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More practical issue is 4090 variants tend to be much larger than 3090s so you're going to have trouble fitting them in a box I've seen multi-gpu compute prosumers give up on consumer geforces and transition to the 6000 "quaddro" equivalents because of physical box constraints
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:You literally can't use two 3090s for gaming, it doesn't work. Not true, Ampere mGPU works in RoTTR and, uhh, Strange Brigade?
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:DD2 doesn't used baked GI, though other RE engine games have. Alex speculated that it may have been used as a ground truth to compare against when developing their RTGI implementation. The candles looked fine, IMO, it was the bag-of-produce props that were totally ignored by PT that I’d want fixed. The mod page talks about using ReShade to do a gentle denoising pass. I’d definitely want the DLSSFG mod around too though, even at 1440.
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BurritoJustice posted:Not true, Ampere mGPU works in RoTTR and, uhh, Strange Brigade? and the thing most gamers with 2x3090 or 2x3090ti's are running: 3dmark
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Subjunctive posted:The candles looked fine, IMO, it was the bag-of-produce props that were totally ignored by PT that I’d want fixed. I meant this:  Many interior spaces are just pitch black.
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Ah yeah, though that would make spotting lootables even easier!
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Lord Stimperor posted:I mean it'll vary greatly with usage and what not. I think in the US energy is cheap enough that it isn't worth the bother. In EU energy prices can be multiples of the US prices. So, over the lifetime of your computer a more energy efficient GPU (as compared to a less efficient one) may pay itself back, while at the same time allowing you to keep a smaller PSU, less heat, less strain etc. pg&e's 52 cents/kWh would like to disagree with "cheap enough"
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Is there a timeline where running a 4090 on 75W board power is more cost effective than buying a less power efficient card.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I meant this: I wonder how far that is off, really? I think those candles would light up the room a bit more than that, but nowhere near as much as the traditional lighting shows. The bigger problem might be that interior spaces aren't designed for realistic lighting.
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slidebite posted:God dammit, my local best buy shows stock on 4090FE, now I have to decide if I want to drop the coin My rationalization that I’m wrestling with is “both my kids have 1080Tis, so I could upgrade one to my 2080Ti then have them fight to the death over the 4090 I get when I replace that with a 5090!!!1!” I’m helping them if you really think about it, I’m so selfless *cough*
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pyrotek posted:I wonder how far that is off, really? I think those candles would light up the room a bit more than that, but nowhere near as much as the traditional lighting shows. The bigger problem might be that interior spaces aren't designed for realistic lighting. It is probably quite close to accurate, candles are probably even dimmer than that in real life and the textures the light is bouncing off of are also pretty dark, so basically the whole scene is catastrophically under lit for how it is exposed in the second image. It might work slightly better in full end to end HDR with some automatic iris/exposure adjustments happening but basically you are correct that the space isn't designed for realistic lighting which is a super common issue with conventionally hand lit game scenes. The original developers would just throw in some candles and then adjust the lighting till the room is about correct for traditional rasterization, it worked fine for the time even if the result is some candles or windows that act thousands of times brighter than they would be in reality. So when you come back and inject realistic lighting while still compressing the result down to standard dynamic range, the whole scene either washes out from extreme brightness, or collapses into almost complete darkness like that.
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To be fair, the image on the left is using probe-based ray-traced GI, but that doesn't preclude them from using invisible fill lights that may not be working correctly in the path tracing mode. Or some kind of amped-up unrealistic light value for the candles. The latter could still be done with path tracing, if you have a sampling algorithm that can reliably sample those lights.
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pyrotek posted:I wonder how far that is off, really? I think those candles would light up the room a bit more than that, but nowhere near as much as the traditional lighting shows. The bigger problem might be that interior spaces aren't designed for realistic lighting. Typical candles put out about 10 lumens. Recommended lighting standards for a general use room are about 10-20 lumens per square foot. That picture has about 1% of the number you'd need for that space
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The main problem isn't the candles, it looks wrong because of the windows not lighting the space at all.
