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UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



bows1 posted:

For some reason I had it in my mind that Scorcese was doing this production, and seeing Baz Luhrmann and the visuals really threw me for a loop.
Scorcese was the director of Gatsby on Entourage.

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

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exquisite tea posted:

I love that Amitabh Bachchan is going to be in this movie.

Oh, THAT'S who that is. He's looking like the Dos Equis guy nowadays.

bows1
May 16, 2004

Chill, whale, chill

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

Scorcese was the director of Gatsby on Entourage.

poo poo is that what it was? Thats sad

Padgjj
Jan 4, 2008
Never trouble trouble 'til trouble troubles you

Well, I definitely want to watch it right loving now, so yeah.

EDIT: Also, Kiimo, holy yes I've been sold on that 'Gangster Squad' trailer and I usually just go by criticism and word of mouth. The modern music usage is just slight and subtle enough to not come across as crass but build excitement for a new take on the classic crime genre.

Padgjj fucked around with this message at 03:52 on May 24, 2012

Padgjj
Jan 4, 2008
Never trouble trouble 'til trouble troubles you

DNS posted:

Am I the only one who thinks Gatsby looks like feces in cinema form?
Agreed, I would say that I've almost never enjoyed this kind of garish, overexposed style but I love the look of some Tarsem Singh films. Maybe it's the use of CG instead of practical effects but I would never pay to see this film. This kind of almost entirely green-screened style rarely works for me. I saw the 'Phantom Menance' at age 13 so maybe that spoiled me on it.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Reich Joyce posted:

Agreed, I would say that I've almost never enjoyed this kind of garish, overexposed style but I love the look of some Tarsem Singh films. Maybe it's the use of CG instead of practical effects but I would never pay to see this film. This kind of almost entirely green-screened style rarely works for me. I saw the 'Phantom Menance' at age 13 so maybe that spoiled me on it.

Uh, what CG? I mean, aside from some of the shots of the city, and maybe those fireworks (and there might have been a few other small things), that was it. All those sets were built, and I'm sure every nook and cranny was designed, because that's how Luhrmann rolls. The scenes are crowded, and fantastic, but not fake.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

How the hell did he shoot some of those establishing shots with all the neon signs then? That can't have been cheap.

Plus a lot of those sets look fake as hell anyway. It's a fair stylistic choice to be sure, but one I find deeply unattractive even knowing that the story lends itself to that style.

The impression I got was "here's the new standard you can show to high schoolers because the Robert Redford version is too dated", not really "this is going to be something great that you've never seen before."

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

mind the walrus posted:

How the hell did he shoot some of those establishing shots with all the neon signs then? That can't have been cheap.

I think that's part of the city shots he was talking about.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

mind the walrus posted:

The impression I got was "here's the new standard you can show to high schoolers because the Robert Redford version is too dated", not really "this is going to be something great that you've never seen before."

The Redford one looked like it was dated the moment it came out, it was so boring and lifeless, compared to what it should be (and what this one looks to be). I mean, there's only so much you can do with a classic novel. You can certainly reimagine it, and some people want to and will do that (there's a play off-Broadway that's a cool reimagining of the book that I didn't see only because it was something like 5 hours long), but this looks to be a pretty straightforward adaptation of the book, but with Baz Luhrmann's signature style, which happens to compliment the book rather nicely.

It will be shown to high school classes across the nation the moment it comes out on DVD, assuming it's not just horrid, because it has recognizable names, and looks to be pretty close to the book itself, that's not really a statement on it's quality at all. After all, I watched To Kill A Mockingbird in my english class after reading the novel, and that's definitely not "something great you've never seen before", but more like "a fantastic adaptation of a fantastic book", and that's a fantastic movie in it's own right.

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.



Not a lot of trailers have stood out to me, but there are a few that I still watch sometimes because they just did such a good job of selling me on the movie. One is the long trailer for the recent Star Trek reboot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ETDE0VGJY4

The music, the imagery, the Bruce Greenwood voice over at the start :swoon:. I was never a fan of Star Trek growing up and aside from random snippets of TOS or TNG, I never watched any of the shows. I'd seen a few of the films when they came on cable at random times, but not because I went looking for them. I know a lot of people feel like it's just a random science fiction/action movie with Star Trek signifiers pasted on, or dislike Abrams take on the mythology, but the trailer (and the movie) got me into Star Trek in a way that nothing else did before.

