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BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Not so much 'subtle', but hilarious. In Urban Legend there is a scene where a girl who acts as an agony aunt on the radio is being stalked through the station. Before the killer shows up she is talking to 2 students with the following problem:

"Hello, we need help. We were trying something new from the Karma Sutra and he got stuck..."
"I DIDN'T GET STUCK, YOU GOT STUCK!"
"SHUT UP, YOU'RE EMBARASSING ME!" and so on and so forth. Best call in ever.

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BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Of course Josh Lyman being eaten by a mermaid, and the look on his face as he realizes the irony was amazing. Also, the Sugarplum Fairy was a genuinely creepy character.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I quite liked him climbing through Judi Dench's carriage only to leave her to wonder "Was that it?". Just love her disappointment that he didn't even 'try it on'.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I think my favourite thing from Who Framed Roger Rabbit was the routine at the end of the movie, during the climax, where Eddie revives his old Ringaling Brothers routine to make the Weasels laugh themselves to death. At one point there was a thing that I only heard as Jessica piling on the stress, where she yells "We're running out of time!". However, follow the rhythm of the moment:

To the tune of Merry-go-round Broke Down:

quote:

Eddie:
This singing ain't my line,
It's tough to make a rhyme!
If.. if I get stuck.. er... i'm out of luck.. uh

Jessica:
WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!

Eddie:
Thanks!

She is finishing his verse, not just panicking.

I also like that you only see Jessica's other eye when she really freaks out: "Oh my god, it's DIP!"

Finally, I like that the toons and the humans are both Jealous of Roger+Jessica but for different reasons. The Human's are thinking "How'd that doofy rabbit end up with a girl like her?"
The Toons are thinking: Yeesh, Her? How'd she land a great toon like Roger?" Summarised wonderfully by the exchange near the start of the movie: Eddie: What do you see in him anyway?
J: "He makes me laugh"

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
The credits of Kung-fu Panda have a bunch of great aftermath drawings, including one of Tigress and Shifu finally trying some of Po's secret ingredient soup. This is that image:



Shifu and Tigress finally learning that it's OK to laugh at themselves :3:

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Not really a moment but a realisation: In Stranger than Fiction we may be watching The rewritten version of Death and Taxes

Here's why I think this:

Karen Eiffel only writes Tragedies, it is her signature. The main character of Karen's book is initially Harold Crick... or is it? A good chunk of her early narration is actually more about the watch he wears, it drives the narrative more than he does. He discovers he isn't in control of his fate early on, but his fate is influenced by another force: "[Harold ignoring the watch trying to signal his attention to the baker] drove his wristwatch crazy", "His wristwatch wasn't about to let him miss another opportunity" - His watch is actually the main character and at the end of the movie it dies when Harold is hit by the bus because it takes the brunt of the blow, embedding a shard of itself so deep into Harold's wrist it saved his life from an otherwise fatal hemorrhage. True to her form, her main character dies.

By the time Harold Crick inevitably caught up with her she had already had the rest of the plot written down, which makes no sense if we were watching the story unfold live, the story of Harold Meeting Karen, because she would have noticed that she had written a meeting between herself and her Character. Therefore she would have noticed that the next few paragraphs after "The phone rang a third time" would have involved at least a reclusive author living in New York in an apartment identical to her own, because she would have had to describe it eventually when writing from Harold POV - the only reason she didn't notice his getting closer before was because she was writing the other two plotlines, the Bus driver and the Child with the Bike - She couldn't 'see' what Harold was doing. These plotholes may have been allowances that Karen made to make the story fit with the ending, she was ambivalent about the books quality by this rewrite, she just didn't want to kill Harold. So she allowed a little sloppiness to make everything else fall in line: "You know what, I think I'm fine with 'OK'...", "I know [that the new ending doesn't follow] I'll rewrite the rest"

That's what I took from it anyway,

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BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
It works for Harold because of the Baker's politics - he isn't just making a romantic gesture, he is showing her that he can think outside the box and operate on her wavelength - he can be weird and unorthodox, his job just forbids it. It's his first time really reaching out, and he has made horrible first and lame second impressions. He trying to show her (and prove to himself as well) in one gesture, that he can be more than he has been in every respect. Including honesty - Instead of the cliched "I love you" he is honest, and sticks with the literal truth - He "wants" her.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I think my favourite part of his performance is when Dr Hilbert tells him that his death has to happen the way it has been written.

