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Divide et Impera is a great mod overhaul for it too
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# ? May 17, 2024 14:47 |
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I hear people talking up Divide et Impera for rome 2 but I look at their mod page and like the first thing they say is "2000 new units" and I'm immediately suspicious
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# ? Mar 18, 2024 22:38 |
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They removed a lot of shared regional rosters and replaced them with unique ones.
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# ? Mar 18, 2024 22:47 |
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There are some shared units but many factions have their own version of things and there's also regional auxiliaries for each province based on the level of your main settlement building so if you go to Syria you can get excellent armoured archers and elephants and if you go to Rhodes you can get slingers or horse archers from scythia. Then on top of that Rome and carthage can recruit buffed versions of regional units either as romanised auxiliaries or special mercenaries. It's pretty cool and makes each army feel unique based on where they've been, you'll have the elite native units from your imperial core but also armies pulled from the areas you've conquered which in some cases might be even better. There's a population system that changes how each faction recruits based on the social class of their warriors mainly, and also means recruiting foreigners is practically free so strong native troops are very valuable. Also each faction has one or more reforms they can go through which change their roster Its very cool and the units are beautiful (shout outs to my favs pergamon and medewi) , the engine is showing its age though and turn times are rough but at least I usually find I'm having to spend some time between turns thinking about the campaign layer since it's a little more complex than warhams but not as crazy complex as some mods I still play it every few months since there are always updates
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 01:11 |
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Playing around with DEI again and I think the campaign set to "normal" is almost as hard, or harder, than some Legendary campaigns in Warhammer.
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# ? Mar 25, 2024 17:52 |
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Rome 2 is absolutely a great pickup. It's come a long way from the "the ships are tunnelling through the beaches" day's of the release.
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# ? Mar 25, 2024 18:17 |
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I love DeI but I also hate it because in every campaign I’ll eventually run into a reproducible crash during the AI turn and I have to end the campaign there.
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# ? Mar 25, 2024 18:30 |
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Played a campaign of Shogun 2 thanks to the tv show. The visuals, soundtrack and atmosphere are still great. Colourful armies look fantastic against green summer fields and it's neat to spot little battlefield dramas playing out. What bothers me most on the strategy layer is the tech tree, where everything just takes far too long. This playthrough I aimed for matchlock samurai from the beginning, but was still 5 turns short when I finished the long campaign. If I had skipped the few economy techs I took, I might have trained some just in time for my victory parade. At least in the later Three Kingdoms game it didn't seem too difficult to get to neat endgame units thanks to the retinue system.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 09:01 |
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Yeah I’ve been feeling that same urge to replay Shogun 2. The tech tree just takes a long time in the base game, so you have to prioritize what you want. Playing as a Christian diamyo can be a good idea if you want to tech quickly, since they get big research bonuses from their Missions. The Otomo also get early access to matchlock units, which means they can field them more consistently.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 12:49 |
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Kaal posted:Yeah I’ve been feeling that same urge to replay Shogun 2. The tech tree just takes a long time in the base game, so you have to prioritize what you want. Playing as a Christian diamyo can be a good idea if you want to tech quickly, since they get big research bonuses from their Missions. The Otomo also get early access to matchlock units, which means they can field them more consistently. Pro tip: Get the shotgun cavalry. You won't regret it.
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# ? Mar 30, 2024 10:50 |
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Yeah, the shogun 2 ai isn't good enough to justify the tech tree times. I found had to crank the difficulty up a bit to stop myself from rolling down the island with 3 armies (one on each side, one reinforcing whichever is weaker before splitting off to attack the middle of those 3 city sections)
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# ? Apr 9, 2024 10:44 |
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Nethalin posted:Rome 2 is great. It's probably their most polished and easy to grasp, straightforward historical title. The graphics on a modern PC look excellent. The game design doesn't feel like it's aged at all. I think it's their best game that doesn't have elves in it. Polished? Are you serious? It's still filled with serious bugs.