And the other trailer I really like is the one for The Fountain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAuxryJ6pv8

Love or hate the actual movie (my friends and I still have debates to this day over just what the gently caress the plot was and whose viewpoint it was from) I felt like the trailer did a good job of selling the film and piquing interest, although the tone of the trailer didn't exactly match up to the overall tone of the film.

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



mind the walrus posted:


The impression I got was "here's the new standard you can show to high schoolers because the Robert Redford version is too dated", not really "this is going to be something great that you've never seen before."

As a high school English teacher I can assure you that every adaptation of a widely taught novel/play/etc is this.

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

I might as well post this over here too. I'm really proud of this trailer. Buddha Jones did it and they/we/my boss pulled off the impossible.

I'm proud of it because it is pretty easy to make a good film look good. But to make this look remotely scary...that's just talent.

Think about the intention of advertising and do yourself a favor and heed my implied warning about the pitfalls of believing everything you see.


http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/theapparition/

qntm
Jun 17, 2009

MatCauthon posted:

Not a lot of trailers have stood out to me, but there are a few that I still watch sometimes because they just did such a good job of selling me on the movie. One is the long trailer for the recent Star Trek reboot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ETDE0VGJY4

The music, the imagery, the Bruce Greenwood voice over at the start :swoon:. I was never a fan of Star Trek growing up and aside from random snippets of TOS or TNG, I never watched any of the shows. I'd seen a few of the films when they came on cable at random times, but not because I went looking for them. I know a lot of people feel like it's just a random science fiction/action movie with Star Trek signifiers pasted on, or dislike Abrams take on the mythology, but the trailer (and the movie) got me into Star Trek in a way that nothing else did before.

We should definitely talk about trailer music. The right choice of music seems to be incredibly important to making a trailer leave you (or me, at any rate) feeling the right way about the movie. It seems like Nine Inch Nails' music is made for or even made in the universe presented in Terminator: Salvation trailer. Then you have inspired use of The Prodigy's "Invaders Must Die" as the backdrop for hypercharged comic-book fights in the trailer for Scott Pilgrim Versus The World:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NUBVcit5VM

and The Servant's "Cells" for Sin City:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKFLrTYKIXk.

But then that Star Trek trailer (whose effectiveness is blatantly three-quarters down to the music) is "Freedom Fighters" by Two Steps From Hell, who you've never heard of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJm6b-o2pTM

They seem to be an outfit dedicated to the production of trailer music. Other artists in this area are Zack Hemsey, responsible for "Mind Heist", for the Inception trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOJqicM6x84

and Methodic Doubt. This one was for X-Men: First Class:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htAGR6UnJ6I

Also Immediate Music, Future World Music, Audiomachine, somebody called X-Ray Dog (?) and others. This is a great little genre of music: generally fairly orchestral pieces lasting about two and a half minutes but with big, immediately enjoyable themes which quickly build to a climax.

Trailer music isn't usually by the same artist as the movie's score (if it has one) and so doesn't usually find its way onto the movie soundtrack albums, which is disappointing in many cases.

qntm fucked around with this message at 19:38 on May 25, 2012

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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qntm posted:

Trailer music isn't usually by the same artist as the movie's score

Trailer music is usually Lux Aeterna by the Kronos Quartet, or some other piece taken from another movie's score.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Speaking of Two Steps from Hell: if there's any song that comes close to being used as much as Lux Aeterna, it's this one.
e;f,b on the Lux Aeterna mention
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRLdhFVzqt4

Or any song from E.S. Posthumus' album "Unearthed" for that matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AEU5pBxY6E

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Mierenneuker posted:

Speaking of Two Steps from Hell: if there's any song that comes close to being used as much as Lux Aeterna, it's this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRLdhFVzqt4

Or any song from E.S. Posthumus' album "Unearthed" for that matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AEU5pBxY6E

I've never heard either of those two songs in a trailer that I recall. Link/name a few examples?

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


MatCauthon posted:

And the other trailer I really like is the one for The Fountain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAuxryJ6pv8

The teaser for this is so minimal yet absolutely perfect for the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF-IjO9w3zM

Those drums :swoon:

Jedit posted:

I've never heard either of those two songs in a trailer that I recall. Link/name a few examples?

I don't know about either of those (the 2nd one sounds REALLY familiar) but E.S. Posthumus' "Unstoppable" was used in both Sherlock Holmes trailers (which were amazing)

Happy Noodle Boy fucked around with this message at 20:11 on May 25, 2012

Jenny Angel
Oct 24, 2010

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Heart of Courage was used for Mass Effect 2, and the youtube comments suggest it was also in one of the Lord of the Rings films.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Jonny Angel posted:

Lord of the Rings films.

