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Crackpipe
Jul 9, 2001

I love roasting chicken in the oven with my well-seasoned cast iron pans.

Is there any way to keep them from smoking like crazy? Even with windows open and fans running, it's a bit of a pain to my place from filling with smoke.

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blowingupcasinos
Feb 21, 2006
Clean your oven.

edit: oh man, that's kind of mean. Whenever I'd move into an apartment, I never really thought about an oven being clean or dirty. Some apartments just seemed "smokier". Then I realized I was dumb and had to clean my ovens. It sucks doing it, but when you're done you'll be inhaling less carcinogens. And you won't set off your smoke alarm nearly as much.

Crackpipe
Jul 9, 2001

The oven itself is clean.

I can have it humming along at 500 degrees for an hour without a whiff of smoke.

Throw a cast iron pan in there and the pan smokes uncontrollably. I know this is basically the seasoning burning the gently caress off (it doesn't happen on the gas stovetop), but I'm wondering if there's a way around it, because some recipes call for super-high oven temps and cast iron pans.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
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Soiled Meat
All my cast iron smokes above 400. It's just something you have to live with.

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

Another project! Found a rusty and grody plättlagg in my folks' basement. Probably belonged to some ancient aunt or maybe a grandma.

Two rounds of oven cleaner and steel wool, now doing the first rounds of flax seed oil and baking.



This is a plättlagg. It laggs plättar.

Dr. Klas
Sep 30, 2005
Operating.....done!

axolotl farmer posted:


This is a plättlagg. It laggs plättar.

Nice! Looks very crude, like it was hand crafted by an blacksmith. Skepphult still make really good cast iron pieces and the often have handles made of a tube with vents that prevents the handle from getting too hot to handle.

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

That's just a pic from a GIS for all the poor people who never knew the joy of plättar och sylt.

Devoyniche
Dec 21, 2008
Can you get cast iron cooking poo poo now that isn't enameled/"pre-seasoned"? I feel like that is just done to cover up cheapness, but I don't know anything about cast iron other than it's super hip to have and is apparently a good cooking surface. I am a believer in the idea that a "well-seasoned" piece of cast iron isn't going to be the magic bullet that makes your cooking tolerable if it is lovely, but now that my cousin (who is a really awful cook - she moved to California and stopped cooking with "fats" and doesn't cook with more than 3 - 5 ingredients per dish because it gets away from the "wholesome roots" of whatever) has "claimed" the cast iron cooking poo poo that my grandma has, I kind of want it.

Please enlighten me on the subject, GWS.

Gilgameshback
May 18, 2010

Devoyniche posted:

Can you get cast iron cooking poo poo now that isn't enameled/"pre-seasoned"? I feel like that is just done to cover up cheapness, but I don't know anything about cast iron other than it's super hip to have and is apparently a good cooking surface. I am a believer in the idea that a "well-seasoned" piece of cast iron isn't going to be the magic bullet that makes your cooking tolerable if it is lovely, but now that my cousin (who is a really awful cook - she moved to California and stopped cooking with "fats" and doesn't cook with more than 3 - 5 ingredients per dish because it gets away from the "wholesome roots" of whatever) has "claimed" the cast iron cooking poo poo that my grandma has, I kind of want it.

Please enlighten me on the subject, GWS.

There is very little difference between cheap and expensive cast iron, and in fact I have never even seen expensive cast iron that wasn't antique or enameled (Staub or Le Creuset). If you don't want enameled cast iron then get Lodge, which is superb and very inexpensive. Lodge pans come pre-seasoned, but this isn't a big deal, and certainly isn't a way to cover up cheapness or manufacturing flaws - my understanding is that it's mostly to keep the pans from rusting during shipment or in the store. Pre-seasoning is not really a factor for or against buying a piece of iron cookware.

You could also try De Buyer Mineral pans, or the Lodge carbon steel line - they are lighter than cast iron but have most of its good qualities. The De Buyer Mineral line isn't pre-seasoned at all.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
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Soiled Meat
Getting pre-seasoned cast iron is perfectly fine. However, if you absolutely must have unseasoned cast iron, you can buy it at survival/military surplus stores

Personally I'd just go with the pre-seasoned over unseasoned. It'll save you from an entire day of having smoke in your kitchen

Also, curious what your cousin wants to so with cast iron if she doesn't intend to cook with fats. Maybe if you wait a couple months for her to get sick of burning food sticking to the pans she'll offer them to you

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Jan 7, 2013

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
The cousin sounds like the type of person that would leave the pan in the sink or wash with soap and water.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
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Soiled Meat
Soap's fine every now and then as long as its quick. I use a little soap every half dozen or so times when I wash it. I also cook wine sauces in cast iron every now and then. It's not like the Wicked Witch of the West and water.

