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Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

There are a LOT of people out there that really, really can't stand it when a game forces you to commit to an action. Like, they get irate if they start swinging for an attack and can't immediately cancel into an invincible dodge roll or jump or block.

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Aumanor
Nov 9, 2012

GrossMurpel posted:

Of course, all his horses are called Roach.

Which would suggest that Geralt only rides mares, and the Polish word for a common roach, płotka, is a feminine noun.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
man it sounds like the combat is less what it used to be good at (prep work + care) and more just mashin, not a big deal, but i felt that really made geralt feel... like he wasnt super absurdly overpowered, just a clever and pretty strong guy.

not a big deal but i will probably miss that sort of direction the game felt like it was going in

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE posted:

man it sounds like the combat is less what it used to be good at (prep work + care) and more just mashin, not a big deal, but i felt that really made geralt feel... like he wasnt super absurdly overpowered, just a clever and pretty strong guy.

not a big deal but i will probably miss that sort of direction the game felt like it was going in

From what it sounds like, you still have to be careful at higher difficulties. Plus, no one said the potion part is going away, right?

Comte de Saint-Germain
Mar 26, 2001

Snouk but and snouk ben,
I find the smell of an earthly man,
Be he living, or be he dead,
His heart this night shall kitchen my bread.
I thought the combat in W2 was good, but not great. I actually tried to play it on hard for a little while, but I found that the additional difficulty just made the flaws more apparent and switched to normal.

Suspicious
Apr 30, 2005
You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.
A big problem in Witcher 2 was that buff timers would still keep going during conversations, so if you went through every option and let the voice actors speak all their lines, by the the time the fighting started your buffs would be gone.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Suspicious posted:

A big problem in Witcher 2 was that buff timers would still keep going during conversations, so if you went through every option and let the voice actors speak all their lines, by the the time the fighting started your buffs would be gone.

The trick is to always be high on at least four different substances.

Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."

Lots of nice touches in this. The monsters that dive into the water after you, like certain birds. Horse gallop that's actually fast unlike DA:I. And unless I'm mistaken that's Charles Dance (Tywin Lannister) as the VA for the emperor of Nilfgaard.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Relentlessboredomm posted:

Lots of nice touches in this. The monsters that dive into the water after you, like certain birds. Horse gallop that's actually fast unlike DA:I. And unless I'm mistaken that's Charles Dance (Tywin Lannister) as the VA for the emperor of Nilfgaard.

I was actually a little put off because the horse's trot looked exactly as fast as Geralt's walk.
And yeah that's him.

Comte de Saint-Germain
Mar 26, 2001

Snouk but and snouk ben,
I find the smell of an earthly man,
Be he living, or be he dead,
His heart this night shall kitchen my bread.
Supposedly we have a livestream going up in a couple minutes: http://www.twitch.tv/GOGcom

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011






These are all great :allears:

The third one especially just screams "can I have your stuff?"

Corin Tucker's Stalker
May 27, 2001


One bullet. One gun. Six Chambers. These are my friends.

Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

There are a LOT of people out there that really, really can't stand it when a game forces you to commit to an action. Like, they get irate if they start swinging for an attack and can't immediately cancel into an invincible dodge roll or jump or block.

That's not what the problem is, at least for me. It just doesn't commit to being either methodical or super actiony. It's neither fast and precise or slow and impactful. It walks a weird line that never quite goes far enough in either direction, and just feels fiddly.

Even Geralt's movement speed, the placement of the camera, and the way the character moved in relation to the camera did not connect with me at all.

Corin Tucker's Stalker fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Jan 26, 2015

Oligopsony
May 17, 2007
So the top review on Steam for this game enthuses:

quote:

Game of Thrones looks like a cartoon for babies when compared to The Witcher series.
Glorious boobs, bloody action, eyes get poked out, people get burned alive, murders, drinking, tattoos, demon-sex, softcore porn "romance" scenes, brothels, dice playing, arm wrestling, fist fights...this game has everything!
"But does it have dragons?" Hell yes! And only a sissy would tame a dragon. You slaughter the motherhumper!

If you're looking for a dark fantasy fix then look no further!

Is this an accurate gloss of the game's tone? (No judgment either way, just trying to sense if I'd enjoy it personally.)

Captain Scandinaiva
Mar 29, 2010



Relentlessboredomm posted:

Lots of nice touches in this. The monsters that dive into the water after you, like certain birds. Horse gallop that's actually fast unlike DA:I. And unless I'm mistaken that's Charles Dance (Tywin Lannister) as the VA for the emperor of Nilfgaard.

Agreed. I also noticed Geralt has an animation for sliding down mountainsides. And there's the usual stuff going on with the random NPCs doing stuff, it all looks very polished. I am sad this game isn't getting the thread with the updated OP it deserves (yet). I'd make one myself but I fear I won't have the time to keep it up to date.

Also, one of the preview linked to this

Oligopsony posted:

So the top review on Steam for this game enthuses:


Is this an accurate gloss of the game's tone? (No judgment either way, just trying to sense if I'd enjoy it personally.)