Hilbert: "Harold. Harold listen to me. You will die, eventually. That is certain. You could have a heart attack at the bank... choke on a mint... but I promise you it will not be nearly as meaningful or beautiful as the death that she has written for you."
Harold: "*with his voice cracking in despair* It's just really bad timing..."

I also like his earlier conversation about the meaning of life:

Hilbert: "You could do whatever you want! Have an adventure, go on a trip, finish reading Crime and Punishment. Hell you could even eat nothing but pancakes if you wanted!"
Harold: "I don't want to eat pancakes, I want to live. Who, in a choice between life and pancakes, would choose pancakes?!"
Hilbert: "Harold, I think that if you really thought about it you would realise that the answer to that question is inexorably linked to both the type of life being led and, of course, the quality of the pancakes."
Harold: "Well yeah but remember that this isn't a theory, or a philosophy to me this is MY LIFE!"
Hilbert: "Exactly! So just go make it the one you've always wanted :)!"

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BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I also like the Hilbert intro when Harold mentions the key phrase:

Hilbert: "LIttle did he know? I once gave a seminar on Little did he know. I taught an entire class, on Little did he know. God dammit Harold, LIttle did he know means there's something you don't know. We should set an appointment... next week, no, imminent, you could be dead by then. Come back tomorrow, at 3:00"
Harold: "Ten seconds ago you said you wouldn't help me."
Hilbert: "It's been a very revealing ten seconds Harold."

Ana's pretty amazing too. Love the bus conversation (Replaced text with link as it is a long, funny scene):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-HArlgWlQ4

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BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Despite being elected for the dumbest possible reasons, President Komacho in Idiocracy is actually the best candidate they have for the society they are living in. He is the only one that notices that things have gone wrong at all, and even though he doesn't know how to fix it himself (Brawndo's probably run things for longer than he's been alive) he knows that Not Sure is smart enough to figure it out and gives him a think tank and unlimited resources to fix it. This actually makes him (After Not Sure and Rita) the third smartest man in the US, and the absolute smartest before they arrive.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I think my favourite line in that movie is "THIS GUY JUST GOT HIS rear end A PARDON! :byodood:"

I like the backgrounds in Idiocracy as well. Like when Not Sure first looks out the window:



Love the two buildings held up by lashing them together. There's a lot of imagination there.

Also love the subtle background gag (at least I missed it initially) surrounding the airplane. At the beginning of the movie the cops are chasing Not Sure and his new friend and they abandon the car, which then gets shot up until it explodes. One of the pieces of shrapnel gets launched so high it hits a passing plane which falls from the sky. Later at Walmart, look at what's laying in the isles in the background:

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
On rewatching Stranger Than Fiction I noticed some new stuff that I hadn't hit on before: Penny and Karen directly mirror Harold and Ana. Karen and Harold are both people at a self-destructively reclusive point in their lives, Harold a number-obsessed robot, spinning his wheels unable to figure out what he really wants, and Karen an author and hermit who has barely left her apartment in 10 years preferring to wallow in her own mind. Harold needs looseness in his life and Karen needs grounding, which are provided by Ana and Penny respectively. Also Harold and Penny are both relatively humourless no-nonsense aides, assigned to unorthodox individuals who don't want them or feel the need for them at all.

