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Apr 18, 2009

Not an Anthem posted:

I'll definitely say your partisan BS about wanting to identify with a "traditional left" shows the same ignorance as the EDL does with wanting to identify with a "traditional right." You're both a bunch of ignorant twits just looking to fight. The EDL needs its head kicked in, not trotskyist indoctrination. Cut your partisan horseshit out, don't pay politicians any mind and organize neighborhoods to shut them out and shut them up. If you look at any history of kicking nazi heads in the UK that's exactly what you see. Cut out the party politics.

I don't get it, who are you satirising? Liberals in general?

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Apr 18, 2009

Umiapik posted:

Interesting question: why are the far right in the UK so incredibly bad at getting their poo poo together? In France for example, the Front National is well-organised and winning a very significant share of the vote. Contrast that with the extraordinary incoherence and incompetence that our native-born fascists display, always and at all times. You only have to read the papers (and the accompanying online comments sections) to know that there's plenty of people in the UK that distinctly lean towards their views, so how is it that they've always failed utterly to draw on that potential support? In place of any sort of slick political operation, you've got the drunken pressure group that is the EDL and the navel-gazing BNP doing their best to impersonate the Judean People's Front (Splitters!!).

Perhaps the liberal metropolitan elite is to blame for frustrating the ambitions of true sons of British soil?

Our bourgeoisie don't feel threatened by progressive movements (whether Correct or incorrect) so they don't need to fund the fascists as a bulwark against revolution, said liberal funding being the source of the organisational successes of other European fascists

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Apr 18, 2009

KayTee posted:

But this is Tommeh we're dealing with - so observing that age of consent laws were different 1400 years ago is perfectly reasonable grounds to state that the Koran advocates sexual abuse of children. Because contextual thinking is for libtards and commies.

"The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism ... For Ur-Fascism, disagreement is treason."

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Apr 18, 2009

Orwell posted:

Nor did any strong native Fascist movement grow up. Material conditions were not bad enough, and no leader who could be taken seriously was forthcoming. One would have had to look a long time to find a man more barren of ideas than Sir Oswald Mosley. He was as hollow as a jug. Even the elementary fact that Fascism must not offend national sentiment had escaped him. His entire movement was imitated slavishly from abroad, the uniform and the party programme from Italy and the salute from Germany, with the Jew-baiting tacked on as an afterthought, Mosley having actually started his movement with Jews among his most prominent followers. A man of the stamp of Bottomley or Lloyd George could perhaps have brought a real British Fascist movement into existence. But such leaders only appear when the psychological need for them exists.

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Apr 18, 2009

Pope Guilty posted:

I would bet anything that that's somebody's house.

A house with a certain child's plastic playhouse in the backyard

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Apr 18, 2009

KayTee posted:

This is what you'd call a near-insignificant sample.

Actually that is pretty worrying if it's true
http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

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Apr 18, 2009
Personally I think the blame for the resurgence in pseudo-Fascism in the UK can be placed squarely on the shoulders of Thatcher for her role in dismantling the influence on individuals of the community (and thus allowing a narrative of nationalism to develop to replace that hole in the easily manipulated) and for turning popular opinion against trade unionism and socialism which historically have been the front line in the fight against Fascism.

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Apr 18, 2009
Does the government really fund training paramilitary training courses for ex-Armed forces or is he being desweedeful?

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Apr 18, 2009
The only study I could find on animal distress during slaughter concluded that ritual cuts caused faster death and less pain for larger livestock like cows and sheep but more pain for smaller livestock like chickens than mechanical and boltgun slaughtering. This was due to massive variation in effectiveness of boltguns as Fluo said. It measured pain by levels of brain activity iirc. The study was carried out by an Islamic advisory group of some kind (obv. Islamo-Marxist propaganda)

HUMAN DECENCY? FOR MUSLIMS? GOOD LORD

Enjoy fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Aug 28, 2012

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Apr 18, 2009
"Nick Griffin is a Nazi" does have a lot more clarity

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Apr 18, 2009
Does anyone think we will see more crossover between Ulster loyalists and the EDL in the future? I know the latter is sympathetic towards the former, are terrorist training camps with ex-UDF etc instructors likely?
I'd think that so long as the EDL continue to get marginalised by society we won't have to worry about them taking themselves seriously. So long as the members just see it as a chance to get pissed and beat people up they hopefully won't take things to the level of bombings and assassinations.

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By saying that he was sane, it gives a certain credibility to what he had been saying
Pretty robust logic

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Apr 18, 2009
For a moment I forgot the EDL and BNP were separate groups. Is there a lot of rivalry between them at the level of leadership, competition for funding/members/resources? I'd guess the membership between the two is fluid since the members don't personally gain from which is more influential.

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Apr 18, 2009
What is so great about British culture anyway? In my opinion the best parts of British culture are in accepting freedom, difference, the rule of law and egalitarianism. I would really like to know your perspective since you clearly have an authoritarian personality.

British Tim posted:

I find it so ironic that the liberals
Why are you using an Americanisation, Proud British Man?

British Tim posted:

the real injustice is that the immigrants are refusing to assimilate
This is not an injustice you big baby

vvv fml vvv

Enjoy fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Sep 10, 2012

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Apr 18, 2009

British Tim posted:

You are British, you should know that you can't define a single British culture. Us English, the Irish, the Scottish and the Welsh all have our own cultures and traditions.

Could you answer my question please

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Apr 18, 2009
He lives in London above an Eel and Pie shop, lovely nosh

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Apr 18, 2009
This is an actual known image of British Tim IRL (thanks to MI5 + Mossad for this scoop)

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Apr 18, 2009

Conspiracy and inciting terrorism are pretty serious offences right? I hope they've gone to the police with statements!

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Apr 18, 2009
Fascists advocating proportional representation? This is some kind of trick. Most authoritarian right-wingers complain about democracy interfering with Good, Strong Men using their Common Sense to interpret the Organic (lefties stole that word) Will of the People

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