jase1 posted:http://www.boulevardbarandgrille.com/menu.html Oh, the Boulevard! That's funny, they also own Dak's on Euclid Avenue in Wickliffe; I used to sing karaoke, there. Thanks, I'll have to stop in there sometime soon.
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Amazing thread Jase, loving all the stories. Can't wait for the next one.
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Last night is Vegas is always the best night or the worst night. It just depends how stuck I am for the trip, if I have lost a lot of money then sometimes I just cool it on the gambling and go sit by the pool and get drunk all day. This trip I was up a little bit so I figured I would spend most of the day playing poker. So after a nice breakfast me and Hip headed over to the Venetian poker room my #1 choice for poker in Vegas. Sit down at 2/5 table with 1k and in the first hand I get KK and we get it all in and the other guy has QQ and I double up to 2k in less than 10 minutes. Nothing really exciting happens for the next 4 hours I just basically grind out a few small wins on small pots and my stack is around $2200 when I get dealt KK again. I raise it to $15 and I get one caller who is this old guy who just a huge frown on his face. He looked like a local because they are usually unhappy and pissed off because of tourists or whatever but the whole time he sat at the table he never said a word. He was there before me and had a stack of about 3k when I sat down and he basically stared at the table the whole time with a sour look on his face. The flop comes down QJ10 and I bet out $30 and he raises me to $60. I already know no matter what this guy has I am willing to risk it all because I have top pair and open ended straight draw. I think about it for a minute and then look at the guy and say "i'm not going anywhere so I am going to raise you once more and if you reraise me I am pushing all in." I grab $120 out of my stack and push it forward and before my hands are even off the chips he says all in. My read tells me he has AA and I should fold but I already gave a speech so I would look like a douche and I already had my mind made up I was going all the way with this hand. So I think about it for 2 minutes and push all in. He has me covered so we are looking at roughly a $4400 pot. The whole table lights up with excitement as a big hand is going down and the guy looks at me and says his first words. "Do you want to run it more than once?" I don't remember if I have ever explained this before but awhile ago when poker was hot poo poo on T.V. all the pros in the super high stakes games would run the turn and river 2 or 3 or 4 times. It helps if you are against a drawing hand so a guy has a pair and someone else has a flush draw the guy with the pair will want to run it more than once to prevent the other guy from sucking out on him. I never run it more than once, I hate it always have and I always will I feel like you made your bed now lie in it and I do. So I tell the guy I never run it more than once and he mutters something under his breath that I can't understand and he flips his cards over to reveal he has AA just like I thought. I flip mine to show him that I am on a draw and he gives me this look of disappointment. I shrug my shoulders and say I love to gamble that's why I am here. The turn is a 2 which helps nothing and the river is a an A and the old man gives a little fist pump and kinda walks away from the table for a second. I thought he was super pissed because I sucked out on him. So now the dealer starts to grab his chips that he put out in front of him and slide them in my direction when the old guy comes back to the table and yells at the dealer "What the gently caress are you doing?". The dealer tells him that I won the pot with a straight and she slides the chips my direction. The guy stands up and yells floor at the top of his lung and the Mike the poker manager comes over and asks what the problem is. The old guy starts to explain but Mike cuts him off and says he wants to hear from the dealer first. The dealer explains the whole hand and says what happened then the old guy gets his turn. He says that the dealer misread the board and the flop was QJJ and he should have won the hand. I interrupt and tell the guy he is either lying or he misread the board because there was only one jack. The guy gets super pissed and walks all the way around the table and bends over to meet me eye to eye while I am still in my seat and gets in my face and says "Are you calling me a liar?". I stand up and because I am 6' 1" I tend to be taller than most people and this guy was probably only 5'6" at the most. So when I stand up I am looking down at him and tell him to back off. He just bumps his chest into mine and I tell Mike that I am not about to hit an old man but can you do something before he gets hurt. Mike tells the guy to calm down and he says sir we have cameras everywhere here and this hand will be on the camera so if you want we can verify it upstairs. He says yes and they walk away and the dealer says that he swears there was only one jack on the board on the flop. I agree with him and then ask a couple of other players at the table and they all agree that this old guy is loving nuts. So after about 45 minutes the guy comes back to the table grabs his chips walks all the way around the table and stands right behind me. I am getting dealt a hand at that exact moment and I pay no attention to him. I look at my hand decide I don't like it and fold. As I am pushing my cards forward I feel this hand reach across my left arm and it's the old