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# ? Apr 9, 2024 11:04 |
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i havent had issues with rome 2 in the past five years, but it sure as poo poo aint the best historical when three kingdoms exists
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# ? Apr 9, 2024 11:11 |
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To be fair he said most polished. Not that it was polished.
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# ? Apr 9, 2024 11:11 |
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PirateBob posted:Polished? Are you serious? It's still filled with serious bugs. Like what? I didn't run into anything i'd consider serious the last time I played. Did I just get lucky?
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# ? Apr 9, 2024 11:35 |
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dogstile posted:Like what? I didn't run into anything i'd consider serious the last time I played. Did I just get lucky? How about the one where the AI often can't disembark correctly during the many battles involving amphibious/marine units, leaving ships motionless where you can't even attack them? It locks the battle and the only way out is to admit defeat even though you'd easily win it under normal conditions. Or the one where AI units get stuck on gates.
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# ? Apr 9, 2024 11:40 |
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Guess I got lucky, I didn't get that I did get one unit stuck on a gate but that was remedied by me firing a catapult at it, which unstuck them.
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# ? Apr 9, 2024 14:54 |
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I mean if your only gonna call a game polished if it has no bugs than A TW is never gonna clear that bar
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# ? Apr 9, 2024 15:01 |
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Wrong, FOTS is the most polished game in the world. Nobody can convince me otherwise.
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# ? Apr 9, 2024 15:02 |
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Edit: like an idiot, i posted in the wrong thread
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I thought for sure it was just going to be abandoned, but they're doing one more content drop to turn Pharaoh into the Bronze Age game we were promised On a bit of a Bronze Age reading kick lately so gonna definitely be picking it up now
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# ? May 2, 2024 16:44 |
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Surprised the whole thing is free but I guess with such a low install base it's probably better than trying to market a game purchase + $20+ DLC
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# ? May 2, 2024 18:04 |
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Steam is having a Total War historical franchise sale. https://store.steampowered.com/sale/totalwarhistoricfranchisesale2024 I just reinstalled Medieval 2 maybe a week or two ago and have been playing that since it's my favorite. I don't like the city/province system they switched to after Shogun 2 (I think?).
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# ? May 3, 2024 04:09 |
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For Shotgun and FOTS, are its respective DLCs worth it, or are they just kinda like Napoleon's wherein they're nice to have? Also did something in particular happen with FOTS because it's kinda been savaged in reviews for being made a 'SAGA' title. Was there something more to that decision which has made people upset?
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# ? May 5, 2024 14:53 |
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Nope, that's it. Still a fantastic game. You can get by without the DLC. The sengoku jidai faction pack gives an interesting unique unit to each faction which can be nice to add a little variety, otherwise you don't need them.
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# ? May 5, 2024 15:09 |
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For Shogun 2 the DLCs that add new factions and new units (and are very cheap) are ok. There are plenty of fun factions and units without DLC, but since they are like 2 dollars each now its not a bad idea to buy them. The one that gives more unique units to each of the factions is the best single one to get (Sengoku Jidai DLC). Otherwise if you have never played Shogun 2 yet, then you probably don't need the Clan packs that add new factions because you still have a bunch of base campaign factions to play with that are new to you. The Rise of the Samurai DLC isn't great, skip that one. FOTS is very highly regarded, despite the reviews. The poo poo reviews are a hold over from how CA tried to rebrand stuff into the 'Saga' category. It was originally DLC for Shogun 2 and then they broke it out into its own game. Regardless, its a lot of fun. Unless you don't like the mixing of traditional Samurai vs Gunpowder units and that transitional period of history. The DLC for FOTS is all just new playable factions with slightly different faction traits and different start locations. Totally optional.