The Lux Aeterna arrangement done for the Two Towers was great. I think it was called Requiem For the Ring, but I don't know if that was official or what. Still a great song that made that trailer really stick out in my mind.

To answer an earlier question, the most prominent use of an E.S. Posthumus song I can think of is from the Spider-man 1 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN3YaybNJ2s. I don't hear it much nowadays, but I do remember it being used often. Another one that I don't hear much nowadays but heard everywhere was Craig Armstrong's Escape (from the soundtrack of Plunkett and Macleane). The trailer that sticks out for that song is for The Musketeer (god this trailer seemed so badass when I first saw it at a young, impressionable age): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvBmkpvDQp4.

Along with Lux Aeterna, I think a lot of trailers use the theme from Sunshine often too. I sadly can't remember any trailer that uses it off the top of my head, but I do remember thinking it sort of came out of nowhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQXVzg2PiZw. I think John Murphy's In the House, In A Heartbeat from 28 Days Later is also used pretty often, but again I can't remember a trailer off the top of my head.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
If one of my books is ever made into a movie, I want Two Steps From Hell's 'Chopperhead' to be the trailer music. You could use it over the trailer for On Golden Pond and it would make it seem like the most kick-rear end thing ever.

Farbtoner
May 17, 2011

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I don't know if it's the same way for everyone else in the rest of the world, but in America we have a somewhat unique way of advertising foreign films: we completely obscure the fact that the film is in another language since people have a weird aversion to subtitles. It's kind of interesting from a production standpoint to see how they edit it (Jean-Pierre Jeunet's Micmacs looks way more goofy because the trailer is just all the non-vocal slapstick and weird side characters, Pan's Labyrinth used two minutes of effects shots that made it look like it was a pure fantasy movie and not a historical drama with a few fantasy sequences) but I feel sorry for all the guys at Blockbuster who had to talk down the millionth angry soccer mom about how the movie wasn't in American.

Namaste
May 5, 2007
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EDIT: Nevermind, I was totally wrong.

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Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

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Illegal Hen
The latest Brave tv commercial featured music by the Dropkick Murphy's "I'm Shipping Up to Boston." They're an Irish punk band. :negative:

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

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Smile, you fuck.
I kept meaning to post this.

I can't remember the movie, but it was something geared mostly towards younger audiences, so they played a few kiddie trailers. First one that came up was The Pirates! Band of Misfits:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxJVHv_bmhk

Pretty standard stuff, really wants to sell you on the jokes, the zany antics, etc. You get wacky voices, a few over-the-top sound effects, and The Ramones' most popular song. I mean it's Aardman, of course there's more to it (apparently much more, it turns out), but it's really very safe.

Which made this stand out all the more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVEGvdpLmJI

Look at that. Look at that loving trailer. No sound effects, not even for title cards, except for at the very end. Sold ENTIRELY on creepy visuals, set to Donovan's "Season of the Witch", and the tag line is slick and evocative without being corny.

Of course, everyone in the theater was put off by it, because it was "weird" and "gross."

Screw 'em.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

Jedit posted:

Trailer music is usually Lux Aeterna by the Kronos Quartet, or some other piece taken from another movie's score.

Another common quotation is "The Office" from Michael Kamen's score for Brazil. (Starts at around 0:20)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvo6ChoKCF4

Shanty
Nov 7, 2005

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Maxwell Lord posted:

Another common quotation is "The Office" from Michael Kamen's score for Brazil. (Starts at around 0:20)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvo6ChoKCF4

God, halfway through this I can almost hear the record scratch and subsequent Smash Mouth number.

Nybble
Jun 28, 2008

praise chuck, raise heck

Shanty posted:

God, halfway through this I can almost hear the record scratch and subsequent Smash Mouth number.

Or Wall-E. The trailer came to mind instantly.

VVV :roboluv:

Nybble fucked around with this message at 16:07 on May 29, 2012

TheBigBudgetSequel
Nov 25, 2008

It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.

Maxwell Lord posted:

Another common quotation is "The Office" from Michael Kamen's score for Brazil. (Starts at around 0:20)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvo6ChoKCF4

The trailers for Wall-E used this and it was perfect.

Edit: Oh come on.

