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Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

AlphaKretin posted:

Except the point of the post you quoted was that if you do fall for that very trap and miss out on Augments, the game tells you nothing, so you don't see that there is an incentive and do keep doing exactly the thing the system is supposed to make you not.

So?

What's wrong with it being a secret? A reward to a player who experimented?

You don't need to 100% the game to complete it.

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Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

So wait you argument is that they had to do it to get players to engage with it but it's fine that it doesn't tell you so you don't engage with it and that's fine because it's a reward for those that did.

There's two seperate points here:

1) The way they did the augments is good because otherwise there'd be no point in engaging with the system until you get the final party set up at the end of the game.

2) It doesn't matter if you miss some augments, games having secrets is fine and there's no reason you have to be able to 100% it.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

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Evil Fluffy posted:

They hit harder than red mages later on and Ninjas get access to FAST.

Really though there's no reason to use them unless you want to be able to run from battles more consistently. Knight hits harder, Redmage makes up for weaker melee with useful magic, and black belt is just king of dps mountain.

Ninja learns Haste and Temper which is all you really need for Black Magic.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

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Fister Roboto posted:

Lightning's, Sazh's, and Hope's all add a huge amount to the chain gauge on staggered enemies, with Sazh's being the best at +170%. Fang's and Snow's just do a fuckton of damage at the cost of ending the stagger, so they're not quite as good.

I mean eventually you're going to run out of stagger so they make a good finisher.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

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Barudak posted:

FF3DS is one of the worst designed games of all time and that is not hyperbole.

Hey now, FF3DS functions on a basic level.

But yeah, Hiromichi Tanaka has ideas about game design. Mostly bad ones.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

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alpha_destroy posted:

Ugh... bring back "Don't blame me. Blame yourself, or god." Much better than whatever faux-Shakespearean thing Delita says now.

Since WoTL isn't Shakesphearian that's impossible.

Also WoTL, being an actual good translation with good writing for said translation, should take nothing from the original. Which does not have either and any good qualities from the original Japanese only come out despite it.

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Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

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Barudak posted:

Unless its FFX where I dont think the party kills a single living thing.

They kill Seymour. It just takes a while to stick.

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