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WickedIcon posted:The people who do remember the Stallone movie mostly loving hate it. I like the Stallone movie over all it's a good 90s action movie, it's no Commando but then again few things are. Also I don't really know anything about Judge Dredd beyond he is a judge who is a hard rear end for the letter of the law and shoots people so I think it explained everything it needed to for people who aren't familiar. I did always think it was weird that for the first half of the movie everyone talks about how Dredd has no emotions and is a hardcore bad rear end who barely speaks but the second he stops being a judge he busts out one liners and stuff. I can see how it doesn't really fit the source material but at least it was an interesting movie to look at. This one just seems kind of boring.
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I really like Karl Urban, so I am probably going to see this in the theater. The trailer did not excite me though.
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I honestly cannot believe some people got genuine enjoyment from the Stallone Judge Dredd film. That poo poo was loving terrible.
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doctor 7 posted:I honestly cannot believe some people got genuine enjoyment from the Stallone Judge Dredd film. That poo poo was loving terrible. Yes, but it's terrible poo poo with very nice sets and costumes.
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You guys, slow-motion is a drug, and the future is a return to the Middle Ages. This is going to own!
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doctor 7 posted:I honestly cannot believe some people got genuine enjoyment from the Stallone Judge Dredd film. That poo poo was loving terrible. It's a guilty pleasure sort of film.
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etalian posted:It's a guilty pleasure sort of film. If we're talking guilty pleasure Stallone films, Demolition Man at least has something going for it. The Judge Dredd movie with him in it is a piece of poo poo.
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doctor 7 posted:I honestly cannot believe some people got genuine enjoyment from the Stallone Judge Dredd film. That poo poo was loving terrible. It did have some marvelous production design, it was made right at that mid-90s point where practical effects were at their apex before being replaced with CGI, there will likely never be anything that looks quite like it ever again.
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Vagabundo posted:If we're talking guilty pleasure Stallone films, Demolition Man at least has something going for it. The Judge Dredd movie with him in it is a piece of poo poo. And Judge Dredd doesn't have the mystery of the three seashells.
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Farbtoner posted:It did have some marvelous production design, it was made right at that mid-90s point where practical effects were at their apex before being replaced with CGI, there will likely never be anything that looks quite like it ever again.
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doctor 7 posted:I honestly cannot believe some people got genuine enjoyment from the Stallone Judge Dredd film. That poo poo was loving terrible. The most hilarious thing about it has to be the ending, where Dredd is given a hero's welcome back into the fold and offered the position of Chief Judge, despite having broken a shitload of laws, caused a shitload of damage, and killed a shitload of judges while trying to prove his innocence. All those judges doing the guns in the air salute thing while he rides off...awesome.
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Also the fact that instead of accepting this position, he decides he's better off riding around, shooting people on the street just as before.
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achillesforever6 posted:Plus didn't it have a great score? The effects were pretty great, too - the ABC Warbot was loving righteous, the make-up effects on the Angel Gang were nuts, and Mega City One looked like an even more dystopian, overcrowded, and hosed-up 'Blade Runner' and it looked great. The movie had lots and lots of problems, but the production values and visuals were not among them. Also when Stallone was in full costume and kept the helmet on, he absolutely nailed the look of Judge Dredd.
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I loved the 90's Judge Dredd because I saw it in the largest screen possible in the day. The movie just sounded amazing and the special effects were great. Storyline was pretty much poo poo but overall it was a fun movie that didnt leave me feeling like i didnt get my moneys worth. I was always dissapointed that they didnt make the 3 planned sequels but seeing how the movie didnt make that much I wasnt surprised. This movie however looks kinda ... bleh. Maybe if they would have made the city seem larger than what they have shown us I would be a little more excited for it. Also while I love Karl Urban as an actor he does seem too small for the role.
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etalian posted:Yeah but capturing the the acidic satirical natural of the series would be much more challenging than going the interesting setting for a action movie route. They could always pay lip-service to the comic's satire by having it revealed at the end that Slo-Mo is something banal like caffeine.