It has all of those things, but it's not really on the level of GoT, I'd say. I doesn't kill off it's main characters and make you despair the same way. It also mostly features one of each of those things, it's not chock-full of tits and demon sex.

Captain Scandinaiva fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Jan 26, 2015

Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^

Oligopsony posted:

So the top review on Steam for this game enthuses:


Is this an accurate gloss of the game's tone? (No judgment either way, just trying to sense if I'd enjoy it personally.)

It has most of those things, yes.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
I think "it makes Games of Thrones look like a cartoon for babies" is hyperbole, though. They're basically akin.

Lava Lamp Goddess
Feb 19, 2007

Lycus posted:

I think "it makes Games of Thrones look like a cartoon for babies" is hyperbole, though. They're basically akin.

Yeah, they're pretty similar in tone. I usually recommend people to The Witcher via mentioning GoT.

I stayed awake long enough in my sick haze to watch the preview. Looks bloody great. So many nice little touches like the cloth physics and facial animations. Get here already May!

COOKIEMONSTER
Oct 31, 2006
As an affluent straight white male I know quite a bit second hand what it's like to be incredibly poor and oppressed.

Oligopsony posted:

So the top review on Steam for this game enthuses:


Is this an accurate gloss of the game's tone? (No judgment either way, just trying to sense if I'd enjoy it personally.)

That review is correct but, also misses the fact that it mirrors Game of Thrones(A Song of Ice and Fire) in more meaningful ways. Although to be fair, since the witcher novels came out like a decade before the first Game of Thrones book came out, you could say Game of Thrones mirrors the Witcher.

Yeah it has nudity and some pretty hefty violence. But I don't really think that's what makes Game of Thrones so popular. The tone it's going for is Dark Fantasy yeah, or perhaps more appropriately 'fantasy realism' in a world where monsters that kill people live absolutely everywhere and make live living hell for people. But it also has the character development and depth of character design of Game of Thrones. It has the political scheming, where independent actors are working behind the scenes in ways that can be discovered or missed by Geralt. So that it's a mesh of competing plot lines that Geralt finds himself constantly blundering into the middle of. The tone is in a lot of ways, secondary to how fantastic the writing and the plot are, it simply provides a basis on which that story can build most easily. It's also sort of like going through Game of Thrones from a single perspective, from any one of the character stories.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Lycus posted:

I think "it makes Games of Thrones look like a cartoon for babies" is hyperbole, though. They're basically akin.

Its GoT with more monsters, magic, and polish/eastern europe folklore.

Mikojan
May 12, 2010

I'm about to install the game again for the 3d time. (I keep changing PC's)

I have never done a playthrough past act2 but must have sunk over 50 hours into this motherfucker. One of the best RPG's I have ever played.

I will play the game on Dark to have the most difficult experience. Just stopping by to ask whether I should get the combat rehaul mod or not? I don't think the combat was really bothering me playing without it. Does it add a lot of enjoyment?

Mars4523
Feb 17, 2014

Oligopsony posted:

So the top review on Steam for this game enthuses:


Is this an accurate gloss of the game's tone? (No judgment either way, just trying to sense if I'd enjoy it personally.)
I'm a bit worried about that last part. The last dragon we met was pretty cool, all things considered, so I'm hoping that's a different one.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
She was the one of the very few genuinely good-hearted characters in the game. :(

Comte de Saint-Germain
Mar 26, 2001

Snouk but and snouk ben,
I find the smell of an earthly man,
Be he living, or be he dead,
His heart this night shall kitchen my bread.

Lycus posted:

She was the one of the very few genuinely good-hearted characters in the game. :(

If he only played the Roche path I'm not sure he could have known.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Mars4523 posted:

I'm a bit worried about that last part. The last dragon we met was pretty cool, all things considered, so I'm hoping that's a different one.

You don't know about that on Roche's path though.

COOKIEMONSTER posted:

Although to be fair, since the witcher novels came out like a decade before the first Game of Thrones book came out, you could say Game of Thrones mirrors the Witcher.

The Witcher short story first came out in 1986 and the first collection in 1990, the first actual novel in 1994. A Game of Thrones (first ASOIAF book) came out in 1991.

Comte de Saint-Germain
Mar 26, 2001

Snouk but and snouk ben,
I find the smell of an earthly man,
Be he living, or be he dead,
His heart this night shall kitchen my bread.
Both of them are very similar because it's a natural progression of the ideas laid out by earlier versions of the style and they happened to emerge in a receptive market.

Sort of like all culture and art.

Anti-Hero
Feb 26, 2004

GrossMurpel posted:

You don't know about that on Roche's path though.


The Witcher short story first came out in 1986 and the first collection in 1990, the first actual novel in 1994. A Game of Thrones (first ASOIAF book) came out in 1991.

Sorry to be a giant pedant but AGOT was first published in 1996.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Anti-Hero posted:

Sorry to be a giant pedant but AGOT was first published in 1996.

drat. Maybe I should actually look things up instead of being smug about things I supposedly have memorized. :negative:


Mikojan posted:

I'm about to install the game again for the 3d time. (I keep changing PC's)

I have never done a playthrough past act2 but must have sunk over 50 hours into this motherfucker. One of the best RPG's I have ever played.