Devoyniche, is your cousin on the paleo diet?

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Jan 7, 2013

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

axolotl farmer posted:

That's just a pic from a GIS for all the poor people who never knew the joy of plättar och sylt.

And all you need is an ordinary cast iron pan and make one big plätt instead if you don't have one of those, in finland that's what we call plättar anyway, the swedish kind are called småplättar.

Lätt som plätt.

atomic johnson
Dec 7, 2000

peeping-tom techie with x-ray eyes

Steve Yun posted:

Devoyniche, is your cousin on the paleo diet?

Anybody doing paleo is not avoiding cooking with fat. Sounds more like some Pritikin thing.

mbottoms
Nov 15, 2012

Wouldn't you like to...
I'm surprised that I haven't seen any mention of Coca-Cola in this thread. I've always used coke to recondition pans that I've picked up at thrift stores and such. rusty pans, sticky residue, unidentifiable crusties, just buy a couple 2-liters of coke and soak that beast overnight. Wash with soap the next day and cook much bacon.

mbottoms fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Jan 7, 2013

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
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Soiled Meat
Coke has roughly the same acidity as vinegar, so that makes sense

Edit: will undoubtedly smell better anyways

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jan 7, 2013

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

I prefer the smell of vinegar

Bro Enlai
Nov 9, 2008



I got a new cast iron with this tacky glue-like residue on the bottom. I've tried to get rid of it with soap and water, oil, rubbing alcohol, and plenty of time with the steel wool, but I'm still left with this darkened area (you can't see it in the picture, but it's also shiny.) The area feels normal to the touch otherwise. Is it worth continuing to pursue, or am I just looking at a blemish in the iron itself?

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
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Soiled Meat
If steel wool won't take it off, don't worry about it

blowingupcasinos
Feb 21, 2006

Steve Yun posted:

All my cast iron smokes above 400. It's just something you have to live with.

I don't think this is necessarily something that has to happen. I'm pretty sure it depends on what kind of/how much lipids are used during the seasoning.

twoot
Oct 29, 2012

I got a Lodge frying pan around 18months ago, seasoned it half-heartedly with Peanut oil and barely used it. During the weekend I stripped it down and followed the OP with Flaxseed and did 9 treatments. Today I used it for the first time to cook some bacon. Bacon cooked perfectly but the bacon juices browned on the pan and stuck. Washed it with hot water and a plastic brush, it needed a reasonable amount of force to remove the caramelised bacon stuff.

The pan now has patches of matte where before cooking it was a shiny black all over. Did I just somehow ruin the seasoning?

twoot fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Jan 14, 2013

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
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Soiled Meat
Nah just keep cooking on it with oil.

Every time you cook with it, the shininess comes off. Rub it down with a little oil after cooking (just a little) if you want it to stay shiny.

To be nonstick, it needs a few weeks of regular use.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

I hope you saved that bacon grease. I find a rasher of bacon nets me about a cup of grease, and that's great for cooking with and greasing up the pan with afterward. I keep it in a small mason jar.

Booties
Apr 4, 2006

forever and ever
I just bought a le creuset 5.5L dutch oven and cast iron skillet. I'm good to go, right?

Gilgameshback
May 18, 2010

Booties posted:

I just bought a le creuset 5.5L dutch oven and cast iron skillet. I'm good to go, right?

The Le Creuset won't need seasoning at all. What kind of skillet?

Booties
Apr 4, 2006

forever and ever

Gilgameshback posted:

The Le Creuset won't need seasoning at all. What kind of skillet?

That's good to know. I got the basic enameled skillet with pourers on each side.

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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

ashgromnies posted:

I always just cook bacon, empty out some of the grease if needed, and bake at 450 for an hour or so. Turn on a fan.

Don't forget 'disconnect smoke alarms' if you have a dog and don't want it to go ape poo poo running around the house when they start to beep.

