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Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Avatar: When we first see Sigourney Weaver she opens her pod and starts yelling about how none of her underlings have brought her a cigarette until a scientist brings over a cigarette and a lab coat. A few seconds earlier, as the pod is still opening, you can see said scientist run off screen to retrieve them.

Scrooged: When Frank Cross (Bill Murray) is having a nervous breakdown in front of his boss at lunch and throws a bucket of water on a waiter he thought was on fire ("I thought you were Richard Pryor") he then stumbles and slips on the water he just threw on the floor.

There's also a scene where Frank's brother is playing a trivia game with his friends and Frank knows all the answers. That's because (coincidentally?) the questions were about TV shows and it was established earlier that he'd spent the first 20 years of his life glued to the television.

Not really subtle but its only in the background for a few seconds. On the wall in Frank Cross's office:

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# ¿ Dec 10, 2013 10:15

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# ¿ May 5, 2024 10:05

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Just watched Back To The Future II for the billionth time and needed the trivia track on the bluray to point out that not only have they still not fixed the clockwork mechanism in the clock tower, they still haven't fixed the chunk of concrete that Doc Brown broke off in the first movie. Also, it isn't explained in the movie, but the reason Old Biff was in pain when he returned to 2015 is because he was fading from existence, having been shot by Lorraine sometime in the 90s (good for her).

I disagreed with the trivia thingy though when it supposed that the Letterman jacket in the closet of Future Marty's house belonged to Marty's daughter's boyfriend because when Present Jennifer first dives in there you can read that the name starts with "Jenn" so its probably hers from highschool.

# ¿ Feb 13, 2014 07:18

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Some stuff from Back To The Future III:

When Marty is in 1955 saying that "Clint Eastwood never wore anything like this" there are two movie posters in the background for movies in which Clint Eastwood had uncredited roles.
If you look closely in the background when Doc and Marty are at the train station using the map to plan their train heist you can see Clara Clayton waiting for someone to pick her up.
When Marty first walks into town, the stagecoach that almost runs him over belongs to Wells Fargo and would have made themselves a robbery target had they stopped.
Just like in 1985 and 1955, Doc lives in his lab that is in the closest thing 1885 has to a garage (a horse barn).
Doc's bandanna is made from his faded 2015 shirt.
In a callback to the first movie when Lorraine's brother says that Marty must be rich to have two television sets, the wealthy 1955 Doc Brown is shown to have two televisions.
1955 Doc once again tells Marty that no one should know too much about their own destiny...until he sees his tombstone and immediately goes to the library. I assume he started piecing together Marty's letter from the first movie as soon as he left.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2014 07:44

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Revenge Of The Nerds too. Legally Lewis raped Betty by pretending to be her boyfriend, but the rape was so good that she started dating him instead of having him arrested. Also he sold everyone in school naked pictures that he took of her with a hidden camera.

edit: I think there should be a comma in there, but I'm going to leave it because I like the thought of a character called "Legally Lewis".

# ¿ Feb 15, 2014 22:37

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Tron is arguably the most dated movie and the sequel was pretty good. Starsky & Hutch was a good example of why a reboot/sequel/prequel/comic book movie needs to have respect for the source material. I had zero attachment to the original, but spending an entire movie saying "look how stupid the original was" gets old pretty fast, new audiences don't care about the material you're lampooning, and fans of the original (arguably your core audience) will be put off by it. See also: Lone Ranger. 21 Jump Street is an outlier because its creators are the best at taking a horrible idea and making an awesome movie out of it.

# ¿ Jun 30, 2014 21:18

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Aleph Null posted:

Starsky & Hutch - Dance Off (HD): http://youtu.be/_CgC1G92vms

This is magical and is one of my favorite movie soundtracks to boot.

While I admit the movie had its moments (my favorite being when Starsky tries to save his sinking car), it was still a somewhat forgettable movie. The problem is that it wasn't really a Starsky & Hutch movie. For example, if you want to make a cop movie, that's one thing. If you decide to call your cop movie T. J. Hooker, now you have already alienated people that don't want to see a T. J. Hooker movie but there are hopefully enough people that enjoy T. J. Hooker that you can make up for it. If, however, your movie spends a bunch of time saying "remember how stupid T. J. Hooker was?" then you have now alienated the audience you were hoping to make up for the already alienated audience of people that didn't want to see your movie when they heard the name. Unfortunately its pretty hard to show that your movie is different enough from expectations that you can win them over. Plus, even if you manage to win them back, you still have a smaller target audience than had you called your movie something else and not offended the [whatever they call T. J. Hooker fans]. Other examples of movies that tried with varying success to show they weren't what people thought when people heard the name include The Muppets Movie, JJ Abrams' Star Trek, and Battleship (which wasn't very good but better than what most people were expecting from the title).