man and he grabs a hand full of blacks and starts to run away. He makes it about 10 steps before he is tackled by a security guy who came out of nowhere and they pick the guy up make him empty his hands which he does and take him away. All the commotion kinda stopped play in the poker room and now I have no clue how much the guy took. So I count my stack and find out I am $500 short and I tell the dealer I am going to cash out and go handle this and he tells me to sit tight. He says they will look at the cameras and figure out how much he took and return it to me. So I sit there patiently playing a few small hands here and there and about another hour later Mike shows up with 6 blacks and says this is what the guy took. I tell him I thought it was 5 blacks but he corrects me and says it's 6 blacks so shut up and take it. I laugh a little bit and get the idea they either gave me more than they should have or I just counted wrong. I am pretty sure they gave me $100 extra for my troubles but there was so much going on I really don't know. I play for about 3 or 4 more hours and grind out small pots and I end up cashing out $5250 to basically negate my pool hustling loss the night before. We go to dinner that night at Nobu and we stuff our faces with some great tasting expensive food. We then go to the bar back at the Palazzo and end up drinking till we can't drink anymore and pas out upstairs in the room. All in all it was a great Vegas trip and I can't wait to go back again. Next up my annual birthday party at the Fox and Hound with a reappearance of Tom DV, who hysterically has earned the nickname in the poker group of Tom Douchebag Vagina. jase1 fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Aug 12, 2013 |
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A slight nitpick but running it more than once doesnt exactly prevent you from sucking out on him, it just reduces variance so you come closer to realizing your actual % equity in the pot. With a pair and open ender you have around 25% chance of winning that pot, so if you kept shuffling the deck and running it over and over and over you would eventually win the 25% of the pot that youre "owed" and he would win the other 75%. Its a very good idea to minimize short term swings since you get to play very few hands per hour in a live cash game, so if you want to reduce the gambliness of it then you can run it a few times. But then as you said since youre a gambler who is shipping your entire stack knowing you have the worst hand just for the sake of gambling thats kind of the opposite of what you want Playing against the passive old men who are just sitting there waiting for AA or KK is the best way to pay for a vegas trip. If he had just reraised you preflop you wouldve ended up probably all-in preflop with him as a big favorite but instead he just flat calls for $15 and then shoves $2000 in a super connected flop just so he can grumble about how unlucky he is and how he always loses with aces. Ive never had one literally reach over and steal some chips though, that guy has balls
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Yeah you explained it better a lot better than I could. There is a lot of stuff that I have no clue about in poker and a lot of the people I play with around the area are internet players. They sit there and analyze a hand that was played a week ago for hours and I think to myself who the gently caress cares about how you 4 bet a guy with A8 and you were +ev or whatever the gently caress they say. These guys talk all this poo poo about how they play poker and use all the strategy terms and they are working at Lowes to pay the bills. None of them play for a living so it's weird to hear all this crazy strategy and terminology. I do see the reason why people do it but then I feel like you are playing with scared money. Why call in the first place if you are scared your gonna lose, thats the whole loving point of gambling in the first place. I think people do it because they saw pros do it on the High Stakes poker show. Anyways enough with the dumb rant.
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Won't argue with the running it twice part; honestly, it really doesn't matter. On the other hand, I enjoy poker because I enjoy playing games and having an edge and all that. Basically, I'm not actually gambling, I'm playing a card game just as I play bridge and hearts and whatever, it just so happens it's poker and it's for money. Fun game either way to be honest.
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silvergoose posted:Won't argue with the running it twice part; honestly, it really doesn't matter. Not to get all technical on you but you are gambling, you are putting money into a pot without knowing the outcome so it's gambling. There may be some skill involved to reduce your variance or whatever but at the end of the day it's still gambling. I have the most fun playing poker than anything else.
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jase1 posted:Not to get all technical on you but you are gambling, you are putting money into a pot without knowing the outcome so it's gambling. There may be some skill involved to reduce your variance or whatever but at the end of the day it's still gambling. Oh no, I'm aware I'm gambling. What I'm saying is that my mindset is that I enjoy the game aspect more than the gambling aspect as such. Basically, just trying to disagree with your assertion that focusing on the odds makes the game unfun; it's simply a difference of how one enjoys the game. As I said, though, your way is definitely fun too.
