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LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Owithey posted:

Well, that's good to hear at least. There are plenty of inventive beers around here and it's pretty easy to get the European beers as well. I just hope that trend isn't going towards beers with the same kind of pricing as wines, with a artificially inflated premium level of beer.

The important thing to remember is that even though these expensive beers can be rare and special, there are unbelievable beers being brewed everywhere that are not being marketed into ridiculous scarcity and are nearly as good.

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LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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lazerwolf posted:

Did you at least ask how the lacing was?

Is it quite as douchey to call it a sweaty taste? Because I do that and want to make sure its ok.

It's almost Collette season!

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Arnold of Soissons posted:

When I first had an Orval (after reading Brewmaster's Table) I smelled it and immediately thought "ah, that's the horseblanket then, I can see that"

Orval :swoon: so delicious.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Quiet Feet posted:

Is that out again? I thought they discontinued it for Alpine Spring, which is actually really good but pissed me off because I had Noble Pils all of once and kept missing it since spring is apparently late January through mid-march now. :argh:

I thought Alpine Spring was replacing it in the Seasonal beers, and Noble Pils was going to be produced year round.

I hope I'm right. :ohdear:

For the record, I like Alpine Spring, but it can't hold Noble Pils' jock.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Ridonkulous posted:

at Brewvival this year they had 90 minute Randallized through habaneros and bacon. It was a good novelty beer and very spicy but not something I would buy bottled.

I couldn't make it this year, I had to work. :negative:

Of course last year I got so drunk I drank a can of 4Loko to wake up, blacked out before 9pm and ended up doing tequila shots at Surf Bar until 4am. I love knowing the owners of a bar really well.


In OYSTER STOUT NEWS (DUM DUM DUMMMMMMM)

Here is an expose' of local COAST brewery's Bulls Bay Oyster Stout....interesting info for the osmoconformerphobic.......

Interesting Read: God Bless the Lowcountry

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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:suicide:

I have tasted the abyss, and I can assure you...I did not find my character.

I have tasted the most horrifying beer created by man. Only a quarter-sip passed my lips before I drainpoured it and promptly downed one of my last remaining Hopslams to forget the horror.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/11031/75365

Horror, your name is Bed and Breakfast.

To adequately describe it, imagine urine run through old coffee grounds and cigarette ash.

I will never tell my friend that gave it as a gift how bad it was, but holy gently caress! Never make this mistake, fellow goons. NEVER.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Paul Proteus posted:

I thought I posted about this the other day...

My local store had a tasting of this, their Amarillo and their barleywine for free. I can honestly say it was one of the worst beers I have ever had. The ashiness is overpoweringly bad on such a light beer and it was extremely carbonated, so much so it stung my tongue. It was even more ridiculous too considering the Amarillo IPA and barleywine were absolutely fantastic.

Sorry, didn't see it.

I'm glad someone else has experienced the acrid, mouth-making GBS threads taste of this beer so that we may corroborate our stories and prevent others from making this mistake.

:hf:

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Midorka posted:



Coming soon! I'm going to pick up a St. Bernadus ABT 12 and a Rochefort 10 and have a fun night when I get the West 12.

Abt 12 :swoon:

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Docjowles posted:

It's not mind blowingly awesome but I really enjoy it as a daily drinker. And at like $8 vs $11 for Prima Pils out here, I'll take New Belguim's offering.

I know it isn't cool to like New Belgium in here, but the consistency of their beer is pretty amazing. I still like their Tripel better than Allagash's :colbert:

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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CalvinDooglas posted:

I don't get why it's highly regarded at all. I gave Midorka a hard time about the same thing with his expensive lambic, but the 120 Min is one of those beers that people will just suck up and finish, even if they know it sucks. Nobody wants to be the guy that doesn't "get" an expensive, hyped beer. Even when it's objectively terrible people will say "hmm yes I can see the appeal" instead of saying what they really think.

It is a bizarre thing about craft beer culture.

I'd rather just grab a 10$ St Bernardus than waste my time on a more expensive beer I don't enjoy.

I'll try any beer once, but I'm not going to keep drinking it because it's chic.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Docjowles posted:

I meet people regularly to whom Fat Tire is literally the name of the brewery. If I ask if they mean New Belgium, they're like, "who?". I'm sure there are many thousands of people in Boston who'd be surprised to learn there are Sam Adams beers outside of "Sam", "Sam Lite", "Sam Summer" and maybe Oktoberfest. I think it might be the Beer Geek Blinder thing again. We know New Belgium puts out a shitload of beers, but the one tap they get at Applebees or whatever the gently caress is Fat Tire, not La Folie or Ranger or Tripel.