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spend more on candles
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Yeah, the windows are probably not throwing as much as they should, assuming full sunlight on the other side anyway. But it could also be evening or cloudy or something like that, the room most likely would be very dark if that scene was recreated in real life (although your eyes would normally adjust allowing you to see better than that). This is the cool thing about realistic ray traced lighting though, it just works and conforms to what would happen in reality, it isn't always broken around the edges in some strange video gamey way, but it also means you can't just bullshit a brightly lit space anymore. The light has to come from somewhere.
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repiv posted:spend more on candles we all know where that leads 
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:To be fair, the image on the left is using probe-based ray-traced GI, but that doesn't preclude them from using invisible fill lights that may not be working correctly in the path tracing mode. Or some kind of amped-up unrealistic light value for the candles. The latter could still be done with path tracing, if you have a sampling algorithm that can reliably sample those lights. with only 1 bounce and even 4spp, I wonder how many rays even touch a candle to get an over indexed light value anyway DD2 does have iris/exposure adjustment, but it doesn’t seem to have the effect I’d expect I think the most promising thing here, unless Capcom pulls ray reconstruction out of their butts, is a mod that switches to 2-bounce-and-4spp-with-DLAA PT when in photo mode or many even when taking a screenshot
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Taima posted:Anyways I was curious, Jedi Survivor came out on Game Pass, and I've been paying it for 30 minutes or so. Digital Foundry has a video from a few months ago that claims the port is absolute poo poo and totally unplayable. I trust them, but my experience has been... fine? Like sure, it's no Forbidden West pc port, but did they fix it recently or something? it's not a great port or anything and is still poorly optimised, has some stuttering problems and plenty of graphical glitches, etc. but it's hardly unplayable either. there's a whole lot of room for improvement on the technical side but none of the issues come close to ruining it in its current state
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Ordered a 1000w Asus tuf PSU as well as I currently have a 750w and I want to have headroom for new cpu and watercooling at some point as well.
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https://twitter.com/TechPowerUp/status/1784871691409068377
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Subjunctive posted:what the hell All those frames... lost... like tears in rain
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This happens all the time when there are defective high-end GPUs.
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Just team green being green. (and making more green) That 2060 is a recent one that's springs to mind, but yeah, there's been loads over the years
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They made a 1060 3GB variant from a 1080 die late in the Pascal cycle. From 2560 shaders to 1152, ha. e: linky https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gp104.g793 Cygni fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Apr 30, 2024 |
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There were 3080/3090 dies converted for use in the 3070 Ti too, though those dies were a bit closer together in size. (10752 shaders cut down to 6144)
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sounds like a big thing for remix: ray reconstruction support from dlss 3.5 https://twitter.com/GeForce_JacobF/status/1785296447975608465
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Subjunctive posted:Whoa, maybe there is hope for DD2 PT after all! DD2 PT doesn't use RTX Remix (DD2 shipped with the feature disabled and hidden, and RTX Remix doesn't work with new games anyway). So this probably isn't relevant, though modders could still find a way to hack DLSS RR into the game independently of this.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Still waiting for Half-Life 3 RTX
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Haven't heard a peep about it since last year, god, I hope they actually do finish it. In case anyone hasn't seen it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIE9gQt6WXQ
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:DD2 PT doesn't use RTX Remix (DD2 shipped with the feature disabled and hidden, and RTX Remix doesn't work with new games anyway). So this probably isn't relevant, though modders could still find a way to hack DLSS RR into the game independently of this. The latest DD2 PT mod update uses some wizardry to blend the ASVGF render into the PT for denoising, or something. The lantern light is still weird, though, and I get like 35fps in town with frame generation enabled. Future version of the mod that just switches in photo mode or even for screenshots would be nice; for now I’m back to just good old DLSS and 100% RT resolution. (The HDR also sucks.)
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Subjunctive posted:The latest DD2 PT mod update uses some wizardry to blend the ASVGF render into the PT for denoising, or something. Trying this now. It's neat, but the biggest problem is that this technique requires you to disable light bounces from the path tracer, which causes shadow detail to be crushed.   Adding a light bounces fixes this, but then the noise is back.
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