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My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Len posted:

They can never cite a source on that though, unlike Terminator 2 where they can cite a source saying Arnold as a good guy was supposed to be a twist that was ruined by marketing
This pops up every now and then, but I only recently learned that David Foster Wallace, of all people, wrote a lengthy (duh) essay on Terminator 2 where he goes right into how everybody knew and treats it as completely matter-of-fact.

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The studio backing for "T2'''s wildly sophisticated and digital F/X therefore depends on Mr. Arnold Schwarzenegger agreeing to reprise his Terminator role. Now the ironies start to stack, though, because it turns out that Schwarzenegger -- or perhaps more accurately "Schwarzenegger, Inc.," or "Ahnodyne" -- has decided that playing any more malevolent cyborgs would compromise the Leading Man image his elite and bankable record of ROI entails. He will do the film only if "T2"'s script is somehow engineered to make the Terminator the Good Guy. Not only is this vain and stupid and shockingly ungrateful, it is also common popular knowledge, duly reported in both the trade and the popular entertainment media before "T2" even goes into production. There's consequently a weird postmodern tension to the way we watch the film; we're aware of what the bankable star's demands were, and we're also aware of how much the movie cost and how important bankable stars are to a big-budget movie; and so one of the few things that keeps us on the edge of our seats during the movie is our suspense about whether James Cameron can possibly weave a plausible, non-cheesy narrative that meets Schwarzenegger's career needs without betraying "T1"'s precedent.

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My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Where does Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome fall on the twist/surprise scale?

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Basebf555 posted:

there's zero reason to focus group Galactus
not that it'll stop anyone

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

The Sexual Shiite posted:

If they’re going college-age live action for her, it has to be Sophie Lillis.
I've image searched all these actresses and have determined the correct suggestion.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

The real stretch is gonna be when Ghostbusters III rolls around and somehow society at large will have relegated the Statue of Liberty descending from its pedestal, walking the streets of Manhattan and smashing in the roof of the art museum to the realm of myth and urban legend.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Gonna laugh pretty hard when the full scene is Paul Rudd incredulously asking the kids if they've never heard of Ray Stantz and they're all "what the gently caress like banned-from-twitter-Ray-Stantz, the one who runs GhostWars?"

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

The thing about World's End is that while it's got a lot of funny moments it's not actually a comedy in the sense that Shaun and Hot Fuzz were "zombie movie but comedy" and "police movie but comedy", and becomes less and less so the older it gets (and also the older you get watching it). And in particular Gary's speech at the end about how humans will always want to be stupid and irresponsible and have fun that directly drops humanity into a postapocalyptic dark age has taken on a decidedly sobering tone here in May 2020.

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I'm finally watching Too Old To Die Young and it extremely fits my sense of humour that in episode 5 Nicolas Winding Refn deliberately sabotages the kind of car chase scene the audience expect from Nicolas Winding Refn by having two characters silently fight over the radio, switching between a moody retro 80s tune and Barry Manilow's Mandy, and then making the chase scene extra moody and avant garde after they've settled on Mandy.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

food court bailiff posted:

Master of Disguise is fine, it is literally a children's movie, for children. The main character is named "Pistachio" because that's funny for children to say.
I can't believe they gave him the surname Disguisey

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

You're not sleeping with it, are you, Ray?

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Yeah. It's the story of the greedy unethical corporation treating its working class employees as disposable assets and sending them into horificcanlly dangerous situations on purpose, not the merely unethical corporation carefully picking personnel trained for the job at hand. If anything, the plan being less likely to work underlines how all-important the bottom line is to the plan.

"Get a xenomorph", "do it cheaply", "do it safely"; you can pick two.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

God Hole posted:

in the wild west days of wikipedia, i remember perusing the article on john mcclane for some reason and there was a section that was basically like "INJURIES SUSTAINED" that listed all his various injuries throughout the series. at the end there was subsection that read "THEORIES" which consisted of theories as to how john mcclane was able to sustain such mortal injuries and keep going (apparently working-class tenacity isn't a sufficient explanation).
This kind of stuff is basically the entirety of movie reception on the internet in 2020. Nerds love putting observable facts together in one unifying theory and, apparently, hate engaging with a narrative's themes and suspending their disbelief. Guarantee you there's a straight-faced theory floating around that McClane is actually the guy from Unbreakable because Bruce Willis.

