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Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Rogue Ales to create beer using yeast from brewmaster's beard follicles

Rogue - biggest troll brewery or just assholes?

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Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Colorado easily has enough stuff to keep you occupied for a couple of weeks, and the Rockies are impressive and beautiful. I was there last fall for just 4 days (did Denver -> Aspen -> Fort Collins -> Denver), and if I was taking a 2 week trip anywhere in the US this year, it'd be going back to Colorado.

Additionally, depending on when exactly in the fall you came, you could possibly hit the GABF. http://www.greatamericanbeerfestival.com/

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Drank my first Drie Fonteinen Oude Kriek last night. Bottled May 31, 2009 - it had a distinct vinegary smell. Not overpowering, but definitely there, and carried over slightly to the taste. Would this be a normal component, or a product of oxidization? It didn't take away (much) from the beer, but it was noticeable. It was also basically uncarbed.

Ridiculously tart to begin with, but very smooth in the mouth with the cherries coming through as I held it, then finished off with another blast of tart as I swallowed. Very, very wine like, especially with the basically non-existent carbonation.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Great Divide Wolfgang dopplebock - would enjoy fasting on this beer.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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So tempted to drive down for this, even though I know it's going to be a massive clusterfuck. MM is crowded as hell on Friday nights anyway.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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FreelanceSocialist posted:

CCB will be in NC this fall, however.

Bout time

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Went to the Bell's Black Note thing at Mellow Mushroom in Greensboro after all, and it was pretty great! Not as bad of a crowd as I feared. Had to wait an hour for a table, but that just meant time for beer and appetizers at the bar.

Black Note is very, very on point...just excellently put together. Bourbon up front without it being overpowering and a nice chocolate note underneath is all. Very smooth and drinkable, and two of them got me insanely buzzed.

Once we got seated, I tried Lonerider's saison, The Preacher. Way too much banana for me, and wasn't nearly as dry and crisp as I'd prefer. Not up my alley, and I probably should have gotten a 3rd Black Note instead!

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Sitting at the bar drinking a $6 10oz pour of Mikkeller Warrior Single Hop. Pretty expensive for what tastes like a good, simple homebrew. A line up of a bunch of the single hops would be interesting, I guess, but the individual bottles are massively overpriced for what you get.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Hahaha, what's to "explain" about a beer tasting? He's going to have some crazy system set up with weights and measures and droppers to make sure everyone gets EXACTLY their 2 oz of beer per pour.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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danbanana posted:

Same question, different long sexy weekend with a different lady in a different city: Montreal. Any recommendations?

I'm traveling to Quebec later this year, so I've been doing a bunch of research on places there, and been getting some recommendations here. I'll just copy some of the Montreal beer relevant stuff:

Kreez posted:

Mostly I just stick to the brewpubs though. Dieu du Ciel is the obvious world famous one that you can't miss, but there's also Cheval Blanc, L'Amere a boire, and Reservoir which are my favourites. St Bock, Benelux, and Helm are pretty good too. I'd avoid the 3 brasseurs chain for the most part, though dropping in for a quick pint isn't a terrible idea. The food is horrible reheated junk now though.

Outside of Montreal, the trendiest places are probably Trou du Diable in Shawinigan, Charlevoix in Baie Saint-Paul, Hopfenstark in L'Assomption. Never visited these places though I've had some of their beers. Brasseurs du Temps in Gatineau is probably the only place I've been to outside of Montreal, and it's definitely worth a visit if you're anywhere near there. As for the others, I've never heard anyone complain about any of the brewpubs out in the country, they all seem pretty fantastic. The three I listed are distributing in small quantities all over the world due to their reviews.

Also, Vices et Versas was recommended to me somewhere as the best bar to go to to sample CA beers, they carry only CA microbrews on tap, 36 of them. The Canadian Brewing Awards might help you pick out the best they have on tap.

I just got back from Wilmington for vacation, and Front Street Brewing is making some really good beers. Really liked their Dram Tree Scottish Ale, and their Riptide Raspberry Wheat was actually an awesome fruit beer - really tasted like raspberry without being artificially cloying. And it was excellent for the 95+ degree weather.