I will play the game on Dark to have the most difficult experience. Just stopping by to ask whether I should get the combat rehaul mod or not? I don't think the combat was really bothering me playing without it. Does it add a lot of enjoyment?

I think if you want to have the most difficult experience, you have to get the mod. In a way Dark Mode is actually easier than Hard because once you get dodging down, you can do it practically endlessly and you get overpowered equipment.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
And of course, you can play in Dark Mode and ignore the dark armors.

Oligopsony
May 17, 2007
I rather like Game of Thrones! There's certainly nothing wrong with TATTOOS AND ARM WRESTLING as such, and I'd be lying if I denied enjoying some of the more male gaze-y aspects of the show in small doses. I guess my concern is whether, if the game hears me use the phrase "male gaze," it punches me in the face and calls me a human being.

Ham Sandwiches
Jul 7, 2000

Oligopsony posted:

I'd be lying if I denied enjoying some of the more male gaze-y aspects of the show in small doses. I guess my concern is whether, if the game hears me use the phrase "male gaze," it punches me in the face and calls me a human being.

Geralt enjoys the ladies, and there are scenes and camera angles accordingly.

If you don't want a story about killing monsters, feudal politics, and romantic interludes with ladies, experienced from a male perspective then The Witcher may not be your cup of tea.

Mars4523
Feb 17, 2014

Rakthar posted:

Geralt enjoys the ladies, and there are scenes and camera angles accordingly.

If you don't want a story about killing monsters, feudal politics, and romantic interludes with ladies, experienced from a male perspective then The Witcher may not be your cup of tea.
At least they learned from those godawful collectible sex cards.

And with Ciri in the game there's one attractive female character in the game that you can't have sex with.

Cheston
Jul 17, 2012

(he's got a good thing going)

Oligopsony posted:

Is this an accurate gloss of the game's tone? (No judgment either way, just trying to sense if I'd enjoy it personally.)

The tone of that review is basically the complete opposite of the tone of the game.

Oligopsony posted:

I guess my concern is whether, if the game hears me use the phrase "male gaze," it punches me in the face and calls me a human being.

It does not. The game would probably be pretty chill about it.

Cheston fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Jan 26, 2015

Comte de Saint-Germain
Mar 26, 2001

Snouk but and snouk ben,
I find the smell of an earthly man,
Be he living, or be he dead,
His heart this night shall kitchen my bread.

Oligopsony posted:

I rather like Game of Thrones! There's certainly nothing wrong with TATTOOS AND ARM WRESTLING as such, and I'd be lying if I denied enjoying some of the more male gaze-y aspects of the show in small doses. I guess my concern is whether, if the game hears me use the phrase "male gaze," it punches me in the face and calls me a human being.

Witcher 2 is pretty macho, but it's the cool macho guy who likes gays, minorities, and women.

Section 31
Mar 4, 2012

Comte de Saint-Germain posted:

Previews all over the place, not gonna even bother linking them.

OP plz?

Here is a lazy OP:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3697049

If someone else want, feel free to "take over"...

Lava Lamp Goddess posted:

This and lots of gifs containing skeletons should suffice.
Done.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Mars4523 posted:

At least they learned from those godawful collectible sex cards.

I unironically prefer the sex cards to anything Bioware has done in the 'romance' area. The bit at the beginning where you can choose to sex up the witch in a blatant misuse of power then the card is all jarringly hideous and demonic was pure genius. And the pokemon aspect is a nice stand-in for Geralt's raging libido, if you want to approach it that way.

People like sex. Games can ignore that or recognise it, and I find the straightforward way CDProjekt do the latter to be preferable to the coy US approach.

E:

RPS posted:

For those like me who found The Witcher 2 uncomfortably difficult in the early going (and I’ve finished Dark Souls without breaking a sweat or a controller)

Whhaaaattt. DS is vastly harder than W2 ever was.

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

At the same time, it is slightly jarring that Geralt has sex like 5 times in the entire series of books that span a 20 to 30 year period. I mean, he could very well be screwing half of Vizima offscreen when we're not seeing things, I guess.

Crappy Jack fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Jan 27, 2015

Oligopsony
May 17, 2007
Cool, looks like I should give it a spin! when I have time for vidya games

Stick Figure Mafia
Dec 11, 2004

sebmojo posted:

Whhaaaattt. DS is vastly harder than W2 ever was.

I would actually love a Witcher game with DS combat, though.

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


It's really hard to me to compare the Witcher books with Game of Thrones because the Witcher series is written in such a specific meaty style and plays with the Polish language so much that it's basically untranslatable while being a major part of the appeal. GoT is written fairly normally in comparison.

For example Dandelion is such a hilarious character in the books mainly due to the language used to describe his actions and loses most of his humor when you simply show the guy in the game and make him tell jokes.

Palpek fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Jan 27, 2015

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Gasbraai
Oct 25, 2010

Lictor my Dictor
Interview where some community questions are posed to the Witcher 3 pr guy, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4LHxsvknog

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