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It just depends what you mean by gambling. If a guy offers me a coin flip where heads = I lose 5 bucks, and tails = I win 15 bucks, ill probably sit there all day doing it over and over. Even though im putting 5 bucks into the pot every time on a 50% chance, I have a definitive edge so its not much of a gamble. Is it gambling for the casino to run a roulette table? Theyre technically putting all their money up for grabs not knowing if players will win, its just that they have the bankroll to survive bad swings and overall the game gives an edge to the house, so I wouldnt really consider it gambling on the part of the casino Poker is definitely a game of skill, even though theres gamble to it. Tons of people, including people on this forum make their living playing poker full time. They usually play thousands and thousands of hands a day and come out consistently winning over the course of millions of hands so luck is no longer much of a factor. But the entire reason its possible to make a living playing poker is because its a really fun game, and in the short term people can gamble it up and win, so you get lots of recreational money in the player pool. If it werent fun and gambly then the more skilled people wouldnt have anyone to make money off of
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manyak posted:It just depends what you mean by gambling. If a guy offers me a coin flip where heads = I lose 5 bucks, and tails = I win 15 bucks, ill probably sit there all day doing it over and over. Even though im putting 5 bucks into the pot every time on a 50% chance, I have a definitive edge so its not much of a gamble. Is it gambling for the casino to run a roulette table? Theyre technically putting all their money up for grabs not knowing if players will win, its just that they have the bankroll to survive bad swings and overall the game gives an edge to the house, so I wouldnt really consider it gambling on the part of the casino In my opinion by you saying there is gamble to poker it proves it's gambling. Sure you can make a living off it but people do that on sportsbooking, blackjack, horse racing and every other thing. I never hear any one say BlackJack is not gambling yet people have strategy and play it for a living and there are even professional blackjack players but no matter what you do you still can't control the outcome of the cards. I don't think it's gambling for a casino to run a roulette table. They choose the odds, they control the betting like mins and max and they have a huge edge. The player is the one gambling the casino is the house who is letting you gamble.
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jase1 posted:There may be some skill involved to reduce your variance or whatever but at the end of the day it's still gambling.
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jase1 posted:I don't think it's gambling for a casino to run a roulette table. They choose the odds, they control the betting like mins and max and they have a huge edge. The player is the one gambling the casino is the house who is letting you gamble. If I sit down at a poker table with players that are worse than me, I will have a skill edge on the other players. This can be a very huge edge if they are much worse than me. This isn't some hypothetical edge: skill edges in poker are something that have been mathematically proven. No matter what, there is always a chance that you will lose, making it a gamble, but if you average that over millions of hands, the chances of you coming out in the absurdly small. The evidence for poker being a game of skill is so overwhelming a federal judge ruled that it is a game of skill, and therefore should not be subject to gambling laws. And to reiterate Manyak's point: yes, the casino has a mathematical edge, but it still conceivable that they will lose money on any given roulette table, slot machine, or whatever else** in a given day. They are, in essence, gambling, just with a solid edge, no different from a skilled poker player's edge. Casinos minimize their risk of losing money by running lots and lots and lots of games. ** the exception being games like poker where the house has a fixed rake; they make money no matter what happens, as long as people are playing Imaduck fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Aug 13, 2013 |
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Imaduck posted:The goal of "skill" in poker is not to "reduce variance." In fact, there are many high-variance poker playstyles that are very profitable in the long run. If you play poker, you should understand what "variance" means. Well obviously I don't understand what variance means and I really don't care or plan on ever understanding it. I don't need to understand it I do just fine on my own without it.
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Heh, yeah, sorry, that came off more jerky than I meant it to be. Certainly, there's nothing wrong with playing poker recreationally and/or for the gambling aspects. There's no need to learn a bunch of formal poker terminology / theory stuff if you're just there to have a good time, regardless of the outcome. It certainly is a beatable game, however, as many pros have proven. Poker is different from a game like chess, however, in that you don't have control over every thing that happens. That still doesn't change that it's a beatable game of skill. If you having some burning interest in how luck, variance, and skill play into a game, Richard Garfield, the creator of several prominent games, has a pretty sweet talk on this. He gives a great example: imagine you played a game that was just like chess, but at the end of every game, you rolled a six sided die. If it comes up a six, the loser becomes the winner. In a game like this, there's no denying that it's still a game of skill, since 5 out of 6 games on average, will be decided by the superior chess player. However, by some definition, it's still gambling... but Garry Kasparov could play against me for a 1000 games and you can pretty easily guess who'd come out ahead. Yes, there's some small chance I'd win just due to lucky die rolls, but it is exceedingly unlikely.
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Anywho, let's stop derailing on poker definitions and keep applauding jase for an amazing, amazing thread.
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Jase1 owns and gently caress a bunch of 4 bet +ev poo poo. We can read that in 2+2 if it was remotely interesting. But it isn't, and jase's stories are. E: Oh my that was a :sperg: above me let it mellow fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Aug 14, 2013 |
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Aug 14, 2013 04:40
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Nice derail. Anyway, it sounds like your life balance with your career and girl and all is pretty good jase, I'm just curious about how much cash in any given year you win/lose gambling with those other responsibilities. If you aren't comfortable saying, it's understandable.