FetusSlapper
Jan 6, 2005

by exmarx

twoot posted:

I got a Lodge frying pan around 18months ago, seasoned it half-heartedly with Peanut oil and barely used it. During the weekend I stripped it down and followed the OP with Flaxseed and did 9 treatments. Today I used it for the first time to cook some bacon. Bacon cooked perfectly but the bacon juices browned on the pan and stuck. Washed it with hot water and a plastic brush, it needed a reasonable amount of force to remove the caramelised bacon stuff.

The pan now has patches of matte where before cooking it was a shiny black all over. Did I just somehow ruin the seasoning?

You cooked bacon.. and there was built up bacon protein burnt to your pan? Turn down the heat buddy. Unless you're using the microwave, bacon takes some time to cook properly.

twoot
Oct 29, 2012

FetusSlapper posted:

You cooked bacon.. and there was built up bacon protein burnt to your pan? Turn down the heat buddy. Unless you're using the microwave, bacon takes some time to cook properly.

Nothing burned because I cook my bacon very carefully. It was a wet-cure bacon though.

FetusSlapper
Jan 6, 2005

by exmarx

twoot posted:

Nothing burned because I cook my bacon very carefully. It was a wet-cure bacon though.

"9 treatments" of flaxseed oil seasoning, and then you cooked bacon.. and it was hard to clean up. At some point something went wrong.

twoot
Oct 29, 2012

FetusSlapper posted:

"9 treatments" of flaxseed oil seasoning, and then you cooked bacon.. and it was hard to clean up. At some point something went wrong.

The pan is fine now at least. I've used it a dozen times and each time the non-stick is getting better.

Gilgameshback
May 18, 2010

Listen guys, the only way you can solve this is with a cook-off. I want to see the entire kitchen soaked with a mixture of blood, lard, and linseed oil. It should look like a Nine Inch Nails video if you're doing it right.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Do you guys find that the pan loses nonstick properties if you're cooking something starchy? I made pancakes and an omelette over the weekend, and later pancakes and the omelette stuck a little bit to the center. I lubed the pan up with bacon grease before the pancakes and again before the eggs.

Bro Enlai
Nov 9, 2008

I have that problem when I cook potatoes, too.

GoodluckJonathan
Oct 31, 2003

As a vegan, "cook a bunch of bacon on it" is not a viable way for me to season a cast iron pan so this method proved invaluable. I just finished the 6th cycle of flaxseed and am pretty happy with how it turned out.

Elizabethan Error
May 18, 2006

Wachepti posted:

As a vegan, "cook a bunch of bacon on it" is not a viable way for me to season a cast iron pan so this method proved invaluable. I just finished the 6th cycle of flaxseed and am pretty happy with how it turned out.


how about "cook a bunch of veggies in coconut oil" instead?

GoodluckJonathan
Oct 31, 2003

I've tried seasoning with peanut oil and vegetables in the past and I never got the sort of heavenly nonstick surface that everyone raves about so I decided to invest the time to do it "right." I sauteed some spinach and garlic in it this afternoon for the first time and it was amazing how much of an improvement it was over the half-assed seasoning I had before.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I've become a believer in using crisco. I've reseasoned two pans recently, and it works way better than anything else I've tried. I warm the pan up a little, then put some crisco on a side towel and rub the pan down. If the pan is warm enough, this will put a very thin layer on it. I think this is where most people gently caress up. You want enough fat on there to give it a sheen but no more. Basically, put the least amount on that you can. Then I baked it at 350 for a couple of hours. It came out looking great and is performing flawlessly. I could do extra coats if I wanted, but just one coat is performing wonderfully.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

I've become a believer in using crisco. I've reseasoned two pans recently, and it works way better than anything else I've tried. I warm the pan up a little, then put some crisco on a side towel and rub the pan down. If the pan is warm enough, this will put a very thin layer on it. I think this is where most people gently caress up. You want enough fat on there to give it a sheen but no more. Basically, put the least amount on that you can. Then I baked it at 350 for a couple of hours. It came out looking great and is performing flawlessly. I could do extra coats if I wanted, but just one coat is performing wonderfully.

I'm in the middle of doing this to one of my cast irons, after I hosed up an attempt canola seasoning. It's currently cooling down, and I'm hoping it comes out like I expected. I'm afraid it was a little uneven in places though. We'll see how it comes out.

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axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

The coating will be uneven for the first few layers, don't worry.

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