Yeah, very true. The concept of a brewery producing a diaspora of quality styles is lost on the American public. Most of them think variety is Bud, Bud Select, Bud Ice, Bud Light ("WHAT VARIETY!!" :fsmug:)

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Mahoning posted:

Samuel Adams' Facebook had a link to this story today, I thought it was interesting.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/story/2012-03-04/cnbc-sunoco-beer/53323880/1

Basically, Sunoco stations are putting Growler stations inside the gas station and rotating different craft beers.

Since in a lot of places growler stations are hard to come by, this is good news even though at the moment it is only being expanded to South Carolina.

Please let it come to Ohio. :ohdear:

Bonus: lots of "great this just means more drinking and driving!"-type comments below the story! Because as we all know, you're more likely to drink out of a giant glass jug while driving, than drinking out of the convenient and discreet 12 oz. bottles they already sell at gas stations. ugh.

They have this here in SC, and the growlers are supremely overpriced. I'm talking 20$ for Ranger or Fat Tire.

My local bottle shops usually sling premium beer 14-20$, with local favorites 10-14$.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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funkybottoms posted:

you ever make it over to the Greenville Beer Exchange? hoping to hit in on my way back to VA.

I haven't been to the Greenville one, but I live in Charleston and frequent the Charleston Beer Exchange. My fiance' lives on lower King so I usually walk down to Exchange St when I stay down there. Number one bottle shop in the US :rock:

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Vertigo posted:

Thank You. I was was wondering if it was something like a 60/90 minute thing or something more. drat. I loved Sculpin last night when I had it, and was hoping Big Eye would have been a similiar experience (since I can get it)

Strangely, Sculpin is hard to procure in Charleston, SC of all places, but I rarely see Big Eye.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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funkybottoms posted:

some of the Mission beers are pretty well-regarded; i certainly enjoy Dark Seas quite a bit.

the final stop of the trip was Greenville Beer Exchange, which we were supposed to hit on the way down, and goddamn is that a good shop. dunno if he's the manager or part-owner, but Zach, the younger guy running the place, really knew his poo poo, and after we talked for a few and he figured i wasn't a beer speculator (and we trashed one particular BA member who happens to come to his shop a lot), he pulled a bunch of awesome poo poo out of the back room for me. made his day when i swapped what is apparently a Europe-only bottle of Cantillon for the US version and gave him a bottle from VA that he'd never had before, so he gave me a t-shirt. doubt i'll wear it, but i appreciate the gesture and highly recommend checking the place out (their location in Charleston does online orders if that's not possible).

Glad you liked it. I'm not sure if the two are owned by same guys or what, but they are an amazing group. Represent the T-shirt! Those guys deserve all the advertisement they can get. I send everyone there.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Wamsutta posted:

He types like he's writing lyrics.

Poetry.
With a beat.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Kosher man posted:

When I was first interviewing for jobs and trying to get into the industry I found the worst I dressed the better the chances of a job offer were.

Some friends and I have pipedreams (legitimately may happen...sink or swim) of opening a commercial brewery, and I am looking forward to living life with the beard of my former life. I had to shave it off for EMS. :negative:

I can't wait to go to work in purely utilitarian dress. :3:

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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BoredByThis posted:

That beer was a great slice of brewing philosophy. DFH makes it centered on the oddball ingredients, Stone makes a heavily resinous hop centered saison, while the Victory focused on making each of the ingredients show up in a balanced and refreshing beer.

Don't forget Colette! Colette is my favorite saison (domestic) in existence, more or less. Helios is pretty great when its fresh, but its generally neglected in my neck of the woods.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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BoredByThis posted:

Oh, I was just talking about the fact that it took the same brewing concept, style, and adjunct ingredients and handed them to breweries with three distinct brewing philosophies, and three distinct beers very indicative of those philosophies came out. I never forget Colette.

This is of the utmost importance.

And yeah, I misread. :doh:

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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SUPER HASSLER posted:

After having toured through pretty much all of the South, I've come to the conclusion that NC, TN, KY and LA is the "cool" South and alcohol is more than a decent part of that reason.

(OK, urban GA, too.)

heyheyhey.....charleston and greenville are pretty awesome, even if the rest of the state blows.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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FreelanceSocialist posted:

Yeah - it's the 17th Anniversary DIPA. I think it is aged in oak barrels rather than on chips/etc.

edit: Conflicting sources. Their site states nothing more than "French and American Oak".