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Tom Douchebag Vagina! TOM DOUCHEBAG VAGINA! TOM DOUCHEBAG VAGINA!!!
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Bluff posted:Nice derail. I Haven't had a losing year in Gambling in a really long time and that was when I was in my early 20's. It depends year by year how much I make but looking at my spreadsheets for the last 10 years the least amount I have ever made was 22k and the most I ever made in a year was close to 100k. These last few years I have slowed down on the gambling and focused more on the company I co-own. Every year I usually have a party at The Fox and Hound and it's always the Saturday after my birthday. This is like tradition for me so much so, that Missy the event planner for the bar always calls me the month before to let me know she has the usual spot reserved. So as usual I send out the mass texts to all my friends and family and let them know to come party with me on my birthday. The party got off to a nice start with Dave the manager that night buying me and about 5 other people a round of shots of Tequila. It seemed like every person who showed up either wanted to buy me a drink or a shot and I have them lined up to were I wasn't going to have to spend any money on alcohol this night. I didn't plan on shooting a lot of pool just because there were a lot of people that showed up this year that I hadn't seen in a few years so we were catching up on things. In fact I didn't even bring my pool stick into the bar I just left in the car figuring if I needed it I could run out to the car and get it. The party is in full swing and everyone is having a great time Tom DV and a couple of his friends show up. I talked about him earlier in the thread and the guy is just an idiot just to refresh the mentality of this kid when he was 16 he won 10k in online poker and blew it all up his nose on Cocaine before his parents could stop him. He always owes multiple people money and is always looking to borrow more. He is a trust fund kid and I think he gets so much money put in his account at the beginning of the month and by the first 2 weeks of the month he is broke usually and borrowing money. I have taken his money in pool, I have taken his money at the poker table and I am planning on doing that until he either runs out of it or uses his brain and realize he is way in over his head. Quick side story about Tom that I heard about last week. About 3 am one night Hiphop gets a text from him that says "hey man got any Ya" hips response was "what the gently caress is ya" and Tom texts back "you know, cocaine" and hip tells him no. So the next morning hip texts me and asks if I heard about tom and he tells me this stroy. I guess Tom was fiending for coke so bad that he sent out a mass text to find some and couldn't find any. So one his buddy's says he knows this guy that lives in a lovely neighborhood and he can probably get them coke. So they get in contact with the guy and he says sure come on over and he gives them the address. The address is on the East side of Cleveland in a neighborhood that you probably shouldn't go into at anytime let alone 3am but you know how drug addicts are only thinking about their next score. So they pull up and park a few doors from the house and right as the 4 of them get out of the car they get robbed by a dude at gunpoint who also happens to be the guy who they called for the hookup. So there is Tom and his 4 friends sitting in a lovely neighboorhood at 3am and their car was just stolen and all their money and phones and jewelry were taken too. So instead of calling someone they knew to come pick them up he Tom walks to a payphone and calls the police. The police show up and know exactly what is going on and why they are there this late at night and pick them up and take them back to the station. I still don't know how this happened but somehow the cops got the 4 guys to empty their pockets and they all had pills and weed on them except Tom and they get arrested and Tom ends up walking home from the east side of Cleveland all the way over to Lakewood which is about a 15 mile walk. This kid is the king of idiots. Anyways back to the party and tom shows up already messed up on something and he says he is looking to gamble. I ask him how much he has on him and he says he has 2k and I ask him if he has ever played in a ring game. A ring game is where 4 people all take turns shooting a 9 ball game. You shoot until you miss and then it's the next players turn and so on. Regular balls are usually worth 5 or 10 bucks and the nine ball is usually worth 20. So I explained it to Tom and told him I could find 3 other people that want to play if he is interested. He says sure and I walk over to my uncle Frank and tell him I have a sucker for a ring game. He says he is in and his daughter Desiree is in too so we tell Tom, we are going to play for $10 a ball and $25 for the nine ball. What Tom doesn't know is that Frank, Desiree and me are all working against him. We set it up so the order of play is Tom shoots first, then me, then Frank and Desiree shoots last. The key to this hustle is the person who shoots before the dummie always leaves that person with a lovely shot. So basically all night Desiree is acting like she has no clue how to shoot pool, which is bullshit and she is almost if not better than me, and is leaving Tom with tough shots all night. Tom ends up losing the 2k in about 2 hours and has no clue what hit him. He is now completely embarrassed in front of everyone and wants to try and win some money back but he has no cash on him and already took too much out of his bank account. So he is trying to borrow money and no one will let him have a dime so he comes up to me and says "hey