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# ? May 5, 2024 15:11 |
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SkySteak posted:For Shotgun and FOTS, are its respective DLCs worth it, or are they just kinda like Napoleon's wherein they're nice to have? One of the biggest flaws of vanilla Shogun 2 is the lack of unit variety between factions and the DLCs address it somewhat by giving every faction a bunch of unique units (or addding new factions that already have a bunch of unique units). It's somewhere between "worth it" and "nice to have" depending on how you feel about unit variety in vanilla Shogun. Never really noticed any FOTS DLCs, which I think speaks for itself.
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# ? May 5, 2024 15:14 |
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Rise of the Samurai has a lot of similarities to the base Shogun 2, but I’ve always found it to be one of the most tightly balanced and well-designed Total War games. Each unit and character has a purpose, they’re all useful and distinct, and there’s lots of different valid approaches to playing. While not as showy as the newer games that feature a bunch of visually different but fundamentally similar units, RotS focuses on mechanical diversity. Depending on the price it’s available for, I would certainly recommend checking it out.
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# ? May 5, 2024 15:50 |
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Happily i don't play anything after Med 2. Got Empire, Shogun 2 & Napoleon for cheap, but nowadays it's even cheaper if i don't buy it.
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# ? May 5, 2024 15:57 |
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Just Another Lurker posted:Happily i don't play anything after Med 2. ok
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# ? May 5, 2024 17:01 |
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Captain Beans posted:For Shogun 2 the DLCs that add new factions and new units (and are very cheap) are ok. There are plenty of fun factions and units without DLC, but since they are like 2 dollars each now its not a bad idea to buy them. The one that gives more unique units to each of the factions is the best single one to get (Sengoku Jidai DLC). Otherwise if you have never played Shogun 2 yet, then you probably don't need the Clan packs that add new factions because you still have a bunch of base campaign factions to play with that are new to you. The Rise of the Samurai DLC isn't great, skip that one. So since they split FOTS does launching Shogun 2 go back to the nice old title screen?
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# ? May 5, 2024 17:12 |
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Don't mind me, i'm just venting.
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# ? May 5, 2024 17:21 |
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FOTS has always been sold as both standalone and as Shogun 2 DLC, iirc.
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# ? May 5, 2024 17:21 |
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SkySteak posted:
fots has always been very well regarded as a mini standalone game released as dlc when CA started their "saga" brand of smaller TWs they retroactively made fots a saga title to give the brand some weight in a pretty cynical move. and to point at it as an example of the concept done right "hey you liked it when we added guns to shogun 2, you might like it when we remove magic and monsters from warhammer" then all the saga games were somewhat bad and seen as mostly a waste of time so they're roped into all the negative emotions surrounding CA
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# ? May 5, 2024 17:30 |
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I'll die on a hill at Hastings for Thrones
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# ? May 6, 2024 02:45 |
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i recently got 3 kingdoms and its great, im new to total war all together though and im wondering if theres a way to get my units to march together into a fight instead of my generals and horse units rushing ahead. they seem to go together some times but not others. they also always charged ahead of the siege equipment. do i just have to manually keep click them ahead as the ram/tower moves forward?
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# ? May 6, 2024 04:04 |
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Kly posted:i recently got 3 kingdoms and its great, im new to total war all together though and im wondering if theres a way to get my units to march together into a fight instead of my generals and horse units rushing ahead. they seem to go together some times but not others. they also always charged ahead of the siege equipment. do i just have to manually keep click them ahead as the ram/tower moves forward? Hold ctrl and alt while having the whole army selected and move them in formation.
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# ? May 6, 2024 04:29 |
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If you group your units they'll move at the same speed as the slowest unit. So an all cavalry group moves fast, mixed infantry and cavalry moves at the speed of the infantry, etc
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# ? May 6, 2024 12:26 |
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Specifically a locked group which will also maintain their formation exactly as it was when you locked it
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# ? May 6, 2024 12:27 |
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# ? May 17, 2024 14:47 |
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Communist Thoughts posted:fots has always been very well regarded as a mini standalone game released as dlc To be honest I am glad it's merely that and not some other horrible thing that's blighted the game. Appreciate the clarification posts on this and the DLC.
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