Also, the dance off from American Wedding was better.

# ¿ Jun 30, 2014 22:18

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Riptor posted:

There's a similar thing in back to the future 3; there were tons of similar complaints about sequels at the time, so the drive-in theater Marty uses as a staging spot for the jump back to 1885 is showing only sequels that came out in 1955

And if I remember correctly, during the "Clint who?" line there is a movie poster behind Doc for a movie Clint Eastwood had a bit part in.

Edit: I forgot I already brought this up many pages ago:

Cat Hatter posted:

When Marty is in 1955 saying that "Clint Eastwood never wore anything like this" there are two movie posters in the background for movies in which Clint Eastwood had uncredited roles.

Carry on then.

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# ¿ Jul 11, 2014 09:17

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jabby posted:

The ending still makes sense. In fact given the more limited scope of the movie it makes more sense than using the comic-book ending, which would have come completely out of left field and seemed a lot less believable.

This is the same reason I think National Treasure is a better Da Vinci Code adaptation than the Da Vinci Code movie. Some things don't play well in a two hour movie vs a more literary setting.

# ¿ Aug 18, 2014 22:56

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Didn't Kubrick usually just use source material as a jumping off point and then make his own barely-related movie?

# ¿ Aug 19, 2014 09:05

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Ratoslov posted:

Often, but a scene-by-scene adaption of a book to a movie isn't necessarily as faithful an adaption as one which plays with the material to make it fit the screen and end up with a work that has the same feeling and themes as the book.

Yeah, but try telling that to all the butthurt nerds after Kubrick's Watchmen is released. It would be worth it though just to watch Alan Moore's head explode.

# ¿ Aug 21, 2014 09:56

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

In Robocop when Murphy is talking to Lewis right after spinning his gun around TJ Lazer style, you see him put the magazine back in because he isn't a reckless douche practicing tricks with a loaded gun.

In 300: Rise of an Empire whenever the Athenians ram an enemy ship they kneel down and hold a rope to brace for impact. The Spartans, on the other hand, remain standing and take a step forward in unison to keep from falling over. I thought it was a nice way to show how the professional soldiers had the benefit of additional training.

# ¿ Sep 19, 2014 00:43

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Canemacar posted:

So whats the payoff? Are all cab drivers in London given fabulous wealth and beautiful women or something? I can't imagine someone going through all that to earn minimum wage.

London cabbies make the equivalent of $100,000 to $170,000 according to that article.

# ¿ Sep 19, 2014 00:52

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Medieval Medic posted:

The Athenians were better sailors than Spartans.

True, but the Spartans remain standing presumably so they can disembark faster and turn the battle into the equivalent of ground combat on a wiggly surface. Basically, I'm just glad that since they spent so much time littering references to the Athenians being farmers who have taken up arms and how they needed to convince Sparta's army of full-time professional soldiers to join the fight, that they actually portrayed them fighting differently instead of just "well, here are some extra bodies since we're almost fresh out" that I was expecting.

# ¿ Sep 19, 2014 21:30

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Just watched Hook for the first time in years.

When Peter is climbing the mast to try and get to his kids, one of the pirates telling him to fly suggests "Try looking at Tink".
During the Neverland baseball game, both teams are named the Pirates.
The scar Peter thinks is from having his appendix removed is on the wrong side, supporting it being from "the Tiger Lilly incident".

Something not subtle at all though, but I was too young/stupid to notice the last time I watched the movie, but when Smee first addresses the pirates, his delivery of "Good morning, Neverland" is exactly copied from Robbin Williams' Good Morning Vietnam.

There is also a running joke of people ignoring the danger to those around whom they are shooting. None are subtle on their own, but I'd never noticed that they keep doing it. Off the top of my head:

Hook shooting Peter's checkbook and killing a pirate behind it.
Smee pointing a gun at Tink who is right in front of Hook's face.
A pirate shooting the guy who was stealing second base and Smee checking to see if he'd been shot as he was standing right between them

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# ¿ Sep 23, 2014 03:42

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Alaemon posted:

It is to some people; I've also discussed the movie with a fair number of people who've never noticed it.

And I thought you were just being a smartass as people often do in this thread. I guess I'm not one to judge how subtle something is in that movie though since I saw it about a million times when it first came out.

# ¿ Oct 14, 2014 04:49

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Speaking of Peter Pan/Hook being internally inconsistent, is Peter's daughter correct that "Neverland makes you forget", or is that something that only affects Peter and his son?

(I always figured Peter didn't need fairy dust due to cumulative long-term exposure and Tink threw some on him in Hook because he wasn't flying so why not? Another explanation though would be that Tink spent all of her time with Peter so he probably just got small but constant exposure until he left Neverland.)