man see these boots I got on? I just bought them for $300 bucks and I will play you for them." I tell him that I think it's time for him to go home now he has lost enough. He is basically begging me to play so I tell him that here is what we will do. I will shoot him for the boots and I will put up $500 which is more than he paid for them. If he loses not only do I get his boots but Desiree gets to choose his new nickname and he has to introduce himself to people in the poker group by his new nickname for 1 year or he will owe me another $50 every time he doesn't do it. He also has to change his name on the poker forum board to the said nickname. He doesn't even think about for a minute he agrees and I tell him lets play a race to 3. He accepts and I crush him easily 3-0. He reluctantly hands over his boots which I in turn offer them to hip hop to be permanently displayed in his basement poker room. Hip says he is getting a box made for them and will display them on the wall like a trophy. After about 30 minutes of making sure to bust his balls brutally especially when the waitress and a couple of other people walk buy Tom says he has had enough and it's time for him to go home. I tell Tom not so fast you still need a nickname and I call Desiree over and tell her to give Tom the worst nickname she can think off. She says Tom your new nick name is Tom Douchebag Vagina. We all laugh hysterically and I tell hip that we need to get a little engraved plate on the boots that says his nickname on them. After tom leaves we proceed to text everyone in the poker group and let them know that if Tom does not introduce himself as Douchebag Vagina he will owe me $50. Hip also goes on the poker board and lets everyone know what Tom has to do. The very next day Tom has plans to shoot gold with a couple of guys from the group and he doesn't introduce himself as the nickname and they all text me to tell me that Tom now owes me $50. I haven't heard from him since or seen him at any games or the casino so he is either broke until the beginning of the month or he is completely embarrassed at how much of a joke he is within the group.
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greazeball posted:Tom Douchebag Vagina! TOM DOUCHEBAG VAGINA! TOM DOUCHEBAG VAGINA!!! yesssssss thread delivers again!
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This thread is absolutely killer. I eagerly anticipate any updates that Jade has!
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Great thread. I love how in that one hand with QJ10 on the flop you both get it in for 400 big blinds with like the 12th nuts, live poker is the best. With the ring game I feel like you didn't hustle Tom, you straight up cheated him. He was drawing dead playing 1 vs 3, where as he thought everyone was playing straight up against each other. Not that I feel bad for him cuz he sounds like a huge sucker who would have lost it all no matter what. But personally that's where I would draw the line between cheating and hustling.
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Just wanted to stop in and say, you're the loving man, Jase. Consistently making Cleveland proud, keep it up. I wonder if DoucheBag Vagina is missing his boots right about now.
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T_ReV posted:Great thread. I love how in that one hand with QJ10 on the flop you both get it in for 400 big blinds with like the 12th nuts, live poker is the best. I have discussed this before and I completely understand your point of view but I disagree. The minute I use the word gambling in a bar people should be running away. There is some reason that I want to gamble with you and it's either I am going to hustle you or I am better than you and have an edge. You call it cheating I call it hustling thats where we differ. A nice night at the roulette wheel thanks to my girlfriend and her friends. I have been working so much lately that my girlfriend started giving me poo poo about it and that we needed a date night. So I took Friday off and I got reservations at John Q's which is a really good steakhouse in downtown Cleveland and the best part is they work with the Horseshoe Casino so I can use my comps and not pay a dime. So after filling my belly with wine and Steak, my girlfriend got a text from a friend who was at the casino and she wanted to go over there and hang with them. I figured I could leave her with them and go play some poker but she was not having any of that. We meet her friends at the bar and its all these hot 26 year olds in skirts and heels and I am the only guy. While that may seem like fun it can be really annoying hearing them all talk about makeup and other inane bullshit. I buy a round of Tequila and order me a scotch and proceed to sit at the casino bar and get drunk listening to what sounds like an episode of Sex and the City. Finally I convince my girlfriend to let me walk 25 feet away to the roulette table so I can have some fun while I am here. I buy in for $1000 because on weekends it $25 min bet and start betting on my usual numbers. 