Same with John Wick, these movies are focus grouped towards people who go on fandom and work out the worldbuilding.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Mescal posted:

There should be 1000% more movies about figure skating.
Slapshot sequel

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Jestery posted:

"Where's the flimerty flap?"
"Huh"
"DW got it"

Ah, the wangjangler

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Torquemada posted:

Reminding me that I watched Ghostbusters (1984) the other day and the EPA is the secondary villain interfering with the chutzpah and go-get-‘em attitude of a bunch of plucky small businessmen who need to store unregulated waste and nuclear technology in the centre of Manhattan.
It's that and other aspects of Ghostbusters that make me think there really would be something in a reboot or sequel or reimagining or whatever, just not at all like the ones we've been getting so far.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Don't miss out on Last Night In Soho y'all. Wright is only getting better.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

That's still like naming the worst Beatle though.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

It's presenting as a Pegg/Frost/Wright comedy but it's really a quite sad movie about how people's flaws impact their own and others' lives. A while ago Pegg admitted to having/realizing he had a huge alcohol problem around the time they made it and you can assume it's basically autobiographical in a lot of places.

e: basically it's "what if Shaun doesn't sort his loving life out" in a different genre.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

God I've seen The Big Lebowski at least 20 times including originally in theaters and today was the first time I noticed that in the diner scene with Walter, when the Dude pays and leaves, he accidentally drops a joint on the counter along with the cash and quickly retrieves it. This drat movie :allears:

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Once Chris Nolan got big budgets it all started going downhill.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Heh, could well be that the T-800 has been around humans long enough it's starting to smell human. At that point in the movie especially iirc it's starting to act more human, having casual conversations with Sarah and John, actually smiles when picking up the minigun and asks John his opinion of it.
There's a deleted scene before that, which has been restored in probably most cuts you can get these days, where John and Sarah enable the T-800s behaviour learning routines, which is probably the more canonical reason for his literal attitude switch but on a thematic level, yeah.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

flavor.flv posted:

I wonder how long it will be until Disney starts using ai to put Stan Lee cameos in the mcu again

You know there's somebody in the board room who's been pushing for it the whole time
I'm genuinely surprised they haven't been.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Maybe Cameron did mean for it to be a surprise but just wasn't very good at conveying it.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

There'd probably be very good money in an Equilibrium remake with Keanu Reeves these days

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Carthag Tuek posted:

yeah i know, but like he's not even pretending with that excellent smile
sure but what are people gonna do, get mad at him?

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Amphigory posted:

Does he load them all with real bullets before he heads home for the day?
Hey, whatever shaves a few minutes off your morning prep.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

also Samuel L. Jackson is in it

"why don't you make yourselves at home" is one of Cinema's greatest lines

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Hi! I used to work at Mindgeek, the parent company to the Pornhub network.

While I bemoan the lack of creative titles, they're made like this now purely for SEO reasons. There isn't really anyone browsing the shelves for videos anymore.

Edit: For example, Ghostbusters: A XXX Parody gets more hits than the very real and existing "Nutbusters", even though everyone knows the latter is the much better title.
I was immensely disappointed to find that the Big Lebowski porn is also just called The Big Lebowski: A XXX Parody and not, well, The Big Lebowski

which, by the way, I've never seen another movie where every scene could be the setup to a porn scene. "This is what you get when you gently caress a stranger in the rear end." "Eighteen-year-olds, Dude." And so on.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Phantom of the Opera would especially work cause it'd just be an episode of the Muppet Show.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

The plot catalyst is Waldorf & Statler occupying the phantom's reserved box

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I would also settle for Fury Road

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Fury Road's only flaw is that they cut a scene that shows how the Organic Mechanic and Miss Giddy exit the story.

Gotta admit regarding the tubing I always thought Max had just picked up and kept the tubing the War Boys put on him, because you don't leave useful stuff behind.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Y'all should watch The Limits of Control for the mother of all "happens offscreen" scenes. Maybe Down by Law too.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Limits of Control is an incredibly funny movie. It has one punchline, but it spends the whole movie building towards it.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Amphigory posted:

More Jarmusch posting please
I like the opening of Ghost Dog where he walks along the street right between people but everyone moves and turns in just the right way that no one will have actually seen him move by.

Rashomon comes up a lot during Ghost Dog. As the movie goes on we see that Ghost Dog and Louie both remember their first meeting differently: Ghost Dog remembers that Louie selflessly saved him from a beating, while Louie remembers that he defended himself against one of Ghost Dog's assailants.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Absolutely. And people caught on to it, too. Note the date.

https://twitter.com/MeltdownComics/status/640962087326347264

There were also MAGA people (to use the term loosely) who posted images of Joe's convoy on social media with captions like "this is us coming for the polls" at which people with media literacy were like "uuuuhm guys?"

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I feel like I've read about the skin thing as a canon part of extended Terminator fiction.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

They are on the go, they're dynamic! Deals to be done, family to be fed, bad guys to be killed. They got no time for leisure or enjoying things, coffee is fuel and the car is a second home anyway which with the two hour commute it had better be.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Baba Yaga Fanboy posted:

The darkness in the doorway that Michael Myers emerges from in the first Halloween is a perfect inky void modern filmmakers seem unable or unwilling to replicate
It's weird that one of the selling points of OLED is "oh it's got individual LEDs that can turn off entirely so black areas will really be black" and meanwhile the way movies actually look has flipped entirely the other way.

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My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Then again there are people like Nicolas Winding Refn these days who lights scenes as if he's got a deep seated personal vendetta with the idea of realism.

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