Also Karen's apartment is shot only in very wide, oblique angles with either severe top-down shots that dwarf the characters or closeups that make the apartment itself (helped by it's sparse furniture) look enormous. This serves to create a strong visual metaphor - when Harold first goes to meet her, he sees a black door give way to an initially infinite-seeming white space while he goes to meet his literal maker. All this brings to mind classical interpretations of Heaven, with Karen filling the Role of God and Penny the role of St Peter, the gatekeeper.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
It's not so much 'subtle' but appreciated - Cinderella 3 is a lot better than it should be, partially because it has the animation budget to do its premise justice. There are some cheats like at the beginning of the first song Cinderlla is facing a portrait wall so they don't have to animate her singing, but other scenes afterwards show a lot of love. For instance the fencing scene where the King and the Prince discuss the idea that the Prince is working off a flawed premise ("Breeding, refinement, these are reasons to marry, not their choice in transparent footwear!" and "So you think there's only one woman in the entire kingdom who wears a size 4 1/2?!" stand out as my favourite lines in that scene). There is no reason for them to fence, it would have saved money in the budget for them just to be having dinner or something but the scene is so much more lively and fun with the effort that they put in. The movie is a slapstick comedy through and through with Anastasia and Drizella both getting great gags based entirely on animation that other DVD movies (Looking at you Aladdin 2) wouldn't have had the budget to waste on.

There's also a few great bits of animation during the two times that Cinderella Get's exiled, first on the boat, then the pumpkin carriage. On the boat there are little bits on animation that are completely unnecessary but convey a lot of the mood. The first of these comes with the prince riding his horse under a closing portcullis, he tries to calm the horse with "it's ok, just don;'t look up" but after the horse (narrowly) makes it he gives a look towards the prince that just screams "If you ever pull that poo poo again I swear..." and when they arrive at the boat this happens (He calls her Cinderelly because he only knows her through the mice right now :3:):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZAICdtyerM. I just love the look at 1.04 of "I can't believe I just did that... and survived..."

The Pumpkin Carriage scene is also fantastic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5HTcEwTXGU

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I kinda like the part of the intro with the two families. Partially for the embittered 'smart' couple becoming barren (Well, it isn't my sperm count...) and the gag with every rock of the trailer adding a new person to their family tree. *ding**ding**ding**ding**ding*

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I was rewatching the Road to El Dorado and noticed a few neat things. The Stone at the beginning that depicts the gods arrival with the Miguel and Tulio-lookalikes riding the serpent, also has a handmaiden presenting the gods with a tribute, kneeling before their steed. When they first meet the native girl who 'wants in' on their con, she bumps into their horse and falls into the same posture as the handmaiden. Also throughout the movie, as Miguel gets closer to the villagers, he starts playing the part a little too much, feeding his desire to stay. In the pivitol scene with the High Priest, he feels so protective of the people he goes into full god mode on the high priest. The con has become real in his mind, while he may not be god he still feels responsible for these people who just 3 days prior he was bilking out of a lot of money. He has vowed to himself to help the people in any way he can, without expecting to leave with riches. From the amazing exchange "But, I am only speaking for the Gods!" "The Gods speak for themselves now!" Miguel is the closest thing to a god the people will get.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Spoiler tag that jackass!

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

Ryoshi posted:

and the nerd's dad has EMC2.

Oh yes, the famous equation E=MC2 :v:

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
A movie that gets ignored often that I found quite charming is Mr Magorium's Wonder Emporium starring Dustin Hoffman. I thought it captured a very Seussian tone without actually, being penned by Seuss and I like how the ending plays out, it always makes me feel somewhat happy. Also some of the dialog was quite funny, like when Mahoney is taking Mr Magorium to the hospital after finding out that he is dying:

He's very sick, he thinks he's 273 years old!
274, you were at my last birthday :mad:


I also like a lot of the little things surrounding the event, like how Magorium knows that it's coming. He found a pair of shoes he fell in love with so completely he ordered enough to last an entire lifetime. He on to his last pair, and as the movie progresses you see them getting more and more worn out.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Not so much subtle as ignored because the movies are forgotten - there are jokes in a few older movies that still are funny even though the rest of the films are a little bland.