14 which is my girl and my deceased grandmothers birthday, 25 which is my Grandfathers birthday, and 19 which is just a number I like to play. After betting about $200 and breaking even on betting a first 12 and it hit, I notice the dealer looking behind me and staring and I turn around and there is My girlfriend and all her friends and they want to watch me. The dealer gets this big smile on his face and says do you know them. I tell him yeah and the girls all crowd around me asking questions. How much do you bet? Why didn't you win that time? What does this mean and so on and so on. Now normally I would get annoyed but my girl was right there by my side and knew every answer to those questions because she had watched me bet on roulette a million times before and she let me answer them with a huge smile on her face. She grabs my hand whispers in my ear thanks for this and tells me she owes me big time. So I get into, I enjoy it and start to have fun and the roulette table is having fun. I mean I am surrounded by 5 beautiful women and there attention is all on me and what I am doing. So I ask them to start calling out numbers and I start betting them. After about losing $300 one girl says can you play 17 for me and I say sure and I put 25 on 17 and it hits. Thats $875 and I tell him to give me 8 blacks with that and I give her $100 for the pick. Now the reason I did that is because then the dealer will yell out 8 blacks going out and it adds to the atmosphere. I normally don't think women are fawning over me but I swear you could see it in the eyes of a few of the girls and they wanted to gently caress my brains out. So I kept pushing my bets bigger and bigger I started betting 100 on the outside on the first and second and third twelves and then betting even and odds and I just kept winning. After about 20 spins I had about $3500 in my pocket and another $2000 on the table. I was on a heater and not only were the girls loving but the people at my table were now tailing my bets and of course my ego takes over and I feel like a king. My girlfriend brings me back down to earth when she says 2 more spins then it's time to go and I figure I might as well wrap this up. I tell girls I am gonna make one more bet and it will be the max bet at the table of $500 but they have to decide where they want me to bet it becuase if it wins I will spit it with them. It takes them 2 full spins before they decide they want to bet it all on red. So I put $500 on red and it hits and they lose their poo poo screaming. I finally turn in my nickels and get all blacks and greens, I tip the dealer a black $100 chip and head to the cage. After pulling all the chips out of my pockets and they count it up I cash out for $6765 and I give the girls their $500 and I am left with $6265. We say our goodbyes and head back to the car. On the way home my girlfriend tells me she has always told them about nights like this and they always eat it up. I made a joke about how I could have probably had a sextuplet tonight and she says in your dreams and I say make sure they are invited to the wedding. jase1 fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Sep 14, 2013 |
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I still love it whenever I see that this tread has an update. Thanks for all the stories jase.
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Favorite thread in the forum. I got into Pool because of it and making me want to get back into craps, my favorite casino game. I'm glad you are finding the time and still posting!
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Amalek posted:Favorite thread in the forum. To be honest, after rifling through this whole thread in about 2 days; I went out and purchased a new pool table. Thanks a lot Jase!
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Sep 26, 2013 16:24
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I guess Jase1 got caught hustling and had his hands broken or something. Too bad, I love these stories.
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Nov 12, 2013 08:24
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Sometimes he goes a couple of months. He's been busy with his day job a lot this year too.
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Nov 12, 2013 09:09
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I miss these stories. I just felted the trails on my inherited 8ft table today, haven't got to play it yet but I'm closing in.
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Dec 22, 2013 23:54
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I was playing in a bar lastnight and some old dude was telling me that the 4 and 9 balls are heavier than any other ball on the table and that if you put them behind the 8 the 8 will not move on the break unless whoever a breaking knows just how to hit them. Any truth to this?
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fps_bill posted:I was playing in a bar lastnight and some old dude was telling me that the 4 and 9 balls are heavier than any other ball on the table and that if you put them behind the 8 the 8 will not move on the break unless whoever a breaking knows just how to hit them. Any truth to this? None, whatsoever, at least in the USA*. The Billiard Congress of America specifies 5.5-6oz per ball, so there is leeway, but that's allowed for any ball. It is not standard practice to make the 4 and 9 heavier than the other balls. * I really doubt it's true anywhere else, either.
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Jan 2, 2014 00:30
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Yeah, that sounds like the guy was bullshitting you for fun.
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Jan 2, 2014 00:53
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Jase. The best poo poo I've read on SA, and I've read a lot of poo poo. Your stories are loving intense, man, when I read them late at night I go to sleep thinking about pool. You've made me wanna find some tables and work on my game. Thanks a lot, this is top class entertainment. Talk about vicariously living though someone else's experience.. never though a pool room hustler could be so cool. Keep it up, if you can. You'll beat Frank one day. 
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Jan 5, 2014 23:03
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Awwww, c'mon back Jase and tell us a story.