They have an 18th anniversary as well, same deal as far as I could tell. My buddy brought it over for a brew night and we didn't make it to it.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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SUPER HASSLER posted:

TX may be 3-tier, but at least you can go to a supermarket and buy a bottle of Chimay and enjoy TRUE FREEDOM. :clint: (Unless it's Sunday morning.)

3-tier :negative:

I hate being restricted in how much I can buy directly from a brewery. What a hosed up way to force the creation of an unnecessary industry.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Phanatic posted:

Sure it is. Just not in bottles. We get Elder on draft in Philly not constantly, but with some regularity, and we get Younger on rare occasions.

:argh:

I've had it once. I found a slightly out of season bottle once while I was in Aspen. Very good, but certainly not the white unicorn it is perceived to be. Having said that, I would have a perma-erection if I had it on tap here in Chas.

Am I going to be slapped if I think Golden Monkey is better than Allagash's Tripel? I know the Allagash is much revered, but that's two domestic tripel's I like better (New Belgium and Victory).

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Stroop There It Is posted:

Question for all: what is the best beer to go along with spring/summer grilling?

I'm thinking something crisp and light, maybe citrusy. Like Sam Adams Alpine Spring, if it stood out more.

I had been resisting New Belgium's Shift Pale Lager, thinking it was a mass-appeal beer.

I'm not ashamed to say that I was wrong.

I put it on-par with Alpine Spring or Noble Pils. Very good hoppy-lager that went perfectly with my fishing/grilling day yesterday.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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funkybottoms posted:

drank my bottle of Westbrook's Mexican Cake this evening and i'm not sure i've had a sweeter beer outside of Southern Tier. like, if i took a sip and then licked my lips, i could taste sweet. the beer had a fair amount of roastiness, along with a lot of vanilla, but the sweetness was really too much and the peppers couldn't do enough in the finish to balance it out. interesting, but not that great.

Where did you get that? I didn't know westbrook distributed much beyond charleston.

I can't lie.....I haven't had anything from them I really liked. Ipa is watery is gently caress, belgians are boring. Their white thai is refreshing enough to get hammered on when its 90 out, but too expensive to do so.

Such a shame that beautiful brewery goes go waste.

Edited to say that I love Berliner Weisses, and if I see lichtenhainer around ill give it a shot.

LeeMajors fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Apr 17, 2012

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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funkybottoms posted:

picked it up when i was passing through Greenville.

Oh I forgot that was you. Those beer Exchange guys have a megahardon for westbrook stuff.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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SUPER HASSLER posted:

Hey how did you guess my beer history so accurately like that? Just when I'm getting back into pilsners, too...

That seems to be everyone's trajectory--although I've sort of combined my belgians/sours with milder german styles.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Hopefully with the renewed interest in sessionable beers, we will see more Berliner Weisse. Between Oarsman and Howling Wolf I've really grown to appreciate that crispness.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Wamsutta posted:

I'm not as accomplished a beer nerd as a lot of people here so I'm still into really hoppy boozy stuff but I'm branching out more and am starting to enjoy pilsners, browns, and what have you a bit. :)

It doesn't mean you aren't accomplished. There's lots of raging douchebaggery when it comes to bombastic styles, but I think it is part of almost every beer enthusiast's taste evolution. I was guilty of it somewhat when I first discovered big IPAs (self proclaimed hophead at one time :blush:).

One thing that made me appreciate basically all beer was learning how to brew. Putting your hands in the process really gives you an idea of how hard it is to balance all these flavors and do it consistently.

Hopefully the 'beer snob' will start going away if the industry does move toward the session beer.

Plus, I live near the beach--big beers are hard to drink all day in Summer weather. Sessionables, ACTIVATE!

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Wamsutta posted:

I guess accomplished was the wrong word. I pretty much discovered IPAs and grabbed hold of hoppy stuff and that's what I drink 99% of the time.

I misread it. :downsbravo:

A well balanced IPA is about my favorite beer in the world. There's just a saturation point.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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crazyfish posted:

The first time I had Oarsman I was pretty disappointed in it, but then again I really didn't know anything about what it was supposed to be when I bought it. Maybe I'll get a 6 pack of Oarsman and find another berliner to compare against.

If I hadn't had any idea, I would've been pretty confused. It lived up to what I expected though--which was a low-abv, crisp and slightly tart Berliner. I love it.