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Vagabundo posted:If we're talking guilty pleasure Stallone films, Demolition Man at least has something going for it. The Judge Dredd movie with him in it is a piece of poo poo. Iso-Cubes and all, the best thing about Demolition Man is that between the ham-fisted satire it felt more like a Judge Dredd movie than the actual Judge Dredd movie. I was going to mention it but someone already posted the fast food wars page. Remember the franchise wars Taco Bell won in Demolition Man? We get this fast food brand name warfare juxtaposed with the lower classes needing to riot and break and enter just to get food. The movie is less about the characters and more about the setting and how politicians try to find the exact right amount of compensation and comfort to keep people complacent and spending money. In the Dredd comics we have countries warring over territory via a lethal Olympic event for which you buy tickets to watch squadrons kill each other. What does this have to do with the movie? Not a whole lot, which is kind of a shame. I'm a fan of the RoboCop/Demolition Man-esque satirical Dredd stories, but I feel like they require completely ridiculous antagonists on some level. Otherwise you just have Sledge Hammer, which is awesome, but only gives us one side of the farce. Judge Dredd's ridiculous villains are kind of interesting in that Dredd often attacks the sympton rather than the cause (Why is McDonald's at a point where it needs to literally have open military warfare?). However, unlike something like popular reading of Batman where Batman himself gives rise to the villains and draws them to Gotham, most of the Dredd situations would have happened regardless of Dredd's existence. The best Dredd comics take the piss out of society at large and the corporations and politicians who run it into the ground at every chance for an extra buck instead of trying to psychoanalyze just the characters like most vigilante/renegade cop comics do. So while this upcoming Dredd film will hopefully be fun in a "The Raid: Cyberpunk Edition" way as someone posted earlier, it is a slight disappointment that neither this nor the earlier Stallone movie really went all out with making a mockery of our own condition, especially, and I never thought I'd ever write this, in a post Demolition Man world. Interestingly I read in one interview that First Blood and Judge Dredd were the two biggest surprises for Stallone. The latter because such a terrible movie resulted from so much work from so many talented people, that during production the individual pieces were incredible but the movie was so much less than the sum of its parts. The opposite happened with First Blood, which he almost tried to buy the rights to to keep it from being released because he felt it was coming along horribly. blackguy32 : That Dredd vs. Death game does follow the comics a bit more (it better, it was made by Rebellion, the owners of 2000 AD Comics!). I liked that again, unlike the movie it had mutants, zombies, incineration for minor crimes like "illegal possession of a goldfish," liberals, vampires, internal affairs judges that would completely destroy you if you messed around too much with the civilian populace, etc. You couldn't go around slaughtering them, but you COULD incapacitate and arrest just about anyone for the most minor thing. Also the immortal moment where I shot someone with an incendiary round and while they were flailing around on fire punched them which caused the upper half of their body to fly off their legs and splatter against a wall. Five seconds later the "Actually Dredd, that may have been a bit harsh." voice over from your boss plays. Also that game is notable for having Left 4 Dead in it as one of its mini-games. Zombie Holocaust coop owned. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Jun 25, 2012 |
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Sentinel Red posted:The most hilarious thing about it has to be the ending, where Dredd is given a hero's welcome back into the fold and offered the position of Chief Judge, despite having broken a shitload of laws, caused a shitload of damage, and killed a shitload of judges while trying to prove his innocence. All those judges doing the guns in the air salute thing while he rides off...awesome. That's actually something I really like about the movie - Judge Dredd doesn't learn a god damned thing after everything that happens to him. That, its brief runtime, and the fact that it also functions as a dark follow-up to the "hooray we're destroying a utopia where everyone is nice" ending of Demolition Man gives me a soft spot for this movie. The villain's whole caper never really works, but the world building is great and the movie has the good sense to be less than two hours long.
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TheScott2K posted:That's actually something I really like about the movie - Judge Dredd doesn't learn a god damned thing after everything that happens to him. It really is one of the jokes in the movie that's actually clever.
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It is the one bright spot of the movie, because Dredd is put into a position where he actually could have a major effect on Mega City One but chooses to just ride around shooting folks for jaywalking instead.HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It really is one of the jokes in the movie that's actually clever. I knew you'd say that!
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Neo Rasa posted:blackguy32 : That Dredd vs. Death game does follow the comics a bit more (it better, it was made by Rebellion, the owners of 2000 AD Comics!). I liked that again, unlike the movie it had mutants, zombies, incineration for minor crimes like "illegal possession of a goldfish," liberals, vampires, internal affairs judges that would completely destroy you if you messed around too much with the civilian populace, etc. You couldn't go around slaughtering them, but you COULD incapacitate and arrest just about anyone for the most minor thing. Also the immortal moment where I shot someone with an incendiary round and while they were flailing around on fire punched them which caused the upper half of their body to fly off their legs and splatter against a wall. Five seconds later the "Actually Dredd, that may have been a bit harsh." voice over from your boss plays. Also that game is notable for having Left 4 Dead in it as one of its mini-games. Zombie Holocaust coop owned.