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I am so sorry for the lack of posting but with tax season at work and me getting married in less than 2 months, I haven't had anytime to shoot pool or gamble much. My company just broke it's own record for cars sold in the month of February and we have collected more money in the finance company then we have ever collected so things are doing really good. I am getting married June 7th then head off to a 2 week honeymoon in Paris. To my surprise the Paris honeymoon is a gift from my parents. Since I don't communicate with my parents much and they know nothing about my private life they found out through my uncles that I am now part owner of a car dealership and finance company. All of a sudden my parents kind of changed their tone on the church stuff and me going to hell. My dad showed up at the dealership one day unannounced and I gave him the tour and we went to lunch. We started working on our issues and got a lot of lovely things dealt with and we are slowly working through everything. SO anyways enough of my bullshit family drama lets get to the good stuff. Last Friday I basically almost lost my mind at the dealership I felt like I hadn't had a day off since the first week of January and I was burnt out. My sales manager said things had slowed down because most of the people got their tax returns now and if I wanted to I could take a week off and he could handle it. So I did and it was worth it. I decided to go to the casino Friday night and see what I could get into. I sat down and played poker for a few hours but it just wasn't fun, everyone at the table was a knit and no one was drinking except me. So I left to go downstairs and play roulette. There was no one at the roulette table either so I made a few 50 dollar spins and ended up losing $500. I got bored at the casino and didn't find anyone I knew to hang with so I decided to go find a place to shoot pool. AS much as I have played pool I basically have a database in my head of where pool tables are and where you can get action and I started going through them and calling them to see how the crowd was. Most of the pool halls I use to shoot at that I haven't been to in awhile have closed down. So after going through a few places and finding out there isn't much action tonight I decide to walk a couple of blocks from the casino and go to this hotshot lawyer bar where I usually can make a grand pretty easy. It takes me 15 minutes to get a drink and when I do I walk downstairs to where the pool table is and I notice that about 20 people are standing around the table just bullshitting and a couple of guys are sitting on it. I walk over put my quarters in and drop the balls. No one moves so I grab the balls and start racking and no one moves. I walk over to a guy sitting on the edge of the table and say "I am gonna shoot around a little could you move for me please". He doesn't even look at me when I am talking to him. I tap him on the shoulder and he looks at me and I say the same thing. He rolls his eyes and turns his back to me. So I say okay I walk over grab a pool stick and break the balls I proceed to to shoot around them, I see the guy has his hand on the rail and I tell him hey man my cueball might hit your hand and that's gonna hurt like a mother fucker. He gets off the table walks over to me and says "Who the gently caress do you think you are?" I am startled that this guy is gonna be an rear end in a top hat about this and I tell him "I am just a guy who wants to shoot some pool but some rear end in a top hat wont move." The guy laughs and turns around and says to his buddys "looks like we have a tough guy here". That basically is the last straw for me and I go into rear end in a top hat ego mode right away. I put the stick down walk right over to the guy get in his face and this is what I say. "I came here to shoot pool tonight but from the looks of it I think we are going to have to fight to settle what ever problem you and your friends have with me. So either you assholes go outside with me right now or if you want we can do it right here." The guy just stares at my and says nothing so I again repeat myself but this time I am little louder. He laughs and walks away and I say that's what I thought. So I go back to shooting pool and I am there for about 2 hours and make about $300 and some free drinks nothing big and I am still down from losing money at the casino. At this time the bar starts to clear out and I decide to just go home and sleep. I walk back to the casino and go to the top floor of the garage where my car is parked. I start to get in my car and I hear a guy yelling my name. I turn around and it's this dealer Brad who knows me from dealing poker to me. We catch up for a few and he asks me where I was headed and he says he is going to this party in a huge loft downtown and wants to know if I wanna go. I say sure and we head to the party. I walk in and this place is amazing the guy owns a lot of property downtown that is being developed because of the casino. He is making a killing right now and he took and old lovely warehouse and turned it in to an amazing livable loft. You pull into the warehouse and the whole first floor is parking. We park and go up the elevator to the 2nd floor where to party is. The doors open and I swear it's a scene out of a movie. There is a DJ playing live music and what seems to be a sea of beautiful women dancing. I look to the right and there is guy making drinks at one of these glass bars that I swear looked like it came straight out the mad men. I go over get a drink and just relax against the wall taking in the scenery. The music stops for about 20 seconds so the DJ can thank everyone for co and blah blah blah. As soon as he is done speaking I hear the all too familiar sound of balls being broke on a pool table. I ask the guy making drinks where the pool table is and he shows me a hallway to walk down and it's the other half of the loft. It's basically a huge man cave in a warehouse. A whole living room set with a TV bigger than I have ever seen. Then he has a row of video games and a pool table with a light strung all the way down from the ceiling to light the table. I swear it was like God himself or an angel was shining a light on that table. So I walk up