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Lol, yeah, they are just stuck on with double sided tape too haha. Seems mega sketchy, but I guess that even if the tape fails then it's not a big deal, the fan would just drop a bit into the case. Guy has been running it like that for a year now. Thy did it to fit into a SFF case, but I just want to make it a bit quieter, and £50 or so seems more reasonable than £270 for the water cooling thing I was eyeing up. He says it was about 10c cooler and far quieter, so fingers crossed.
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YerDa Zabam posted:Haha, by a strange coincidence, I'm about to do this sort of thing to my 4090. Weird this person put their arm in an extra thick cable sleeve......
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Braided Brad. Sleeved from top to toe.
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I've been reading a lot about CPU bottle necking and see a ton of conflicting information. I'm hoping this thread can set me straight because I need a little more FPS on my 1440p monitor. So i currently have a AMD Ryzen 7 3700x and 32gb ram and I want to get a 4070 but sites like userbenchmark say my CPU will bottleneck the GPU and then I read forums that say that kind of talk is exaggerated and I should still be happy with the performance increase. I've been on the fence for a few weeks now on wether to buy a whole new rig(i dont really want to as this one is fast) or to buy just a new GPU and that's where I freeze because I don't know what GPU to buy. Hoping you guys can help me! Also my monitor has freesync if that matters.
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My only advice is to absolutely, completely ignore userbenchmark.
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Userbenchmark makes up tests designed to gently caress AMD over. The guy who runs it is a loving nutjob.
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Jiro posted:Weird this person put their arm in an extra thick cable sleeve...... Its a two-in-one cable sleeve and GPU support!
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Kazinsal posted:Userbenchmark makes up tests designed to gently caress AMD over. The guy who runs it is a loving nutjob. Well then It looks legit! But drat that sucks i've been fretting over a GPU because of that site for a long time lmao. Guess I'm gonna just get the 4070 and enjoy it.
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YerDa Zabam posted:Lol, yeah, they are just stuck on with double sided tape too haha. Seems mega sketchy, but I guess that even if the tape fails then it's not a big deal, the fan would just drop a bit into the case. Guy has been running it like that for a year now. If you’re gonna go for a jank build, I’m a firm airplane snips and zip tie proponent. If it’s worth doing, it’s worth doing well and that applies to jank too 
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Vir posted:What would be the sweet spot for playing Cyberpunk 2077 with raytracing on in 1080p? 4070 Ti? Based on the price to performance, it almost looks like going for a 3080 is a more economical choice. With DLSS assist the 4070ti will do Cyberpunk RT Ultra at a pretty stable 1440p 60fps (that's how I played it personally), for 1080p you can absolutely get by with a 4070 Super unless you're getting a hella deal on a 3080.
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Fallows posted:Well then It looks legit! But drat that sucks i've been fretting over a GPU because of that site for a long time lmao. It's really going to depend on the games you play, and which GPU you're currently running. As a rule, most FPS games will run perfectly well at 1440p with a 3700/4070 combo. You're unlikely to see CPU bottlenecks at 1440 on RT titles like CP2077 etc unless you're running lower detail levels to target 144hz+ specifically (don't). Baldur's Gate 3 and Starfield if I recall have some pretty CPU-heavy areas, but they're somewhat outliers at the moment. Management games such as Cities Skylines 2, Transport Fever etc are more CPU-intensive and are more likely to hitch and chug on the older CPU. If I were in your position I would absolutely get the 4070 now, and then consider throwing in a cheap 5700x or one of the X3D chips if you're finding it's an issue with the games you play - otherwise I'd hang out until Zen 5 if it seems alright.
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We're starting to see games stress out CPUs (BG3 and Dragon's Dogma 2 are just two recent examples) so I'm not sure the old advice of "buy as much GPU as you can first then see about the CPU" is always true these days Anyway, depends on what Fallow's current GPU is as well
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shrike82 posted:We're starting to see games stress out CPUs (BG3 and Dragon's Dogma 2 are just two recent examples) so I'm not sure the old advice of "buy as much GPU as you can first then see about the CPU" is always true these days 100%. Also driven by the emergence of actual bonafide improvement in CPU performance, which had effectively stalled from sandy bridge until the Zen 2 release lit a fire under Intel. Before Zen2 we were basically getting single digit IPC gains dressed up with some reasonable power and QoL improvements, but nothing that really had an impact for gaming. Most people were fine to sit on a 2700k all the way through to the release of Ampere and RDNA2 and not be reasonably disadvantaged, especially in 1440p gaming. CPU became an absolute afterthought for average gamers on midrange GPUs - if you had an i5/i7 that could boost near enough to 4ghz you were good. I definitely don't remember this being the case in the past - before I got my 2500K, GPU and CPU upgrades were roughly 1:1, and I typically won't upgrade either unless something's broken or I can't play the games I want to play anymore. Since I swapped that out for a Zen+ I've been back to 1:1. Spose current gen console CPUs not being laughably bad compared to an average gaming PC at the time has helped things along a bit also.
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There were significant performance improvements after sandy bridge. A 6700K could kick the poo poo out of a 2700K. The stagnation at Intel really didn't begin until after Skylake.