They also had the winner of their homebrew contest on tap, which was a black double IPA that reminded me a lot of Duck-Rabbit's Hoppy Bunny. Both are one of the few examples of BIPA that I've ever really enjoyed enough to want more of.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Yea, Montreal has a ridiculous number of brewpubs in a small area. I'm really looking forward to it this fall.

Plus, they have cheap public transport! The company/agency that runs all the buses and subways has day passes (1-day and 3-day I believe) that give you unlimited access to all of them, so I'd definitely look into them for easy getting around.

Edit: day passes - http://www.stm.info/English/tarification/a-1a3jours.htm

Retemnav fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Jul 25, 2012

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Docjowles posted:

Any Goons going to Great American Beer Festival this year? Tickets go on sale this week. The wife and I are planning to be at the Saturday afternoon session for AHA/BA members.

Nope, but I heard that a bunch of the hotels are already sold out for it!

I was there last year during it, but didn't go to a session (business trip), and downtown was nuts whenever a session ended. Drunken stream of people with half-eaten pretzel necklaces.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Angry Grimace posted:

Your girlfriend's computer needs to run some better security.

Yea, pretty sure that's not an adblock thing, sounds like she's got something installed that's placing those links.

Also, lol suggesting New Glarus, c'mon that poo poo's hard as hell to get outside of WI.

Retemnav fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Aug 7, 2012

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Is DFH Festina Peche still out? Love it as a summery, refreshing beer.

21st Amendment Hell or High Watermelon is an interesting fruit beer. Thought it was weird and disgusting the first time I tried it, but drat, it really shines when you're out in the heat.

And speaking of raspberry tarts and WI, it's one of my best friends birthday's this weekend and I'm breaking out a New Glarus Raspberry Tart my boss brought me back from a family visit. Looking forward to it!

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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danbanana posted:

I prefer the Wisconsin Belgian Red, but NG makes my favorite fruit beers by far.

I have one of both...so maybe both of them will get opened! We've got a beerfest to go to, though.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Had a J.W. Lee's Moonraker last night, and that beer is so English it's like liquid England. What does tweed and fog taste like? This beer.

Had a Dieu du Ciel Route Des Espices tonight, and that's a delicious beer to have with grilled chicken and veggies. Rye and peppercorns, it has that pepper spiciness on the finish that is great with food. Can't wait to visit the brewery while I'm in Quebec.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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bartolimu posted:

The whole staff of Joseph James Brewing came in to give demos of their fresh batch of Habanero Hop Box. It's goddamn awesome, one of the best chile beers I've had. California people, you're going to get a fair bit of it. Seek it out, buy it, drink it. Just don't expect it to have no heat, it has habaneros in it.

More brewers need to do habanero beers. The habanero pepper flavor is so, so much better than other chiles (IMO). There's just something about it that matches perfectly with a hoppy pale ale. Yes, they are hot as hell, just add less of them.

There's a local brewer near me, Triangle Brewing, that does a habanero pale ale that is just perfect. They manage to get tons of the habanero flavor without much of the heat. It's got a nice spiciness to it, but nowhere near the level you'd expect from habaneros. Really, really wish they would can it.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Whodat Smith-Jones posted:

Ballast Point Habanero Sculpin was pretty good, I thought. One of the guys at their Home Brew Mart said that you can pretty much habanero-ize any beer by cutting a slit in 1 or 2 habaneros, putting them in a muslin bag or something similar inside a growler, and then taking the growler to get filled somewhere. Then let the beer sit in the growler for a day or two. He said it works pretty well. I haven't tried it myself, but I might some time in the future.

Hmmm, I'm going to have to try that! That also made me think about a Randall full of habaneros, and that just made me shudder.

My gf is in Seattle for the next week, what local bottled beers should I tell her to mule back for me?

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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I did not even know that Big Boss in Raleigh was doing a sour program, but I had their sour Hell's Biz'ness on tap yesterday, and drat that's a good sour! Highly recommend it if you're in NC and can find it.

Going to a local beer fest today, all NC brewers. They had a bit of a fuckup with the venue, so it's going to be interesting to see who shows up and how it goes...