Matinee, a movie about John Goodman playing a movie producer who specialises in schlock gimmick horror movies like "The Tingler" bringing his new movie Mant to a small town american town and his obstacles, has a pretty funny sequence where the lead Actress in Mant is making everyone sign waivers while pretending to be a nurse, which is cute enough. But then a small child comes up to her thinking she's actually a nurse with a gash on his arm looking for help. Her reaction?:

":geno:Oh honey that looks terrible...:byodame:NEXT"

Also a great sequence is found in the titular marriage and honeymoon in So I Married an Axe Murderer, starring Mike Myers, which also has an amazing twist that I won't spoil here.
The main crux of the plot is the Mike Myers is a paranoid poet who sabotages every relationship he ever had because of wild accusations - his last girlfriend, he says, "Stole his cat" for example. Then he meets the title character, played brilliantly by Nancy Travis who is obviously having a lot of fun (I also enjoyed her turn in Steven King's Rose Red) He eventually lets up abut his fears of her being a black widow because apparently the woman he fears her to be can sing in 10 different languages and she never shows any proficiency. Then, at the Wedding, she takes the stage, and proceeds to sing Only You in french while beckoning seductively at her new husband. Then, when they arrive at the honeymoon destination they are bundled into the "Honeymoon chair" together and chaotically shown via crowd surf to their hotel room, with Myers panicking through out because that was the last piece of evidence to link her to the killer.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Rewatching the original Kung Fu Panda with the sequels in mind is fairly interesting due to Oogway's behaviour, because he is a very similar person to Po, and being a Tortoise, probably had a similar arc - who would take a tortoise seriously as a warrior? His mannerisms are also very similar to Po, he is relaxed, informal, and is on Po's wavelength through out the movies. Hell, he even talks on Po's level at times, eg:

Po: "I probably sucked today harder than anyone in the history of Kung Fu. In the history of China... in the history of sucking!"
Oogway ":shrug:Probably"

Also love that a: In the credits sequence you get some foreshadowing of KFP3 with Po showing the villagers the dragon scroll and showing them some basic moves even before learning how to teach properly. The fact that each character interacts with the toy in a manner appropriate to how the characters interacted with Po is a cute touch. Also in the after credits sequence, the Peach Tree that Shifu and Oogway plant in his final moments has begun to sprout, symbolising the beginning of Po's journey.:3:

Also the move his does in the intro of KPF1 where he launches into the air anmd kicks a load of dudes is a stunt he actually does in the second movie with Tigress launching him into the air in the first battle.

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BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
People always deride the Producers remake as being absolute poo poo and I disagree. While the format is somewhat off and not all the songs are winners I thought enough of it was funny enough that I enjoyed it despite the flaws. Personal favourite scenes are Unhappy and Betrayed! due to the interplay with Brodericks hopeful verses interspersed with the other accountants chant of "Unhappy.. Unhappy... very very very.. unhappy" that gives it a unique edge in the first song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU5S41DLYT4

Also I like the lyrics in the second
"Just like Julius Caesar, was betrayed by Brutus... Who'd think an accountant would turn out to be my Judas!?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yYX3Ra9vbI
I also like the gag in this one with "That isn't my life... somebody else's life is flashing before my eyes..."

I know that these strengths were in the stage play first but they work in the movie as well IMO.

Also Along Came Bialy! is just a funny scene.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
It's weird that of all the old weird games I play Vexx was the one that got me made fun of...