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TheScott2K posted:That's actually something I really like about the movie - Judge Dredd doesn't learn a god damned thing after everything that happens to him. That, its brief runtime, and the fact that it also functions as a dark follow-up to the "hooray we're destroying a utopia where everyone is nice" ending of Demolition Man gives me a soft spot for this movie. The villain's whole caper never really works, but the world building is great and the movie has the good sense to be less than two hours long. I feel a bit sorry for Danny Cannon, though. He was a huge fan of the comic, so it was probably his dream job - then he's thrown in at the deep end on a set where he is very much not the one calling the shots. Some kid on only his second movie, versus one of the biggest stars in the world who's previously had directors fired for not doing things how he wanted? Cannon didn't stand a chance.
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doctor 7 posted:I honestly cannot believe some people got genuine enjoyment from the Stallone Judge Dredd film. That poo poo was loving terrible. Man, with a sense of disbelief like that, you must really struggle with day to day life.
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I can't believe there is so much hate for the Stallone Dredd movie. It was great! poo poo for a comic book movie made in the 90s? It was practically the Avengers of it's time. People should be glad it wasn't Tank Girl or the Dolph Lundgren Punisher movie.
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I was never bored during Judge Dredd and it was fairly entertaining despite being schlock. So I can't really call it a bad movie per se Like so many others, it was many years since I saw it so maybe I'd have a different opinion today though
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randombattle posted:I can't believe there is so much hate for the Stallone Dredd movie. It was great! I really really want to see Tank Girl.
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Welp, will be rewatching Stallone's Dredd tonight in defiance of these scathing attacks. The trailer for new Dredd isn't lighting my world on fire, but fully expect Karl Urban to own bones even if the film is terrible.
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I later regretted it, but I remember convincing a friend to go see the '95 Dredd purely based on some behind-the-scenes piece I saw that showed the creation of the ABC Warrior. I just thought it was so cool that they built a big "actual" robot and not a stop motion model. I would like to see that production footage but I can't seem to find it in a youtube search.
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randombattle posted:I can't believe there is so much hate for the Stallone Dredd movie. It was great! This is nuts to me, Tank Girl is more 90's than The Fifth Element and just as entertaining. And the Lundgren Punisher is like, the definition of a crazy 80's action movie. It's like Cobra starring Dolph Lundgren.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Tank Girl is more 90's than The Fifth Element Tank Girl is more 90s than Empire Records. Tank Girl is drinking Surge while watching the X-Games and playing Road Rash on your Sega CD. If you are at all interested in the predigested corporatized cultural detritus of the end of history, watch Tank Girl.
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I'll be honest, for the longest time until I watched them again for the second time since I saw them originally in theaters, I thought Stallone's Judge Dredd and Demolition Man were the same movie (the both have Stallone and Bullock in them, both are 90's "future" movies, etc.). If Rob Schneider shows up again in this one and Dredd just shoots him was soon as he opens his mouth and starts whining, I'm sold.
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Wade Wilson posted:I'll be honest, for the longest time until I watched them again for the second time since I saw them originally in theaters, I thought Stallone's Judge Dredd and Demolition Man were the same movie (the both have Stallone and Bullock in them, both are 90's "future" movies, etc.). Sandra Bullock is not in Judge Dredd. You're probably thinking of Diane Lane.
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Gooble Rampling posted:I later regretted it, but I remember convincing a friend to go see the '95 Dredd purely based on some behind-the-scenes piece I saw that showed the creation of the ABC Warrior. I just thought it was so cool that they built a big "actual" robot and not a stop motion model. I would like to see that production footage but I can't seem to find it in a youtube search. Yeah the sets and practical effects were really neat but it was a hilarious poo poo movie overall that missed the interesting parts of the source material.
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etalian posted:Yeah the sets and practical effects were really neat but it was a hilarious poo poo movie overall that missed the interesting parts of the source material. Like the first rule of Dredd. Do not show his face.
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Bugblatter posted:...I really need to find a copy of Tank Girl.
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bobkatt013 posted:Like the first rule of Dredd. Do not show his face. Karl Urban brought that up in a very early interview. I found it pretty funny considering he didn't want anything to do with helmets after filming Lord of the Rings (according to the Chronicles of Riddick commentary). Poor guy just can't escape them drat helmets!
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Wade Wilson posted:drat, how the hell did I confuse Diane Lane with Sandra Bullock?
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Wade Wilson posted:drat, how the hell did I confuse Diane Lane with Sandra Bullock? Good question. As an aside, I really wish Diane Lane had had a bigger career. She got stuck doing rom coms way too quickly, despite having some real acting chops and being gorgeous. What gives?
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