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dj_clawson posted:Hey guys. Many illustrators have agents too, I used to work for one of them. I would recommend her but she's semi-retired and only deals with existing contract matters. But if you google for illustrators agents you may get some websites that show samples of various artists' work, then you could make inquiries about specific artists that you like through their agency. I know my former boss was well-versed in all aspects of book/illustration contracts and how to shop for publishers, and was always willing to give advice; you might find another illustrators' agent who could help guide you.
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RetroVirus posted:
Yeah, there are some weird forces at work sometimes. Years ago a group of artists displayed at a gallery I co-owned, and in place of prices, one of the artists had a little card that said something like "God allows me to make art only as long as I never make any money from it". which kind of made her sound like a holier-than-thou rear end in a top hat. And her art really wasn't that good, so maybe it was a defensive move? I know that probably sounds harsh, but I really don't like how that sort of thing feeds into the public perception of the "suffering artist" as holy man/woman. You should be able to earn a living on what you're talented at, whether it's banking or painting pictures.
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neonnoodle posted:It's also possible that that person found that when they were making art for money, all of a sudden it turned into a terrible burden, or it soured the emotional/spiritual mojo they needed to make their work. Some people are "pros" and thrive when they're getting paid. Other people can't stand associating their creative process with money. Obviously everyone's got to eat, but I wouldn't automatically assume that the person you saw was acting superior. That's a more charitable way of looking at it, and I agree that people have different motivations, but I didn't automatically assume anything, really. I wasn't specific in my previous post, but here are the more telling details: She had never made any money from her work; it was a student show and the reason they got it was because we knew the teacher. The students were all adults; I met all of them, and this particular person was from a very priveleged background, and spoke and acted like she was really above all "commercial" stuff. I wouldn't have had a problem with that, but she insisted on being in the show even though she didn't want to sell anything (which i didn't find out until the day the art arrived), thereby, because of limited space, depriving other artists of wall space, artists who DID want to sell and needed the money. The teacher curated the show and for some reason he backed her up, and because of who he was I didn't have any choice. So in this case I was left with a bad impression of her. I know there are artists who are as you describe them above, but she was not one of them. I myself started university-level art school at age 14, and swore I would never become a "mere" illustrator or god forbid a graphic artist, and was sure my work would be in major galleries by at least age 25. The reality is that by age 21 I was working in the art department of a chain of record stores, doing the dreaded "commercial" art, and I've made a living as a graphic artist on and off ever since. At age 14 I suppose it's okay to be a little idealistic, and life has a way of teaching the teachable by the time they become adults, but some people never have to face reality and it can cause problems for other people just trying to make a living.
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Defenestration posted:Random House's Hydra imprint gives a great example of what contract NOT TO SIGN, EVER, HOLY poo poo THIS IS BAD I used to know the woman who started Writer Beware (Anne Crispin), mentioned in this post; she's written a lot of Stars Wars books and makes a decent living at it. She's also been an advocate for writers for a long time, I highly reccomend her blog: http://accrispin.blogspot.com/ (Writer Beware) for those looking to publish, actually make money and avoid scams. This contract really shows how rapacious corporations have gotten in seeking profits above all. The fact that this is Random House putting forth this bullshit is really disheartening - not that publishers have ever been on the side of writers, but this is just downright evil of them. Random House responded to Scalzi's post, but I won't quote it here because it just steams me that they're trying to justify their machinations with convoluted "explanations". . Pheeets fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Mar 7, 2013 |
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Authentic You posted:They replied directly to Scalzi's post too? They addressed their reply in part to him, yes. He's the president of SFWA. Pheeets fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Mar 7, 2013 |
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