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Used to be that Comp Scis got taught Object-Oriented Design in Java so they went on to inflict the most horrible AbstractAbstractUiFactory class hierarchies on whoever hired them first. Anyone not guilty raise their hand: Nowadays these crimes are committed in a wide variety of up-and-coming-and-going programming languages no-one decent has heard of. Well, turns out these new amazing features have all been invented in the 60's and they are all really easy to rewrite in readable and maintainable Java (or C# if you lean that way) and any StrategyInterpreterDelegateImplementations you only inflict on yourself. This is really the best time to be an experienced software developer, or maybe a programming language biologist would be a better fitting term. Almost every day there's a new weird specimen to wonder, study, dissect and bring into the fold. But don't let that stop you. Maybe misunderstood Python is really not "Shaka, when the walls fell." but really "Temba, his arms wide!" Maybe Erlang on Desktop will unleash all (ALL!) the cores. Maybe the Next Next Big Thing is totally going to be Rhino on Rails. Maybe. Naaaaaaah
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 22:53 |
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python is a really cool language
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 22:55 |
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perl, c, x86 asm all u need
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 22:55 |
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p languages are bad use java or c# etc.. etc..
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 22:58 |
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i'm pretty happy that the college i went to was staffed by a bunch of old farts who refused to teach their corses in anything but c/c++ my little brother has been coding almost exclusively in java in school (high school and freshman year of college) at least he's played with arduinos a bit and knows some c
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 22:58 |
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JawnV6 posted:perl, c, x86 asm i use the language of love
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 22:58 |
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gonna write a compiler for this class the language itself is pretty bad but that's because it's written to be easy to write a compiler for, not to actually use quote:For instance, the language supports less than comparisons but not greater than.
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:00 |
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my compilers class used Decaf, "java w/o the bits that make u jittery" that Cool looks horrid
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:01 |
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I am in posted:Well, turns out these new amazing features have all been invented in the 60's and they are all really easy to rewrite in readable and maintainable Java what the gently caress are you on about
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:02 |
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i took a java class 12 years ago and our midterm was to make an animation of a cloud moving past above a factory with smoke coming out of its smokestack that class made me want to never program a computer ever again but now i'm learning python and c#
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:02 |
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the most useful thing i learned in school was how to read/write x86 assembler
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:04 |
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Shaggar posted:p languages are bad
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:04 |
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except, of course, for the exception that proves the rule
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:05 |
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OBAMA BIN LAUGHIN posted:python is a really cool language
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:08 |
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OBAMA BIN LAUGHIN posted:python is a really cool language oooh, I meant to ask in the other thread about semantic web but it got closed is the future semantic web going to let me open my phone and see both facebook AND twitter in the same list? cos that would really be something I bet it will make use of some really amazing languages
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:09 |
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also I love python but this thread is just gonna turn into a slugfest with tbc and shagger making GBS threads everywhere, itll get all over the walls and it will be hell to clean you you will just have to move out and have the whole house demolished never have a party like that again anyway close the thread
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:09 |
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god forbid we have an actual programming thread, let's open up 3 more phone threads and one for hockeyI am in posted:is the future semantic web going to let me open my phone and see both facebook AND twitter in the same list? you won't even need to because after the Semantic Web gets here you'll just be living in the Cloud at all times as pure consciousness
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:11 |
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no dont close it i enjoy reading people serious post about code (this is a serious post)
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:12 |
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oh no pythons don't let them squeeze you
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:13 |
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I am in posted:oooh, I meant to ask in the other thread about semantic web but it got closed wp7 does this already hth
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:13 |
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Oh boy another thread about programing. Don't you loving nerds have something better to talk about? Get a loving life you degenerate wastes of flesh.
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:17 |
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OBAMA BIN LAUGHIN posted:python is a really cool language its good and sensible and easy to write for and easy to debug and if performance got you down you can easily write critical parts in c/c++ (using weave if you're doing simple numerical stuff, otherwise using swig)
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:18 |
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JumpinJackFlash posted:Oh boy another thread about programing. Don't you loving nerds have something better to talk about? if tef stays out of it it will evolve into a food thread pretty quickly
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:23 |
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Gentle Autist posted:if tef stays out of it it will evolve into a food thread pretty quickly i like working 2nd shift except it cuts into my cooking dinner time. p gonna do some fajitas this weekend or something idk
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:27 |
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i'd like to make some french bread too then i could make ownage po boys. i think im gonna do that
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:28 |
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python ceased to be cool the minute an advertising company bought up everything related to it
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:29 |
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python was never cool
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:30 |
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any language where you cant write anonymous functions is trash. javascript is the best language
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:40 |
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Hammerite posted:any language where you cant write anonymous functions is trash like its a reserved word??
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:42 |
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Hammerite posted:any language where you cant write anonymous functions is trash. javascript is the best language nice troll post but seriously lambdas own. I do kind of wish python could also do anonymous classes, that's one thing that java can do that is kind of nice. That said its way more necessary in java. But still.
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:42 |
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do java/c# if you want easy + money do objc if you want hard + lots of money do android devvin' if you want naggy users/pirates + no money close thread
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:45 |
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Rufo posted:what the gently caress are you on about in the 60's when they were inventing modern computing they didn't know how to make a fast computer let alone a fast programming language so they just invented all the language features and combined them in different ways to make slow and terrible programming languages because who can blame them, it was all new so now that we have more computing power than we know what do with, and java pre-empted all to good language features to create the java ecosystem, what can we look forward to? an endless stream of terrible remixes
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:45 |
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Ronald Raiden posted:nice troll post wait are classes in python not just objects? code:
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:49 |
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I am in posted:in the 60's when they were inventing modern computing they didn't know how to make a fast computer let alone a fast programming language i dont think you rly understand the idea of different programming paradigms
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:49 |
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BonzoESC posted:wait are classes in python not just objects? classes are first class objects of type 'type' (I think). But afaik there isn't a class class so you can't do that. Also what language is that.
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:56 |
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Ronald Raiden posted:classes ... class ... class class
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:57 |
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BonzoESC posted:wait are classes in python not just objects? yes they are, but there's not a nice way to make anonymous ones, you have to do something like t = type("bullshit_name", (SuperClass,), {"a_dict": "of attributes"})
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# ? Apr 25, 2012 23:58 |
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Ronald Raiden posted:asses ... rear end ... rear end rear end
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# ? Apr 26, 2012 00:06 |
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also, if anyone's curious, here is a list of the real (ie non-syntactic) differences between python and ruby:
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i'm going to college to learn how to program bideo games (video games). i learned c in the fall and just finished my first c++ class. next semester I take another c++ class, a operating systems class (stuff like multi-threading), and a graphics class. i never have to learn java
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