TheBigBudgetSequel fucked around with this message at 15:58 on May 29, 2012

Ishamael
Feb 18, 2004

You don't have to love me, but you will respect me.
So, the trailer for the musical version of Les Miserables is out, and I have to say, it looks pretty excellent. It has the epic scope that it should, and Jackman looks great as Valjean.

Now the big question will be - can the 2 big stars (Jackman and Crowe) pull off the vocals? Gerard Butler's weak performance as the Phantom tanked that movie, hopefully these 2 can hold their own. Jackman has a strong theater background, but I don't know if I have ever heard Crowe sing.


EDIT: new link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGyiq2ElZqw

Ishamael fucked around with this message at 19:13 on May 30, 2012

DNS
Mar 11, 2009

by Smythe
Crowe has actually had a long (if not storied) musical career:

TheBigBudgetSequel
Nov 25, 2008

It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.

Ishamael posted:

So, the trailer for the musical version of Les Miserables is out, and I have to say, it looks pretty excellent. It has the epic scope that it should, and Jackman looks great as Valjean.

Now the big question will be - can the 2 big stars (Jackman and Crowe) pull off the vocals? Gerard Butler's weak performance as the Phantom tanked that movie, hopefully these 2 can hold their own. Jackman has a strong theater background, but I don't know if I have ever heard Crowe sing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3uUTKOUhZU

Don't worry about Jackman. The man can sing like a bird. I have the London Cast version of Oklahoma! soundtrack, and he's loving great in it. I have no doubt he'll be perfect.

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

So...that's the best take they could get from Anne Hathaway?

Ugh. Go away forever Anne Hathaway.


edit: For posterity, here's someone who can actually control their vibrato...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA5cU6xTc68


Or if your tastes run this way...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBg2-oZClS0


I'm just saying there are tons of people who could pull this song off looking at Anne Hathaway up there and shaking their heads. Just for star power and her acting style that I never fail to see right through.


edit2: I can't believe Lea Michele didn't get this role. I'd take her pretentiousness in a second to get her voice on this. Also I might take Les Miserables a bit too seriously.

kiimo fucked around with this message at 16:18 on May 30, 2012

TheBigBudgetSequel
Nov 25, 2008

It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.

kiimo posted:

So...that's the best take they could get from Anne Hathaway?

Ugh. Go away forever Anne Hathaway.

Your taste in actors never fails to amuse me, kiimo.

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

TheBigBudgetSequel posted:

Your taste in actors never fails to amuse me, kiimo.

Every time Nic Cage gets a role I'm reminded that I'm forever alone with my opinions.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.
I liked the trailer and I liked the singing. Obviously it wasn't Lea Michele-good, but Hathaway's a great actress. Why bother doing a new version of the film and sticking to the same-old?

Ishamael
Feb 18, 2004

You don't have to love me, but you will respect me.

LesterGroans posted:

I liked the trailer and I liked the singing. Obviously it wasn't Lea Michele-good, but Hathaway's a great actress. Why bother doing a new version of the film and sticking to the same-old?

Yeah, I felt that what she might have lacked in technical expertise, she made up for with emotion. I am usually the most critical of performances, but I liked her take on it.

(Ruthie Henshall is my favorite of the Fantines I have heard, personally)

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

Okay I'm going to stop bitching about Anne, people do like her. But I think the direction of this trailer is wrong.

This is the most famous song of the musical, made stratosphere-level famous by Susan Boyle.

I can practically hear the execs talking about this in the meetings. Mix Anne Hathaway who is the top talent in the film in terms of star power and match her up with "I Dreamed a Dream" which is the top song in terms of recognition BOOM you've got yourself a trailer with built-in audiences and will put people in seats!

But however many tens of millions of people watched the Susan Boyle rendition are all thinking that her performance is miles above of Anne's. They're probably annoyed too, though I haven't looked around. I think this actually will do the opposite and drive them away from the film.

But then again they probably have testing to back them up and I just have my irrational hatred of this actress so that's a perfect example of why testing is what drives movie marketing.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.
Going off of that, I know tons of former drama nerds who will see the film just so they can bitch about the performances and that their favourite cast member isn't in the film.

So maybe it's actually a genius marketing move!

TheBigBudgetSequel
Nov 25, 2008

It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.
I think only one member of the movie cast has ever been in a Les Mis production before, so, that's a whole lot of bitching.

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kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

Okay I just found out Sacha Baron Cohen and Helena Bonham Carter are the inn keeper and his wife and that is fantastic.

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