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Fallows posted:Well then It looks legit! But drat that sucks i've been fretting over a GPU because of that site for a long time lmao. I recently grabbed a 4070 as an upgrade to my 5700xt and I've been really happy with it, I was planning on grabbing a 5700x3d to replace my 3600 (which doesn't even run stable with CPB so even slower than usual) but it's been enough of an overall improvement that I'm putting off the CPU upgrade for a while.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:There were significant performance improvements after sandy bridge. A 6700K could kick the poo poo out of a 2700K. The stagnation at Intel really didn't begin until after Skylake. In terms of raw IPC I'm sure that's true, especially if you were able to run DDR4 at decent speeds at the time - but I definitely remember popping into the Intel thread every time a new line of chips came out, and the general consensus being that CPU upgrades were a poor value proposition for sandy-bridge-havers. That said you're probably right, and it was more a factor that the games themselves weren't particularly CPU-hungry so the relative performance improvement of Skylake over Sandy Bridge played less of a part. Also gamers/DIY-ers running Sandy Bridge CPUs past 2016 were mostly also running them overclocked to buggery, in the 4.4-4.8ghz range, keeping them competitive for longer.
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old news now and dragon's dogma 2 isn't the norm but still find the cpu numbers for it bizarre
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shrike82 posted:We're starting to see games stress out CPUs (BG3 and Dragon's Dogma 2 are just two recent examples) so I'm not sure the old advice of "buy as much GPU as you can first then see about the CPU" is always true these days You're still getting much better mileage out of the GPU most of the time but AM4 having an actual upgrade path does help.
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Get the cheapest X3D CPU you can afford then spend the rest on GPU.
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Thanks for the tip about the 4070 Super. I'll definitely upgrade in time for Kingdome Come: Deliverance II at the very least.
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devastating, vague rumours that nvidia might be working directly in league with the sff perverts: https://wccftech.com/nvidia-partners-create-new-sff-gaming-pc-ecosystem-powered-sff-enthusiast-geforce-gpus/ quote:We have learned that NVIDIA is working with its partners which not only include AICs (graphics card makers) but also chassis, PSU, manufacturers, etc, to put together components that are perfect for SFF builds. quote:NVIDIA will be laying out SFF guidelines which will be passed over to its partners & eventually help gamers build these compact PCs. The guidelines will include the creation of a standard for AICs & chassis manufacturers based on dimensions and clearances between enthusiast GPUs and SFF PC chassis. Following is the main description of the new ecosystem: maybe we'll have high-range cards that aren't the size of briefcases some day
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^^^  kliras posted:devastating, vague rumours that nvidia might be working directly in league with the sff perverts:
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kliras posted:devastating, vague rumours that nvidia might be working directly in league with the sff perverts: Took 'em long enough....plenty of AIBs have been making custom SFF cards for years
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I hope they can have a normalised shroud so they can be physically part of the case, I love the builds where the card is just flush with the case exterior, no impediment to airflow
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shrike82 posted:old news now and dragon's dogma 2 isn't the norm but still find the cpu numbers for it bizarre Lol jesus christ this sucks, I was planning on giving my friend my old 5600X and it's already struggling in new games
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In most other areas, DD2 is actually significantly less broken and buggy than other open world RPGs, but it has serious performance problems. The RE engine is excellent for the types of games Capcom typically makes, but this is the first open world game they tried to use it for and it is not going well. Capcom has identified some of the key causes of the issues though and claimed they're working on it, so we'll see.
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If you watch a lot of youtube, are the RTX video enhancement features (the super resolution and 'HDR") good enough to just turn on and forget? Also does anyone know if it works for every video source (like including Stremio app) or if it's for web players, or what?
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change my name posted:Lol jesus christ this sucks, I was planning on giving my friend my old 5600X and it's already struggling in new games I wouldn't consider DD2 to be the bar by which you judge a processor. By all indications the game is incredibly hosed performance-wise. IIRC one of the big things that's slamming CPUs is how it handles really basic AI behavior, with people getting massive performance hits the second they enter a city and that AI calculation comes online.
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kliras posted:devastating, vague rumours that nvidia might be working directly in league with the sff perverts: The perfect case would look something like this: :max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/peo-better-homes--gardens-freestanding-fan-forced-1500w-portable-fireplace-at-walmart-rmarek-01-0119-2-8cee0db59d8741feadeb15cf4f356d50.jpeg)
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As someone with a full sized 2070 squeezed into a mini-itx build, the idea of having to move up to a larger case is one of the biggest things keeping me from upgrading so I'm glad to hear that we might see smaller cards soon.slidebite posted:The perfect case would look something like this: The Fractal Design Terra is most of the way there. 13.5 inches long by 6 inches wide by 8.5 inches tall. 
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change my name posted:Lol jesus christ this sucks, I was planning on giving my friend my old 5600X and it's already struggling in new games Don't worry about the shittiest optimized game. 5600x is still decent.
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Taima posted:If you watch a lot of youtube, are the RTX video enhancement features (the super resolution and 'HDR") good enough to just turn on and forget? I switched it on and forgot about it until you mentioned it. Never noticed any issues. Dunno about any specific apps, but there is s long as gently caress faq that might cover it https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5448/~/rtx-video-faq
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Capcom has released multiple patches for DD2 including one recently that state they're trying to improve DLSS image quality - they seem to be struggling with it technically for some reason
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Rosalind posted:As someone with a full sized 2070 squeezed into a mini-itx build, the idea of having to move up to a larger case is one of the biggest things keeping me from upgrading so I'm glad to hear that we might see smaller cards soon. Would be better with animated flames though.
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