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
One thing I always like in shows and movies is when they play by the "Actions speak louder than words" rule, by having a character imply something but plainly showing the statement/implication to be false. An example is in the famous intro to Fresh Prince of Bel Aire - Will states that he "Got in one little fight..." implying that it was a two way struggle, but the choreography exposes the lie here - he doesn't "Get in a fight" he is huddled in the foetal position the entire time - he didn't get in a fight, he got badly beaten up - who known just how bad he must have looked for his mother to think sending him to his uncles house was not an unreasonable course of action - Will is plainly not part of a wealthy family, and looking at a map, he lives as far from West LA as possible without also going north. - an East Philadelphia-to-Bel Air route literally bisects a map of the us - that Taxi fare cannot have been cheap. I think we can assume as hospital visit may have been involved for her to think spending that kind of money getting him as far away from her a possible was a worthwhile investment.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Accidental doublepost

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

Len posted:

He drank orange juice out of a champagne glass

Forgot about the flight, but the point still stands - that couldn't have been cheap. There must have been a drat good reason she spent all that money.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Not really a movie, but I was rewatching hte song Me Myself and I from Phineas and Ferb and I just noticed the first two abstract backgrounds are animated - the first suggests cells dividing and the second is scattered medicine caplets having their shells separated. Just never noticed it before.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
A small thing that I keep being reminded of is that despite the humour being weaker I enjoy the imagery of Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2 as a contrast to the first one, which the final stages of the FLDSMDFR illustrate nicely. In the first movie (I'll spoil this out of fairness like I normally do even if some people find it silly to do so) the machine is constantly being fed a stream of requests largely revolving around junk food. At as result when it mutates it has only got the raw materials for said junk, highly processed meats and cheeses that coalesce into the Meateor as it becomes known. It is big, brown and garish, the only colours being muted meaty or hideous candy colours, all bright yellows and greens interspersed with dull browns and drab reds, with the FLDSMDFR hanging from what can only be described as a giant marshmallow tentacle. Visually it is like the inside of a giant beast, all sticky and sharp with no safe places to stand. However this foreshadows it's later behaviour - it is an organism at this point, no longer machine but having constructed a protein layer with protective "drones" protecting it, it has become alive in the truest sense.

Then, as the second movie begins and we first arrive back on the island when the mission starts to retrieve it, the first colours we see are pale pastel trees, light blues and pinks, and why wouldn't the trees be odd colours - look at the soil that they had to work with! All those additives in the rotting husk that was once the meteor have been absorbed by vegetation and the first Foodimals we see are brightly coloured vegetables and pale forms of meat like shrimp - no longer are we invaders in a host body being fought off, we are now visitors to a functioning ecosystem - the FLDSMDFR has evolved - it is now behaving like a mammal and almost human in how it is seen - it is lying in a pool of water, similar to a birthing pool, in a carefully constucted protective "womb", and it is able to choose it's own way - no longer is it overloading with bad requests from toxic people who aren't thinking - now it gets to decide what it makes and when. And as a bonus, the vines that it uses to give "birth" to the foodimals are layed out in the same patterns as Flint uses on all of his machines. The FLDSMDFR is no longer a machine in any real sense, it is basically looking up to Flint Lockwood like he does to his mother, trying to emulate him as best it can even down to the decorations it grows.


It's a complete visual 180 that works really well.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Not6 really a movie but I always like when I finally get context for something that I've only previously heard of through cultural osmosis - like there was this one Opera song I kept hearing where they only ever played the chorus - a woman (sounding like she was, may have just been a long note) laughing with this rhythm:

"oooooooooooh" then repeated an octave lower - then I went by chance to see Mozart's The Magic Flute - and heard it in context - the Queen of the Night's Aria, who is also the best character with the comic relief characters playing a close second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpVV9jShEzU

Hilariously before that I went to see my first ever opera a few months prior - Fidelio, the only opera penned by Beethoven. My thoughts were "It was.. ok but I can see why he only wrote the one, they clearly weren't his strongest hand..."

Although this kind of counts because I think I saw Fidelio in a cinema - it was being streamed live from the venues that it was being performed at, although I saw Magic Flute in the actual theatre that the actors were performing in, which was cool.

