" weddings between teens? A-OK. Two gay men in their early 30's with lots of life goals, plans, and a mature outlook? Boooooooooooo!!!
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Aug 19, 2012 22:07
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW4DXOAXF8U This is just unbelievably amazing
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Apr 17, 2013 23:23
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Day one of civil unions in Colorado. My Facebook feed had been great today, in a sincerely good way!
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May 1, 2013 14:55
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quiggy posted:Thanks so much This makes me wonder if gay marriage getting approved has led to some awkward moments between couples, where maybe one partner was just assuming that, hey only one hurdle to overcome and then we're getting hitched!
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May 7, 2013 22:59
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Why is this exact woman every horrible person that speaks out against equality and stuff? It's like there's a factory somewhere that pops them out and sticks them into Town & Country's and sends them into the world.
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May 9, 2013 20:25
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Ho hum, another lukewarm traditionalist appeal that can be hand waved away with any single example of historical shittiness you want to use.
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May 9, 2013 20:39
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The duplicity in his very remarks from one second to the next is loving astounding.
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May 9, 2013 20:42
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Man, this guy is getting really verklempt
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May 9, 2013 20:46
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Some of my best friends are gay, take a shot
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May 9, 2013 20:52
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Is there good noise or bad noise from the outside leaking in?
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May 9, 2013 20:55
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What's with this microphone from a smoky police interrogation room from 1973
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May 9, 2013 21:04
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Passed!!!
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May 9, 2013 21:05
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I wonder what my bi-weekly conversation with my father-in-law will be like this time around, hah. He's a Minnesotan and a true believer conservative, but not insane or in your face about it. I have 0 idea if he'll even mention it or what he'll say about it if he does.
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May 9, 2013 21:17
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Sweeney Tom posted:3 countries legalize it in the span of 2 weeks, and now 3 states are about to do the same in the span of under a month. Great. It'll be loving great if SCOTUS has a treat for the country.
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May 9, 2013 21:22
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Generally speaking, can you bundle together one piece of legislation to amend the state Constitution to allow same sex marriage again and then pass it into law or does it have to be a 2 step process or what?
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May 10, 2013 05:43
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Best sign:
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May 13, 2013 23:16
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Speaking of officiants, it's funny how a scare tactic is WAIT UNTIL YOUR PASTOR IS FORCED TO GAY MARRY A COUPLE!, as if any gay couple would want to have a huge moment of their lives shat upon by "forcing" some bigot to preside over the ceremony. Sorry, no thanks. I'm sure for every abstainer there'll be a dozen people happy to marry a gay couple and make it a memorable moment.
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May 15, 2013 21:03
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Ahahaha, that article is all the bullshit. I love how he hand waves away the comparison of denying gay marriage to denying interracial marriage with the benefit of his placement in the world today, after decades of progressives having the idea of differences in races beaten out of society's consciousness with a hammer. "Well the reason this is silly is that there's very little difference between a black man and a white man" Uhh yeah, lets go see what people were saying about that in the 30's and 40's you tremendous rear end in a top hat.
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May 16, 2013 16:02
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More Later posted:So far civilization hasn't crumbled. I'm anxiously waiting. Just wait, an oblivion gate is going to open any second
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May 29, 2013 17:18
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