ask if I can shoot next. They say sure and I sit down in a comfy chair awaiting my turn to shoot pool. Guy comes up to me and hands me a stick and says winner stays on and I say okay. I go up to the table and begin to act like the worst pool player in the world I lose probably 5 times before one of the guys gets frustrated and asks why I even shoot. I tell him it's fun and like the game and I am getting better. He says I am really bad and should let them shoot around for awhile and I say no I want to keep shooting. He says whats the point you will never beat us so you just lose all the time why is that fun? I tell him I can beat him I just need to get warmed up and he laughs. He again tells me to leave and I say no I am gonna shoot here all night. I tell him I can beat him if I want to but I am just having an off night and then it happens. Those magic words that basically give me a boner when I hear them. He looks at me and says there is no way you will ever beat me in pool and I say yeah I can and he says "wanna bet"! There it is I have finally got what I wanted. This guy has nice shoes, a nice watch, a very expensive suit and I know he carrys a lot of cash with him looking like that. I say what do you mean bet like on pool? HE says sure, you think you can beat me do you wanna bet on it and I ask him how much. He says lets play for $100 and I tell him that's a lot of money for me I don't think I should do that. He says that's what I thought and starts to walk away and I tell him how about we play for $50 instead and he says okay. I lose the first 4 games on purpose and I am down $200. He is getting cocky and loving every minute of this and I am playing the loser perfectly. I am getting mad when I miss shots and just acting really frustrated and I lose another 4 games to put me down $400. Now at this time I tell the guy I am down to much money and I don't think I can gamble anymore and then his ego takes over and he starts talking poo poo. I pretend to get mad and tell him I will be back, I need to get money out of the ATM. Total bullshit I walk over to the other side get a few drinks and sit there and wait for 30 minutes. I walk back up to the table sloppily with my drink in my and my best drunk guy impression and tell the guy I want to try and win my money back, he laughs and says well I already won $400 off you are you sure you wanna lose more. I said I went to the ATM and got $500 bucks how about we play 1 game for $500 he says sure. I then win a very close match and as soon as the 8ball drops in the pocket I hear him say really loud "that was bullshit". I walk over and ask for my money and he gives it to me. He says lets shoot again this time for just $100 and I tell him no I got my money back and I don't want to lose it again. He says how about double or nothing and I again decline and walk away from the table. He gets real mad and loud and says how about we play for 1k and it stops me in my tracks I turn around and say that's a lot of money are you sure you wanna bet like that. He pulls from what I can guess about 5 grand out of his pocket and says 1k isn't poo poo to me. At this time a lot of people have been watching and we gather a nice crowd. Now in my head I was saying this next line as a joke but it worked out even better than I imagine. I said how about we play for the whole 5 grand and he laughs and says where are you gonna get 5 grand and I tell him you think you are the only person with money around here? I count out 5 grand in 100's and lay it on the table and say lets do this and he nervously laughs and accepts because now we have about 25 people watching us and he can't backed himself into a corner. Side note:Pride is such a beautiful thing in gambling if you can exploit it in someone you can get what ever you want. I was able to get this guy to gamble with me for 5k because he laid out a challenge in front of a couple of people including some hot chicks him and his friends where trying to gently caress. If this guy wants to get laid this is his ticket to do it and he knows it. So we grab the 10k put it on the rack and I ask him if he wants to flip for the break. I grab a coin flip it and he says heads and it lands tails. I get the break and make 2 solids on the break and the table is wide open. I run out it in like 5 mins and the game is over and the guy is just standing against the wall with a blank stare not even saying anything. There was no cheering by people or anything it just got really quiet and everyone was in shock. I grab the money off the rack say anyone else and one guy calls me an rear end in a top hat and I tell the guy if he wants to talk poo poo to step up and play me. He doesn't' and I walk to the other part of the loft looking for my friend Brad. He is tongue deep in some blonde on the dance floor so I shoot him a text that I am taking off. As I am walking to the elevator these 2 black haired girls get in the elevator with me. They ask me if I am pro pool player and I tell them no I am a gambler. She asks where I am going now and I get the hint that they want gently caress me. I talk to them as I walk to the car and say goodnight ladies. They ask me if I want to go back to casino party some more and get a room and I tell them I am engaged to be married. They both say awww and tell me congrats. I tell them thanks get in my car and drive home with a huge hard on knowing I could have had my first threesome ever.
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Apr 17, 2014 17:08
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jase1 posted:Totally awesome stuff. Yay Jase1 is back!!!
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Apr 17, 2014 17:35
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mattfl posted:Yay Jase1 is back!!! WE LOVE YOU JASE! I think I speak for everyone who reads this thread - you're an awesome dude with kickin' rad stories, so keep em the gently caress up!
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Apr 17, 2014 18:16
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Ah, but if you had played it right you could've had your first foursome 
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Ah, but if you had played it right you could've had your first foursome Some gambler he is.
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