Edit: For similar reasons I went to see the Marriage of Figaro - not being aware that it was the third in a trilogy and the song that I was expecting was actually in the previous installment - the Barber of Seville. I didn't even know that Figaro was the main character in Seville till I looked it up and found he was kind of an anthology character, being put in positions in which he can embarrass nobles by turning their own plots against them.

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BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I'm probably severely overanalysing here but I saw a neat parallel in the Lego Movie's opening to the movie Network - I don't know if it's an intentional homage or not, but the set up is very similar - a character is engaging with some form of media, and has a similar reaction -

Emmett the instruction book, telling him to greet the day, open the window and "say hello to the city" does so and is greeted by a chorus of voices all doing the same thing - they are all following the same programming instilled in them by Lord Businesses society and rules.

In Network the main character is watching the news on TV, and an anchor has a mental breakdown urging everyone to rail against the poo poo sandwich society has become with the now memetic phrase "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!" - he opens his window to find the entire few blocks at least and maybe the whole city doing exactly that.

Both are presenting how complete the control by the media over everyone's lives is, but ones disguising it under layers of saccharine happiness while the other goes in the opposite direction. Either deliberate parallel or happy coincidence, but I thought it was neat.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I don't know if I was just hearing things, but when watching Dredd, the music in the scene where Maw maw falls to her death sounded familiar - When rewatching the scene, this is how I heard it: Dredd: "How do you plead?" *Releases Mawmaw to her fall* Music" Guiiiiiiiiiiiiiiillllllllllllll*lands*tyyyyyyyyyy" Was I just hearing things, or was Mawmaws final line actually just defiantly crying guilty as she falls to her death under the effects of Slomo? It certainly sounds like if you sped it up it would sound close...

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
So my brain did notice something, I just interpreted it wrong. Cool.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

Mierenneuker posted:

You're a Belieber now.

noooooooooooo

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

Mierenneuker posted:

Playing music in reverse: it's not just for satanic messages!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww7SP1Gw_Yg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5a55uK8f4k

Sadly I couldn't remember an example involving a movie.

I can! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJxSP3LC9BA

:v:

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Just rewatched Mousehunt for the first time in a while, and I'd forgotten how little time is wasted in that movie. There is a scene in the beginning where Nathan Lane and Lee Evans find out that the house that they've inherited was built by an architect called Charles Lyle Larou, and instead of just having exposition when explaining that he was a big deal before he was committed (which makes the house very desirable with a huge potential for a large turnover if auctioned), they just have different characters reacting to the name in escalating tones:

Main characters: Charles Lyle Larou? :confused:

Librarian: *Looking up the name and pointing out the correct section* Charles Lyle Larou :)

Architectural Scholar: *Looking at the blueprints in the parlour of the house, stunned* Charles Lyle Larou! Charles Lyle Larou! I'm standing, in a house, built by Charles Lyle Larou~ :swoon:


Also some clever callbacks, like with (being played by Christopher Walken) Caesar the exterminator's fate: When they are first being left the house in the will, the executor states that the previous owner was found locked in the trunk in the attic. This is exactly what the mouse will later do to Caesar, he is also found in the same trunk, gibbering insanely after the mouse does... untoward things to him that only are mentioned in a recording on Caesars cassette player ("What are you doing... put that down... right now... that tickles..." is a direct quote).

I also like the visual gags with the deranged Catzilla, aka Fluffy, as he fails to capture the mouse also. This amazing scene is a direct allusion to Tom and Jerry, the entire movie is essentially that, but this scene is wonderfully direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOvJ4UFPjzA

I also love the effect of them blowing up the floor by accidentally shooting a bug bomb powerful enough that it also works on mice that was lost by Caesar. It doesn't just explode, there is a corona of flame that forms the shape of the crater before it all just falls straight down. The effect has a hell of a punch - Here is the clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I5_zsRI4Zo

I love this dumb movie so much. :allears:

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
An older movie - Galaxy Quest actually raises an interesting question in the final act, when Tim Allen is ordered by the villain to explain lying to his injured alien buddy as he wants to watch them both squirm as he is an rear end in a top hat - the question being, how to explain fiction to a species with no concept of untruth. It results in interesting thought experiment for me - how would I begin? In my case after defining basic lying I would give a list of situations that it's normally applied in, both benign, ie to protect someone from someone who would do them harm, and more selfish, like to get oneself out of trouble. Then I would expand on that will different types of lie, Hyperbole, Embellishment, Omission etc.

