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KayTee posted:BNP in Blazers. Wait, I need to know where we are supposed to go rot in! It has to rhyme with "bad". Islamabad? Chad? Trinidad?
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Umiapik posted:Interesting question: why are the far right in the UK so incredibly bad at getting their poo poo together? In France for example, the Front National is well-organised and winning a very significant share of the vote. Contrast that with the extraordinary incoherence and incompetence that our native-born fascists display, always and at all times. You only have to read the papers (and the accompanying online comments sections) to know that there's plenty of people in the UK that distinctly lean towards their views, so how is it that they've always failed utterly to draw on that potential support? In place of any sort of slick political operation, you've got the drunken pressure group that is the EDL and the navel-gazing BNP doing their best to impersonate the Judean People's Front (Splitters!!). It's not so much the policy that does them in. It's the power and money. Nick Griffin was dodgy as gently caress even back in 1994 when his treasurers sent receipts to the News Of The World showing he used party donations to install a new kitchen in his house. When the BNP were camapigning in Barking for the 2010 General election, a FOIA request to the council revealed that during their previous tenure, around six of the 12 BNP councillors had only attended the bare minimum of 33% of meetings and all 12 had claimed the full £10,000 expenses. Also, between the lot of them, only around 50 housing caseworks were completed in the previous year while Labour's leader in the council had done over 300 alone (I lived nearby Barking during that time. Safe to say people were not amused when that tidbit came out in the papers). And a lot of the splitting that occurred afterwards was over the money and alleged misuse which lead to things getting really nasty when Griffin started kicking people out when they thought he was making the party about himself and his cash flow. The thing is, once the money and power and good times start flowing in, suddenly the ideals start becoming less of an issue for the leaders and more "How do I remain on top while I have the money and power". You can see with "Tommy Robinson" that he's hanging on tooth and claw to that power and trying everything in his arsenal to hold onto it. They can never hold together because of the money and power which ends up dividing and splitting parties. FN is just good at hiding their dodgy practices under French Privacy law (Especially when Jean Marie Le Pen started getting reporters sniffing around his way around a "Cash for questions" scandal with weapons manufacturers. He shut that down very quickly via the courts) and have a more united and structured party because they can prevent that sort of thing. They have their problems though (A chunk of their members thought Marie Le Pen getting in was through nepotism and daddy wanting her to guard his secrets). The British far-right seems to just buckle under the pressure and start fighting each other which is really what is keeping them from gaining any strength. Sex Vicar fucked around with this message at 17:00 on May 12, 2012 |
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Don't know if this guy is fash but he certainly looks like one and is certainly a rapist. Regardless, the people of Beijing demonstrate the correct response to both categories:  http://www.56.com/u43/v_NjgxNTU4ODM.html
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Umiapik posted:"And all the rest that wish us bad/ Good old? It's like three years old!
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http://libcom.org/blog/fascists-launch-failed-attack-liverpool-picket-line-10052012quote:Fascists in Liverpool have today continued with their anti-working class agenda by attempting to attack workers striking over pensions at a picket line in Bootle. nothing new here, but more evidence that the EDL and their like do not represent working class interests.
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Serotonin posted:http://libcom.org/blog/fascists-launch-failed-attack-liverpool-picket-line-10052012  Christ, this is awful. NfN is a really nice little place, though obviously its hosting of weekly socialist meetings puts a big marker out for the pondscum on 'Redwatch' and the like. Any reason why these sorts aren't put on terror watchlists, or are they only reserved for foreigners?
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Chocolate Teapot posted:Any reason why these sorts aren't put on terror watchlists, or are they only reserved for foreigners? I think they aren't just because they've been so laughably incompetent at anything other than spontaneously beating people up. Muslamic Rayguns and all that. That being said, England's got enough hate groups that needs an equivalent to the SPLC.
