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VincentPrice posted:Most importantly: Judge Dredd is supposed to be the face of a ruthless, totalitarian regime. He's the bad guy because the comic is a satire. He's not the bad guy. He's not exactly the good guy either, although he has moments. It's 2000 AD, he's mostly just the guy. I mean he's currently fighting for mutant rights and poo poo, he's killed his bosses a few times, he's quit when he thinks he can't uphold the law anymore. He's not a totally brainwashed fascist monster....he's just nearly completely unemotional and lacking almost all empathy in the face of justice. He is the law as they say, and sometimes that's good and sometimes that's almost hilariously out of touch....and sometimes that's brutally cruel to innocent people.
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But he thanked him!
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I love how they always try to sell Dredd as a cliche action hero, when some of the bigger and more popular stories are more personal in scale, and the rest are generally way the gently caress more out there than most blockbusters. Like they'd never think to do a movie about "America" or "Necropolis", but they'll have him just kill some random criminals for an hour forty. A lot of the better Dredd stories actually have him introspective and critical of the law and it's place in Mega-City One. It's not all "Pull out the Lawgiver and lets fire off some explosive bullets!" and Dredd as an unthinking fascist monster with a boner for the law.
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massive spider posted:I actually prefer Dredd as an unthinking fascist to be honest, the whole "well shucks maybe I'm in the wrong after all" thing doesn't really work for me. The thing is, he's still a fascist. He's still fine with the draconian laws, the near total rule of the Judges, all of that. He's just not a total cliche. Why shouldn't mutants that can follow the law be allowed to suffer under it like everyone else? Why shouldn't we put the system to a vote if we have the support of the people? Dredd is a fascist that thinks their brand of fascism is the best thing people have going, he's not a fascist because WHOOO SHOOT PEOPLE IN THE FACE DIE CRIMINAL SCUM! He's not all that much of speciesist or classist or racist. Everyone is equal in the eyes of the law. That is to say, everyone is found wanting. One of the better things they've done is actually build a narrative and a history. Dredd has aged exactly as much as years that have passed since the first story. He's old as balls now, and he has a lot of story behind him. And that history is referenced, it has a real impact on the city and the stories. Dredd as an actual figure with growth and emotions is better than a joke Dredd. It gives weight to the brutality that does happen. An unthinking oppression machine gets boring. Dredd still tells interesting stories after all these years because they avoid that. Mulva fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jun 24, 2012 |
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Spalec posted:That bugged me too. Judge Dredd loves only one thing. That's not entirely true. He loved his brother, he has family, there are people and things he cares about....they just probably shouldn't expect any hugs or positive statements or him not to brutally murder them in the face of the law.
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Joseph. Because when you are designing the perfect judge to inspire fear and obedience, you call him "Dredd". But you also want him to be someone the common man would want to have a drink with, so you make him a "Joe". Good ol' Joe.
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Dude has robo-eyes, he gives no fucks.
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Handsome Dead posted:So, is he going to die? They've done every conceivable thing to ensure there will be a Dredd, be it him or a clone of him that they will tell people is Dredd. For good or for ill, he's become the personification of the idea of Law. It'd be devastating to social stability for there to be no Dredd. It's like they are self-aware enough to recognize that he is, in fact, the protagonist of their little storybook world. Their technology can ensure he goes on for a long time [Conceivably brain in a robot body Dredd could be lighting up the pages of British comics in a thousand years, still aging in real time], but the reality is he's lost a step. He's not quite as tough, not quite as quick on the draw. People are worried about Dredd getting older and what it means. They have a lot more continuity and 'realism' than most comics out there. Still comics, but they at least pretend it's a real world a bit harder than they might strictly have two. Of course they aren't too stuck up to keep from introducing undead psychic cops from an alternate dimension to get a bit of the old ultra-horror going.
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:Of course it isn't in the real world, but in Megacity One, everyone's told it is. You are. Very few crimes carry a mandatory sentence. Judge Dredd has even proscribed mental health care to people who were clearly insane when they killed others. People with future shock for instance aren't generally bad, they are sick. They get treatment. It's not so simple as "This is a satire in which the fascist law system of the Judges is always wrong". Well no, you don't get it that easy. Sometimes it isn't wrong. Sometimes it's fair, or compassionate. It's why people let all the terrible poo poo that goes on get a pass. Because of those moments where it is clearly in the right. It wouldn't be compelling satire that lasted decades if it was always so obvious. Dredd is both the most fascist of all Judges and the greatest force for social change in his setting. He is humanized, but only to the extent where we see how terribly broken a human being he is [He tries to have social interactions with people he cares about, but he just...is not in any sense equipped for them. He is the Law, and outside it is almost nothing.]. He is the hero and the cautionary tale all in one. That's why it's a compelling comic.
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bobkatt013 posted:His biggest nemesis is democracy. Which he kills with democracy.
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