Then transition into the idea that sometimes people lie to entertain others, and that often those others seek out said lies to liven up their day when things get dull or stressful. Then go from there...

Either way it's a kinda dumb movie that actually raises an interesting point. It actually does "Make Me Think" to put it in a somewhat pretentious way.

Alternatively just show them this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xedx1AeYRc :v:

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BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

Rolo posted:

Holy poo poo who gives a poo poo.

Cool people with interesting lives. That's who.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Not so much subtle but appreciated - I like how in Spy, Agent Cooper is actually a competent secret agent, and not just because of her fighty nature. She gets her cover blown early in the movie to her target, and on the plane with her while at gunpoint she immediately reinvents her cover to fit the situation, only using context clues in photos and awards on the plane to make it seem like she knows her target's father better than she does, and after that she basically becomes a whole other person, going from the naive but competent Agent Cooper to a foul mouthed bodyguard that basically bullies her target into keeping around, even bullying her real entourage into giving her his coat. That's impressive, and hilarious.

Generally her characters in movies like Bridesmaids ("fight for your lovely life, Annie" is probably one of my favourite scenes in that movie), The Heat (Officer Mullins is competent at getting what she needs even if she's not by the book and generally abrasive, and it's not surprising why she's like that considering the shitheads that raised her. The only reason she's still a good person at heart is because her brother is gracious about her putting him in jail, he can be seen as her anchor to common decency, otherwise she may have sunk into the crab bucket with her other family members. She is not only climbing out of the bucket, she's pulling her brother out with her) and Spy are leaps and bounds ahead of her other starring roles in movies like Identity Thief and The Boss.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

food court bailiff posted:

I don't think I've ever been so pleasantly surprised by a movie as I was at Spy. The trailers made it seem like the whole movie was jokes about her weight but it's kind of the exact opposite.

I think generally Paul Feig is Good at Entertainment. He was pretty funny as Science Teacher Gene Pool on Sabrina The Teenage Witch (Although IMO standout performances in that show went to Late-Series Harvey who suddenly had really funny subplots when no longer relegated to boyfriend status, Willard Kraft who was a delightful rear end in a top hat, and Libby Chessler who had great reaction shots and generally sold that character) and now he's bringing out the best in Melissa McCarthy et al, so good on him for a strong career trajectory.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

Pilchenstein posted:

The trailers for all of Paul Feig's films make them look dire, whoever's putting them together clearly doesn't know what they're doing.

Either that or some marketing idiot thinks they know better than him because ~focus groups~.

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BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I've just ordered Reefer Madness: The Musical online as I liked what I've seen of the songs, but haven't ever seen the whole thing outside of Paw's review of it. I quite like how they take the old stereotypes of druggies/dealers (Jack The Pushy Dealer, his wife the Dependant, Sally the Whore, and the Tweaker) and then expand upon it in amusing ways, like during the reprise of "The Stuff" where Jack's wife finally has enough of him after the death of the other two and she murders him with a garden hoe. Also the fact that in the song "Murder", the propagandist politician has all the parents literally baying for blood, where earlier they are yelling at the screen trying to stop Jimmy smoking weed, all of a sudden when Jack's fighting the Tweaker they change their tunes and start rooting for Jack without realising it, calling for him to "Murder him, Murder him!" as part of the chorus. Between that and the initial song calling their children Hooligans and Whores, the propagandist has successfully made an entire generation of parents terrified of their own children. Looking forward to the DVD arriving so that I can see this imagery more in context and see how things turn out (besides badly for everyone :P)

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