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Spiderfist Island posted:I think they aren't just because they've been so laughably incompetent at anything other than spontaneously beating people up. Muslamic Rayguns and all that. http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/ Searchlights pretty much your gold standard if your looking for an SPLC type thing for the UK. Nevermind the territorial pissings between the various squabbly UK anti-fascist groups, Searchlight pretty much wrote the book on research anti-fascism and the SPLC in the US, EXPO in sweden, FDB in Australia and so on just follow that rulebook They cop a bit of stick from the more radical groups for the fact they share information with police and tend to work with government a lot doing training courses and consulting with intelligence gathering, but Matthew Collins who seems to run the show these days is a solid guy with a solid perspective that ultimately lays the blame on Labor and the left for not providing a real alternative for disafected working class men looking for answers, something I agree with 100% The research these guys do is fantastic. If your interested in UK antifascism you owe it to yourself to get a subscription to their mag, even if you think they are lame-o's who need to get back into the doc martens. e: They do operate internationally via friendly groups and a bit of their own representation, but they have traditionally been a UK org. My guess though is they will be paying a LOT more focus on europe after the greek disaster. duck monster fucked around with this message at 18:27 on May 13, 2012 |
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duck monster posted:http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/ Cool, I live in America though (Great Lakes Region, so we've got their own problems to look at), but I'll be sure to keep an eye on their reports. Thanks for clearing that up.
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CxF post still in the works. (I'm actually having a bit of trouble - mostly that there's really not much to them: They're Walts, they're racist, they're incompetent and theirs barely enough of them to fill a Mini. Also the screenies I want are buried in the archives of Facebook group's godawful photo hosting system and I'm getting pissed off. Still, I've started so I'll finish) Posting, however to share the latest brainfart from the British Freedom Party, official political voice of the EDL. Headlines from the UK in the year 2030 I cannot stress enough that they actually believe this poo poo quote:Indigenous minorities still trying to have English recognised as the UK’s third language. While many are just a standard islamophobic/the left are ruining it/political correctness gawn mahd/elf 'n safty affair, some are just... Wha...? quote:Average height of professional basketball players is now nine feet, seven inches. Just where the gently caress is this coming from? e: It is not an official BFP product. It is crossposted from Barenakedislam. Because the BFP, as an official political party, are all about sharing material from known hate sites. KayTee fucked around with this message at 20:27 on May 13, 2012 |
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The EDL hates...IVF? What? I'm surprised they seem to love whales so much, though I guess it's just an excuse to hate on Japanese people. I'm trying to parse what the Grey Squirrel thing means, they want Japanese people to come and eat all the grey squirrels because they're FOREIGN squirrels? Lowest rate of tax in "decades" in 2030 is 75%...decades = 2+ decades = more than 20 years. This headline is from 18 years in the future... I like that France was taken over by "ISLAMIC COUNTRIES". Not any country inparticular, not some official alliance of countries, just Islamic ones. In general. Good thing Iran was only irradiated with radioisotopes with a really short half life! Are they insinuating they were glassed by the west, or blew themselves up because Muslamics are too dumb to use nuclear technology properly? Who is Jose Manuel Rodriguez Bush? He must be about 18 or older at the moment given the normal age for US presidents. Is he related to the Bush family, and if so, why has no one mentioned him yet?
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KayTee posted:Posting, however to share the latest brainfart from the British Freedom Party, official political voice of the EDL. These headlines are terribly written. No editor worth their salt would let those get printed, they're not punchy enough. Also lol like there's gonna be a newspaper industry in 20 years (at the current rates of circulation decline).
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I found this one rather amusing:quote:Britain now has ten Universities of Political Correctness. Professor E. Goldstein of LSPC says there is still a long way to go in the fight to stop people saying what they think. Apparently Emmanuel Goldstein didn't just go into hiding from Big Brother, he stepped through a portal through time and space to EDL Nightmare Land.
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Reveilled posted:I found this one rather amusing: In EDL Nightmare Land, Emmanuel Goldstein is on the communists' side.
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KayTee posted:While many are just a standard islamophobic/the left are ruining it/political correctness gawn mahd/elf 'n safty affair, some are just... Wha...? What the poo poo? No way are Bradford going to win silverware.
