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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Torquemada posted:

This is mostly true, but my unspoken corollary was that the times he does try to explain things, it sucks rear end.

It's a hard thing to actually do well, mostly because the explanations have to add something to the story. It's like comic book superpowers having ridiculous origins based on the poorly understood science and/or magic of the day, cept they frontload that- if it's something you reveal it has to be a satisfying one in some manner.

One of the fun things to do with it is have the characters theorise on what it might be, how it works, and never reveal if they're right- or have dangerously wrong assumptions and misunderstandings factor into the story. And even if you do reveal its nature, usually a good idea to leave some questions unanswered, especially if the characters have no reason to have the context or the opportunity to understand it.

Lovecraft could be pretty good at that sometimes, introducing weird poo poo and slowly revealing more about it, but throwing in some last minute twists, sometimes telegraphed, especially when just enough has been explained for the novelty to start to wear off.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Randalor posted:

The part that everyone always seems to get wrong with Pet Sematary was that the area that brought back the dead wasn't the cemetery, but deeper into the woods. The cemetery was just a morbidly cutesy way that kids dealt with the grief of their pets dying.

And I'll admit, considering how R&M treated the Needful Things parody back in season 1, I was expecting another "Rick is super smart and totally owns the devil!" and not... well, them just trying random poo poo to see what happens. Those were some decent ideas to try out.

Well he does, but that's not really the point, kinda lol the lesson is literally 'if you just use magical science to fix all the curses then it's a boring story', and Rick knows it, getting bored to tears immediately once the novelty wears off.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

rotinaj posted:

It would amuse the poo poo out of me to see a person coming out of the time travel bubble with their fingernails about halfway gone, the ends of their hair, and their most exterior layer of skin all burning off because it is all dead cells

At least the skin stuff sounds kinda invigorating.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Is funny how it's shown that despite it being 'obvious' from a reader perspective, Bruce Wayne's persona really works. It's like trying to claim Paris Hilton is actually on Seal Team 6. If anything it helps even more because despite what a lot of writers seem to think, there's no reason anyone has to assume that Batman is a publicly known figure working independently. Sometimes people guess this, like Two-Face in BTAS figuring there's a whole team of them working for the police, and if one gets killed in action there's another one to replace him. (Also I once read a Birds of Prey comic where Catwoman under a truth serum bluffed that. "The graveyards are filled with Batmen... and don't even get me started on the Robins...")

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Subtle cartoon moment that explains so much in retrospect; Jhonen Vasquez has said that Zim is canonically hard of hearing. On top of being a raging narcissist prone to self-delusion, of course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usMiT7RuVgA

Actually explains why he shouts so much (and why GIR shouts so much, so Zim can reliably hear them) and is probably caused by all the explosions Zim tends to be in close proximity to.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Random rear end note from Spider-Man: No Way Home, that the one supervillain MCU Peter is able to fix on his own without help from the other Spider-Men is Doc Ock. And it makes sense- MCU Peter has been basically Tony Stark's apprentice, and spent his appearances working with Stark's technology, even kinda jailbreaking his own suit, demonstrating the character's scientific prowess with this version specialising more in electronics and engineering. And that Doc Ock is basically a malfunctioning cyborg, with tech that while bleeding edge in his own time and universe, probably, is probably far less sophisticated than what Peter's been using (beside the dumpster diving he's been doing before). Of course Peter's able to stabilise him easily enough once he has the right tools, it's a problem that plays to his strengths.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

My favorite thing about NWH and the villains is everyone just accepts these guys exist. It's like "oh this guy somehow grafted hosed up ai tentacles to his spine" and it's no big deal. The lizard isn't even a blip on the radar when there's a guy who turns into a giant green rage monster if he stubs his toe bad. Goblin is basically what happens when a super soldier serum goes way wrong. Electric guy? gently caress, why not?

The only one that should rate a double take and a "the gently caress?" reaction is the guy who's made of sentient sand, and as completely weird and hosed up as that it, it's just like "Huh. That's neat."

They did make jokes about Electro's origin that I feel are more at the expense of the original film way overdoing it.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I wouldn't call Wonka a particularly subtle movie, and it's a bit uneven in general, but I gotta give it credit for actually having a fairly well put together story. Stealing and remixing all kinds of concepts and gags from various Dahl stories feels like a bit of a cheap way to stay on-theme, but it works.

What I found interesting is a lot of call-backs have the villains doing things that Wonka does in the original; a kinda clear throughline that Wonka knows a good trick when he sees it, and while he's learning things the hard way he also picks up on the techniques and methods. The whole ridiculous contract with the fine print is a pretty obvious callback to the Wilder movie, but also the laundry being a sealed-off workplace, where nothing comes in but materials and nothing goes out but the products, is something he clearly saw the advantages of after dealing with sabotage. Also kinda funny the contrast between the boarding house owner keeping him and the others in extortionate indentured servitude for an arbitrarily imposed debt, vs the Oompa-Loompa taking what he considers his people owed from Wonka, but in a far more reasonable and pragmatic way- only occasionally taking a jar of chocolates and never too much to put Wonka out of business, so he'll be able to make more chocolate tomorrow. Also not to mention with the laundry, Wonka figures out how to automate the tedious, backbreaking and mind-numbing work so the staff can use their actual skills... just realising that may be a reference to how Charlie Bucket's father loses his job, heh.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I mean, Super Mutants are also super tough and either don't age much or become stronger as they do, it's not hard to imagine a lot of them travelling across the wasteland especially after the army broke up like a hundred years ago.

Also the whole deal with the setting is that there's fuckloads of mad science all over the place from the insane monstrosity the US military-industrial complex had become. There's a probably deliberate irony that between all the tech from Vault-Tech, RobCo, Big MT and such, they could basically be a Jetsons post-scarcity setting, but the pre-war government was so hard locked into bloodthirsty imperialist capitalism they saw no other option than to keep escalating until the nukes started flying.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
There's no way the Gom Jabbar wasn't the best foreplay of Feyd's life.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

freeedr posted:

Every time you guys talk about this it seems more and more like a running joke that you’re making up as you go

That makes it all the more fun.

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