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Valencia posted:

Where did you have that? I was at their taproom on Wednesday night and that definitely wasn't there; would have totally tried that if it was. Ended up trying their Saucey Pants saison though.

Also had that Oro de Calabaza and...it was amazing. There aren't sufficient words to describe how much it blew my mind.

City Beverage in Winston, they had a keg this friday along with a cask of their IPA with dry-hopped Falconer.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Anyone know Charleston's breweries? I've had Palmetto's beer before, but I've never been to their brewery. The other's I don't think I've ever even heard of, except maybe Westbrook.

COAST, Westbrook, Holy City, Southend. There is also apparently something called T-Bonz Gill, Grill and Brewery which seems to be owned by the same conglomerate that operates Liberty Steakhouse here in NC, which actually produces some really drat good beer (at least at their Hickory location).

Any recommendations? Going to be on the water a lot, so I doubt I'll get to hit more than a couple of them. A good bottle shop to pick up local stuff at would be awesome too.

Edit: Ah yea, just looked up Westbrook and I've heard people say good things about their Mexican Cake stout.

Retemnav fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Aug 21, 2012

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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I literally remembered about Charleston Beer Exchange right after I posted, I believe it's been mentioned before in here. I'll definitely swing by there to pick up some bottles of local stuff.

Looking up Westbrook's stuff, their bottle art is pretty awesome, if nothing else.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Got back from Charleston last night. Didn't get to visit many of the breweries, as we stayed on the water pretty much much all day, every day. Drank a huge number of Coors Lights, which are great for hot weather and you don't care when one busts in your cooler because the jet skis are getting the poo poo pounded out of them on the sound, thanks Irene.

Only made it out to Holy City, as it was the closest one to where we were staying, and they've got a cool thing going. Just a big warehouse/shed out behind a Kawasaki dealership, you can walk right up to the tanks, lean against the malt next to the bar, and they had a band going Friday afternoon. They had 4 of their beers on tap, a porter, pils, golden/Belgian ale and what they called a dark ale. The dark ale was the only one that stood out, the rest were good but nothing mind-blowing. The dark ale was very reminiscent of Duck-Rabbit's Hoppy Bunny, and I love the direction they took the "black IPA". Very roasty, but also lots of fresh, grassy hop flavors. Their blackboard said $5 for 4/4oz tasters and you kept the pint glass, but in practice they were pouring half-pints and it looked like you could pretty much go back as many times as you wanted. Plus I bought a hat and they only charged me for that and not the taster. So they get high marks for being cool folks in my book.

Stayed in town on Sunday specifically to go to the Charleston Beer Exchange and picked up a sixer of Westbrook's White Thai, as well as some bombers of their Ninja Citrus DIPA and Coast's HopArt IPA. Awesome store. Probably gonna hold off a few days on drinking any of them though, because drat, I'm worn out and kinda beer-logged.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Valencia posted:

Really annoyed that my car is in the shop today, as the Saucer has a cask of mango habanero Dale's on tonight and that sounds like it would have been really fun to try. I highly, highly doubt they will have any left over tomorrow night but if they do I'll be sure to try it. Tomorrow they have Sierra Nevada Ovila on tap, so I'm definitely going to get in on some of that.

Saw on twitter that the Dale's cask tapped in 5 minutes. Must have been a madhouse!

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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XxGirlKisserxX posted:

Must've been a small cask.

Said 170 served, so I'm guessing the guy was a little hyperbolic on the 5 minutes thing.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Manky posted:

Choklat was on a nitro tap, and to this day I've never seen a beer that could accurately be described as oozing from the tap. It was the most chocolatey beer I've had by a factor of about a billion, though.

Choklat is like drinking a glass of melted M&M's.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Foothills just announced that the 2012 Sexual Chocolate release was going to be this weekend. Seems like they really sprung it this year, last year I was pretty sure they had a several week run-up to the release? Haven't heard if they've increased capacity again this year. Goes on tap at the pub 9/7 at 6 pm, with the bottle release starting the next morning at 10 am.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Finally opened my New Glarus Raspberry Tart over the weekend, in celebration of the return of NFL football, and now I'm sad because the Panthers lost badly and I don't have any more Raspberry Tart. It was so, so good though.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Back from Quebec and had an incredible time up there. The micro-brewery scene is hopping, and if I had not wanted to do such lame things as "sightsee" and "take in local culture," I could have easily spent the entire 8 days going from brewery to brewery. Still, I managed to fit in several great spots.