# ¿ Oct 15, 2014 00:29

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Rigged Death Trap posted:

"Im sorry Mr. Pan, But you have fairy prostate cancer."

Sounds like Tink finally got what she wanted :pervert:

# ¿ Oct 15, 2014 18:10

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Wiggles Von Huggins posted:

It's funny how if I heard someone start this sentence in real life, I would push them down and scream NERD. But because it was posted in this thread, I read it intently and nodded silently at my screen.

Kind of like how when I typed out "Neverland makes you forget" I felt dirty because that's probably what Michael Jackson used to say to the kids sleeping in his bed.

# ¿ Oct 15, 2014 22:03

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

muscles like this? posted:

There was one episode where he made a disparaging comment toward Gypsies. Something like "there's nothing blacker than Gypsy magic."

I might be wrong, but I don't think most Romani are Jewish.

Edit: Unless you just meant that as a general statement and not to answer the "when was Constantine an anti-semite" question.

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# ¿ Feb 16, 2015 15:04

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Baron von Eevl posted:

My wife literally said "I don't think he knows what a lisp is." Apparently Sam Jackson actually had a pretty severe lisp for a long time and worked hard to overcome it.

So like when people were complaining about Matt Damon's Boston accent in The Departed?

# ¿ Mar 16, 2015 07:23

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Something that's probably more obvious but that I missed anyway, Immortan Joe shows off his wealth by having two of everything (because most people hardly have one of anything). That's why his car is two Cadillacs welded together with two supercharged engines that are fed by twin turbochargers, his War Rig is two vehicles welded together with twin engines and twin exhausts on each side, Max's Ford Falcon was given a second supercharger when the War Boys took it etc.

# ¿ Jul 16, 2015 22:54

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

syscall girl posted:

That was grosser than GoT

If only because you feel bad for the chump she's cheating on and nobody really liked King Fatass Baratheon

But it was worth it for "He's a modern jazz dancer." "What? Thats possibly worse than the incest thing!"

# ¿ Dec 13, 2015 07:48

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

In the new Peanuts movie there's a (predictable if you're over 10) bit where Charlie Brown and Peppermint Patty mix up their tests but you can actually see them sign the wrong ones whereas most movies with that bit will do them off screen (or not have a big identifiable smiley face on one).

My favorite thing about that joke/plotline is that the answers to the test form a perfect smiley face and seemingly nobody noticed.

# ¿ Mar 22, 2016 00:10

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

Was watching Back To The Future II yet again and noticed when Marty follows Biff outside the dance you can see Biff's friend in the 3D glasses shake the last few drops out of a liquour bottle before handing it to Biff while stifling a laugh. Biff then whips the empty bottle across the stairway once he realizes its empty. Probably helps explain why Strickland smelled booze, since it was not only on Biff's breath but on the ground at his feet.

I could only find the scene in crappy quality in a comparison video at 1:50:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD63ChsBakw&t=110s

# ¿ Apr 17, 2016 05:39

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

thecluckmeme posted:

I think that was also something in TVIV for a while, people being berated for spoiling a show like Spartacus or something by discussing historical events

Yeah, but with Spartacus most people don't know anything about the other rebellion leaders or what they got up to. At least the show was loosely adapted enough that it didn't matter much.

# ¿ May 6, 2016 02:58

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Baron Corbyn posted:

From what I remember of Torchwood, most of the characters were bi and probably better people than Jack?

From what I remember of Torchwood, most of the characters were dickheads so its splitting hairs that Jack was worse. When he was on Dr Who though his character wasn't so much bi as that he was from humanity's "gently caress anything with a pulse" era.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2016 10:32

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Bogmonster posted:

As someone who has only ever seen Fury Road and Beyond Thunderdome, is Mad Max worth watching or should I just skip ahead to The Road Warrior?

It's okay. It's the only one where civilization is still collapsing as opposed to being rebuilt by survivors/warlords, but you'd basically be watching it for completion's sake.

# ¿ Jan 27, 2018 21:34

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Don Gato posted:

I just assumed the first Mad Max was an accurate look at Australian police in the late 70s/early 80s. This is because the first time I ever saw Mad Max 1+2, I had a fever of 103, was slowly dying in my bed from a combination of whatever my mom gave me and my fever, and then they both came on Turner Classic Movies as a double feature, complete with a boatload of trivia in between the two movies.

I do like how the world is steadily worse as the movies go on, as you go from "Australia but worse" in the first movie to Fury Road having a massive desert where the Pacific Ocean should be. Time goes on, the world keeps breaking and burning but Max is still alive, and that's all that matters to him.

Oh and his car but it got wrecked in Fury Road so even that was too much goodness for him to have.