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:
Oh, Tommeh. Edit: Strif-ah Ker-not posted:*Sigh*  Breaking out the "Mohammad is a pedo" is Tommeh's default response regardless of the situation. Seriously. "Being rude to a girl on the internet" *Mohammad is a pedo* "The EDL behave violently in public" *Mohammad was a Pedo* ... For the record - Aisha was somewhere between 6-8 when she was bethrothed to Mohammad (When he was in his 20's BTW, not when he was 58/68 as Tommeh claims in the above video clip - He died in his early 60's) This young age is specified to ensure Aisha's virginity. The prophet deserved a virgin bride. Some texts claim that the marrage was consumated a few years after, making Aisha between the ages of 9-11. In 600 CE, that was the norm. The Virgin Mary wouldn't have been much older than 12. Infact modern age of concent laws, putting the average at 16 are barely 100 years old. But this is Tommeh we're dealing with - so observing that age of consent laws were different 1400 years ago is perfectly reasonable grounds to state that the Koran advocates sexual abuse of children. Because contextual thinking is for libtards and commies. KayTee fucked around with this message at 18:28 on May 15, 2012 |
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KayTee posted:But this is Tommeh we're dealing with - so observing that age of consent laws were different 1400 years ago is perfectly reasonable grounds to state that the Koran advocates sexual abuse of children. Because contextual thinking is for libtards and commies. "The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism ... For Ur-Fascism, disagreement is treason."
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KayTee posted:Some texts claim that the marrage was consumated a few years after, making Aisha between the ages of 9-11. In 600 CE, that was the norm. The Virgin Mary wouldn't have been much older than 12. Oh, yeah, I'm dying to see your source for this
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Augure posted:Oh, yeah, I'm dying to see your source for this http://www.faqs.org/childhood/A-Ar/Age-of-Consent.html Older age of consent laws are a pretty recent thing like modern medicine and just like modern medicine it's a very good thing that they're being used today.
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LP97S posted:http://www.faqs.org/childhood/A-Ar/Age-of-Consent.html Notice how I quoted the bit about "Ages 9-11" being the norm? That's decidedly pre-pubescent and was not the norm for a consummated marriage in 600 CE, 0 CE, or indeed ever.
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Augure posted:Notice how I quoted the bit about "Ages 9-11" being the norm? That's decidedly pre-pubescent and was not the norm for a consummated marriage in 600 CE, 0 CE, or indeed ever. You're right. I shouldn't have made a definitive statement there. I have no information on the sexual practices of people over 1000 years ago and should not, and cannot, have made the assumption that it was "the norm". You're quite right to call me out on that one. However, I don't believe that sexual activity or marriage with very young children was rare back then. Hell - it happens today. Add to that the fact that girls are capable of carrying a child full term when barely 11 years old (I can't BELIEVE I'm linking to a Daily Mail article to support me) - as well as a (again, presumed but I'd hope you'll agree), quite likely desire to have as many kids as possible as fast as possible, and it seems to me you have the groundwork set up, in all cultures, for sexually active pre-pubescent girls. While I'm at it I'll also point out that I was wrong about the Virgin Mary too... It seems she was, specifically, 14 when married to Joseph. New Advent, Catholic Encyclopedia posted:When she was fourteen, the high priest wished to send her home for marriage. Mary reminded him of her vow of virginity, and in his embarrassment the high priest consulted the Lord. Then he called all the young men of the family of David, and promised Mary in marriage to him whose rod should sprout and become the resting place of the Holy Ghost in form of a dove. It was Joseph who was privileged in this extraordinary way. New Advent states that this passage is from "Apocryphal" writings, and handily sends me to an antry tellimg me what Apocryphal writings are, but deosn't tell me which apocriphal writings has Joeseph's rod doing odd things. Seriously, what the hell is going on there?
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Welp, we knew they'd go there eventually...  STILL working on CXF. Possible excuses: 1, I now have Netflix. 2, Am strangely addicted to Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 3, Seriously making Jobseeking progress - may actually have found someone to hire me. 4, The CxF are really dumb. Trying to write the thing and making it sound liek I'm not making it all up is difficult. 5, Facebook photo albums gently caress YOU! 6, Seriously - I am a tragic procrastinator.