Montreal:
Reservoir - first place I visited because it was only a few blocks from where my friends and I were staying. Pretty typical brewpub, it was crowded on a Thursday night for their happy hour. This ended just after we got there and it cleared out some at that point. They had 6 or 7 on tap. Good beer but nothing outstanding. My favorite was their stout, Noire A L'Avoine, it was a big, extremely roasty stout.

Dieu du Ciel - drat, this lived up to the hype and then some. Went on Friday around 7, afraid it was going to be packed, but there were two tables open and we grabbed one. Peche Mortel was what I was there for, and it was very good. However, two of their other beers absolutely blew Peche away, for me. #2 - Chemin de Croix, which they described as an "Old East India Porter". Basically a really roasty Black IPA or ABA, it reminded me a lot of Duck Rabbit's Hoppy Bunny, except better. And #1 - Corpus Christi, a rye beer, and the absolute best rye beer I've ever had. Rye is one of my favorite styles, so this was an amazing and awesome discovery, and it's probably a good thing that I did not notice it was a rye beer until we'd sampled a bunch of the other beers, because once I got a sip of this, I wasn't drinking anything else for the night.

The other beer I remember was their 6ieme Soir, an Imperial Pilsner, mostly because I think making a 8-9% pilsner is stupid and others I've tried were not very good. However, that thing was amazing. Nailed the pilsner crispness and totally hid the 8.5%. I still think it's a stupid style, but it's a style they nailed.

Everything was at least very good to excellent, though, and only paled because I was comparing them to a couple of beers I'd put in my top 10 list without hesitation.

Vices et Versa - unfortunately went to this after having my mind blown at Dieu du Ciel, so I don't remember a whole lot. It was a nice place, big tap list of all QC beers, crowded but not packed, and we got a table after 15-20 minutes at the bar. I had the Hopfenstark Saison 55, which was good. After that, I sort of lost track and my phone was dying so I didn't record what I had. Nothing was as good as DDC though. The poutine with shredded pork was drat good drunk food, though.

Quebec City:
Corsaire - Stopped in at around 11:30 AM because we'd caught the ferry over and it was deserted. Bartender was the brewer, and he was a nice guy. Between us we sampled everything he had on tap (around 10 beers) and it was some solid stuff. Had a few standards and a few weird ones (never seen a lingonberry beer before!). The Davy Jones stout and the Frere Kirke session IPA were the best of the bunch, and I got him to make me a Black & Tan using them that was pretty awesome.

L'Inox - Very hip bar in the middle of the parliment/financial district, but the beer was disappointing. Transat, their APA, was decent, but the 3 others they had on were very blah. An ESB, witbeer and a pilsner, I believe. They were pretty forgettable.

Bateau de Nuit - A little college/dive bar with an awesome bartender and 8 taps of all Quebec microbreweries. Hard to find, but worth it. Sebastian loves his beer and will talk your ear off, and he was really apologetic that he didn't have a cask on that night (a Tuesday). This is about as local as you can get in Quebec City. A group of Seperationist students were holding a rally, singing protest songs, and giving speeches about Quebec becoming their own seperate country. A big group of them ended up talking to us until about 4 AM. I don't think it'll ever happen, but they were some passionate guys and it was fun chatting with them. They were especially interested in the American Civil War and our view of that since we were from the South.

It was a really nice tap selection covering a range from pilsners up to stouts. Had a Bromont (a brewery I'd never even heard of in my research on QC breweries) Amiral Nelson (IPA w/ Nelson Sauvin) that was awesome. Sebastian invited us back for an all-IPA event he was having the next night, and I was seriously disappointed we had to get back to Montreal that day.