I still pretend Australia is exactly like Mad Max(es) once you get away from the population centers.

# ¿ Jan 30, 2018 19:58

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jabby posted:

If they had RPGs or even heavy caliber guns the war rig wouldn't have lasted five minutes. It seems like their focus is purely on small arms.

If anything Joe's War Boys are the explosive specialists, although it seems limited to those grenade-on-a-stick things they have.

Well, for a lot of the movie they're trying to not damage Joe's wives and keeping fire/explosives to a minimum. I do agree that, similar to present day, small arms are a lot easier to get your hands on than a Ma Deuce or something.

# ¿ Feb 9, 2018 18:23

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oldpainless posted:

I read a comic where...captain America...is a nazi.
...

Lately Marvel comics has been throwing a bunch of stuff at the wall to see what sticks before they hand ideas over to their much more lucrative movie division and I'm really curious what they'd be workshopping with this.

# ¿ Jul 12, 2018 19:27

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Krispy Wafer posted:

...
I guess there's some stupid 80's or 90's cop movie where bullets just ricochet off glass that they can say was being parodied.

I pretty sure at the end of Robocop 2 there are ricochet sparks on the tires of the APC they're taking cover behind.

# ¿ Aug 5, 2018 20:45

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Arcsquad12 posted:

The thing about the Federation is that they are evil as gently caress but goddamn are they incompetent and arrogant.

The Buenos Aires meteor was a cassus belli they pulled out of their rear end to justify expansion into arachnid territory, but their military tactics are entirely the fault of poor leadership and even worse planning.

This is why they fired the Air Marshal after the first battle. They needed a scapegoat to take the blame.

I think there was also news footage before the meteor about some "Mormons" who got slaughtered because they carelessly settled too close to the arachnids against Federation advice, but the footage is of the same style military base from Planet P.

# ¿ Sep 9, 2018 20:18

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Aleph Null posted:

The dance number during the end sequence could be seen as hella homophobic.

Of course, the same could be said for portraying Hitler as a flaming gay dude in The Producers.

I'll give you that, but only because we Americans associate being gay and campy to the point that they're synonymous here, so the movies would have been written with that intent.

Funny thing is that the original Producers portrayed Hitler as a burnout instead of a big sissy, so it actually got more offensive over time.

# ¿ Oct 18, 2018 22:34

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phasmid posted:

Thank you. That sums it up. I guess a lot of people that think Monty Python just isn't funny also think that magic is real and that everything they say is sincere for some occult reason.

"Dur, this movie portrays a witch burning amidst the satire of Dark Age mythology and so that means witches are real". Wtf.

Also if you think Gilliam is some kind of horrible bigot? You might just be missing the message of every single movie he's ever made.

Orson Scott Card seems to have missed the point of Ender's Game.

# ¿ Feb 4, 2019 23:37

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Aphrodite posted:

Spaceballs is a bad movie.

Spaceballs is the only Mel Brooks movie my wife and I agree on as great. We're pretty split on the rest of his filmography.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2019 00:38

Cat Hatter: Oct 24, 2006; Hatters gonna hat.

There's a scene early in Last Action Hero where Slater shows that the soundtrack is being played on his MiniDisk player, which explains why it doesn't skip while he's jumping his car around.

# ¿ Feb 27, 2019 01:21

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CopywrightMMXI posted:

Why do people actually need instructions for that?

It's pretend interactivity. It's not my jam but I imagine it's like phone sex if the other side was pre-recorded. You can probably get what the filmmakers were saying about the protagonist's relationship with a woman that isn't real.

# ¿ Feb 27, 2019 19:53

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Jedit posted:

It absolutely isn't true. Burgess felt that the omission of the final chapter completely changed the theme of the story and his friendship with Kubrick ended over it.

I'd heard that the final chapter was omitted in American versions of the book and would have been included in the movie otherwise.

Why does literally every story about Kubrick have multiple versions?

# ¿ May 22, 2019 00:28

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ynohtna posted:

Man, what I would give to dimension-hop and watch each of the Nicholas Roeg, John Boorman, Tinto Brass, Ken Russell etc -directed Clockwork Oranges adaptations. One attempt was going to star Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones.

Like, Mick was going to play Alex and Kieth Richards, Charlie Watts, etc. were going to play his gang? I'd watch that.

# ¿ May 22, 2019 11:12

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# ¿ May 5, 2024 10:05

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areyoucontagious posted:

My fav Jw2 moment was where he gets up on stage and shoots a guy in the face and the entire crowd just starts cheering madly

I like to think it’s an indictment of the viewer but who knows, maybe they just like watching dudes get capped

It could also be like in Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey and the audience thought it was part of the show.

It's been a while since I watched it so I don't remember the scene though.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2019 03:22

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