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KayTee posted:Welp, we knew they'd go there eventually... The sad thing is I could easily see this being posted by my dad. It's really disheartening how his friends have twisted his anger at his lot in life into a hatred of Jews and other groups. Thank you for making this thread. It should give me some ammunition next time a family members pledges to vote for the EDL/BNP and other right wing shits.
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KayTee posted:Welp, we knew they'd go there eventually...  Isn't open Holocaust denial new for them? It doesn't suprise me that that sort of thinking is prevailent in the EDL, but I didn't think they'd go beyond vagely hinting at it or something.And yeah, seconding what Flython said, this is a great thread.
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Eggn0g posted:
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KayTee posted:Welp, we knew they'd go there eventually... Isn't the CXF at this point like six dudes sitting round in a lovely pub exaggerating stories about how they totally hosed up this haji, you shoulda seen it mate, I woulda gone for selection but it's full of fuckin' haggis-eaters, they aint even real brits, come on whose round is it
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KayTee posted:New Advent states that this passage is from "Apocryphal" writings, and handily sends me to an antry tellimg me what Apocryphal writings are, but deosn't tell me which apocriphal writings has Joeseph's rod doing odd things. Seriously, what the hell is going on there? We really missed out by making this Apocrypha. Joseph wed Mary because a dove landed on his boner would have made religion class so much better.
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duck monster posted:Shariah finance is basically awesome finance. Shariah law forbids ursury, the charging of interest on loans, so basically the bank buys the house and over time you buy it off them bit by bit, and during that time you are a co-owner. The bank charges some fees here and there, to make its profits, but generally it works out cheaper as your not getting slaughtered by the whims of the market and interest rates. But it's worth noting that until a few years ago when the previous government enacted an exception they would be significantly more expensive. The bank buying the property then selling it to you meant that stamp duty was effectively doubled. This kind of legal change "pandering" to Muslims, as harmless as it is, does not sit well with the EDL etc.
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Anti-Jubilee Protester Set Alight At Newcastle EDL Demonstrationquote:A teenager was taken to hospital when his hair was set alight by English Defence League supporters who attacked an anti-Jubilee party in Newcastle. Link has video.
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Video broken for anyone else? Anyway, here's a photo from the same event. NB the slogan emblazoned on the Union Jack. 
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Cerv posted:Anyway, here's a photo from the same event. NB the slogan emblazoned on the Union Jack. That looks like a loving advice animal meme. It's got the same font and everything.
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Cerv posted:Video broken for anyone else? Works for me in Chrome. v  vI like how they use the impact font for their 14 words banner, it makes it look like a lovely meme. In the video you can also see them give the Nazi salute.
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Orwell posted:Nor did any strong native Fascist movement grow up. Material conditions were not bad enough, and no leader who could be taken seriously was forthcoming. One would have had to look a long time to find a man more barren of ideas than Sir Oswald Mosley. He was as hollow as a jug. Even the elementary fact that Fascism must not offend national sentiment had escaped him. His entire movement was imitated slavishly from abroad, the uniform and the party programme from Italy and the salute from Germany, with the Jew-baiting tacked on as an afterthought, Mosley having actually started his movement with Jews among his most prominent followers. A man of the stamp of Bottomley or Lloyd George could perhaps have brought a real British Fascist movement into existence. But such leaders only appear when the psychological need for them exists.
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Ichabod Sexbeast posted:Welp, time to join ANTIFA Any time is a good time! https://www.google.com/search?q=antifa+uk
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Tias posted:Any time is a good time! First result... quote:Well basically we exist to destroy the lies and misinformation that the clowns from antifa like to indulge in. Their hard man antifascist street war is little more than a gay little fantasy taken up by a bunch of crusty anarchist types and their little student followers. We don’t take these little cockroaches seriously at all but it is well worth 5 minutes of my time to tear down their claims and have a laugh with you guys while doing it. quote:This blog is here for the entertainment of EVERYONE and we have no official political afilliations or motivations, this is purely for exposing the communist freaks who go around trying to harm normal people.  I can't even work out if this is a parody or what.
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