Also, to the saison comment above ^^^, I will never tire of espousing my love of Colette. :swoon:

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Kudosx posted:

In OH you can buy beer and kegs directly from breweries, too. I know I have bought beer from just about every brewery in NEOH directly from their brewery, or adjoined brewpub.

It makes me sad that some people are generally unaffected by three-tier systems and I'm not one of them.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Wamsutta posted:

"That man makes beer for a company whose ultimate parent has affiliations with AB-Inbev. YES I THINK HE DESERVED TO DIE AND I HOPE HE BURNS IN HELL"
- Beer Nerd

That is a shameful loving comment.

This guy is the worst person.

bartolimu posted:

Funky Buddha. Funky Buddha. Funky Buddha. Repeat these words until they become a meditation.

I'd never heard of them before they were at EBF this year, but they were seriously loving impressive. Even their gimmick beer, Crustless, was great. The passionfruit Berlinerweiss was my hands-down favorite session beer there. Yes, Cigar City is great and worth checking out, but Funky Buddha is even harder to find and really is spectacular. Drink a lot of both.

I haven't had them, but a buddy of mine had their beer at Brewvival and LOVED it. He raved about it for weeks.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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I know Westy 12 is supposed to be incredible, but I can't imagine sitting in line and paying that much for it. Why not just pick up a Westmalle or a St Bernardus Abt12 for 10-20$ and enjoy available, delicious beer that isn't on a huge cash-grab?

I thought part of the Westy mystique was the rarity? Great belgian quads are readily available.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Angry Grimace posted:

The simple answer is rarity. I can go to the store and buy Westmalle or St. Bernardus any day of any year. The rarity doesn't make the beer better, but its the experience of getting to try one of the most mysterious and well regarded beers of all time.

Oh, I would love to try one someday, but I guess I get weirded out by the hype. Like people that spend hours and hours tracking down Pliny the Younger when there are super-amazing IPAs abounds in the US. Yeah, I'd love to try it once or something, but sit down and enjoy a Green Flash at your leisure instead. Enjoy your life.

I'm not trying to be one of 'those guys,' saying some beer is overhyped. I know they're amazing. But goddrat, some of those lines were insane.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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TenaciousTomato posted:

I have spent hundreds of dollars already on readily-available Belgians, don't you worry :colbert:

Me too. It's an illness.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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wattershed posted:

So, tl;dr version, I can be told it's going to be close to, not as good, or slightly better than St. Bernardus 12, but in order to have my own opinion on it I have to experience it myself.

I agree. I'm not condemning the beer; more the hype train.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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wattershed posted:

As a fun side project I'm going to watch the BA and RB stats on Westy - see if the overall rating goes down at all as it's more exposed to the world. It's nobody's fault it's popular, as its reputation precedes itself. I respect the Abbey's choice to only export when they need to, and it's for a good cause, so any hesitation about the price was alleviated rather quickly.

That leaves the small part of the actual obtaining of the beer, which for myself and what seems like a few others around here appeared to be a painless process. I parked terribly out in front of the store this morning, thought I might have gotten a ticket, and some homeless lady was peering into my boxes to see what was so important in there, but that was the extent of my havoc. Ho hum.

My suspicion is that most will try this delicious, heavily-lauded beer and will be disappointed that it isn't empirically better than St. Bernardus or what-have-you.

Then the BA rating will slump because the perpetually-underwhelmed hipster-douche beersnobs will tear it to pieces while stroking their ironically huge beards and horn-rimmed glasses.

Sad days for all. I hope I am wrong.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

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Bag of Sun Chips posted:

Instead people who have never even had a quad will be amazed at how good it is because they know it's rare/expensive (like my somewhat-unaware friend who heard about it on NPR and wants me to share a bottle with him).

I hope so. Quads are amazing, but can be a bit complex/inaccessible if you don't have a concept of what you're drinking. :swoon: though.

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Jan 20, 2005

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Arnold of Soissons posted:

$90 for 6 is $15 a bottle, so right in the middle of your "reasonable" $10 - 20. And the cash grab is literally to rebuild an abbey for the monks who live there.

I don't blame anyone for not wanting to shell out around a hundred bucks for some beer, but it's not ridiculous.

Yeah, but the inability to buy a single 750 is a deterrent from shelling out the extra for a block of three to six.

I didn't realize the release was geared specifically to rebuild the abbey. Cash-grab is not an appropriate way to say it.

I'll still check around for some, I just think beer release hype has gotten ridiculous.

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