Random other stuff:
Boreale IPA - very good citrusy, west-coast style IPA.
Boreale Blonde - pretty solid pale ale, went well with several dinners.
Boreale Blanche - a good white/wit beer with lots of ginger spice (QC LOVES ginger beers...must have seen 4 or 5 examples)
Brasseurs du Monde L'Exploite - thought it was a coffee stout, it was actually a coffee milk stout. I've just never been a big fan of milk stouts, but this was pretty solid. Lot of vanilla and coffee.
Les Brasseurs RJ Cheval Blanc - Eh, forgettable. Tasted like a beer.

Anyway, if you have the chance, I highly recommend Quebec as a vacation/beer-tour destination! The food is good, the beer is good, and the people were uniformly super friendly. It's a bit expensive, but totally worth it.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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What does ABV have to do with a beer being a pale ale vs. an indian pale ale? The classic IPA is just a pale ale with lots of hops added to preserve it, the amount of alcohol in it has nothing to do with the style?

Due to American breweries love of hops, APA's tend to share more in common with an IPA than old style british pale ales. But that's still a function of bitterness, not ABV? Would you consider Lagunitas Daytime a pale ale since it's low ABV?

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Tigren posted:

Twist off can? How does that work?

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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funkybottoms posted:

god. drat.

surely a BA rap-oriented gimmick poster is the seventh seal, yes?

I've followed him on Twitter for a while, it's a pretty dumb gimmick.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Oh, Chocolate Oak Aged Yeti, you are so good.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Docjowles posted:

New Belgium is massively expanding their barrel program so I expect we will see more Le Terroir down the road. I sure hope so because it is loving perfect. But it may take several years, such is the nature of sour beers :smith:

When I did the NB tour, I used one cap on a sampler of Le Terrior, and in retrospect I should have used them all on it, because I've not had it since. Great sour, I really hope the expanded program produces a lot of it.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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The local Mellow Mushroom is tapping Bell's "This one goes to 11" and Foothill's 2011 Sexual Chocolate next week. Gonna be a good Tuesday night, hopefully I'm over this drat cold by then because I can't taste a drat thing right now.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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I loving LOVE Modus Hoperandi, but every single other Ska beer I've tried has been underwhelming, to the point I've stopped trying any of their other stuff when it comes out. Still buy some Modus like once a month though.

And if you want a stronger, spicier stout, you can't go wrong with Great Divide's Chocolate Oak Aged Yeti. Not that Cocoa Mole isn't good too.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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cereal eater posted:

MD county insanity

Holy poo poo, thanks for writing that up. Always fun to hear about the craziness that sometimes gets made into law at the local level.

When I was in college, the town the actual college was in was dry, even though the next town over (10 min. away) was not. However, someone found out that the town had an exception made for the country club that you could serve drinks if and only if you were a "sporting club" or something like that, because rich old dudes aren't going to NOT have a drink after a round. Anyway, they opened up a "sports club" right across the street from the college. It had one blacktop "tennis court" surrounded by orange construction plastic fence. Never saw anyone play tennis, but they got to serve alcohol within walking distance of thousands of college kids!

At least for a while. I'm pretty sure that after I left, the town got it shut down through some OTHER loophole they introduced.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Just finished a 'this one goes to 11' with my dinner, tucking into a 2011 Sexual Chocolate. 11 was good, but the SC is loving great. Wishing now I'd gotten out of bed to buy bottles last year.

Foothill/Duck Rabbit/Olde Hickory's Olde Rabbit's Foote release is coming up in about a month, and I think I'll carve out that morning to go stand in line.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Had Dieu du Ciel's barleywine, Solstice d'hiver, last night. Interesting take on the style, a lot more bitterness than I've had in any other barleywine. Great fireside sipper.

Also got to try Olde Hickory's Lindley Park stout. It's their base imperial stout aged on raspberries. Very good, mainly because their base stout is drat good. The raspberries were really subdued and came in just a tiny bit on the finish, made it a bit like a dessert without being too sweet, I could have drank a few easily.

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Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
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Trader Joe's just opened in my town and I picked up some of the Mission St IPA. That's the one that is contract brewed by Firestone Walker, right?

Also, a new place opened up that has a "pour your own" beer wall. You pay for a token with 32 oz. on it, then you can pour as much or as little of each beer as you want. Apparently it's only the 3rd of it's type in the US.

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