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PrezCamachoo
Jan 21, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Voter turnout in Japan has avereged 66.5% over the last 25 years. I don't have any specifics by age or sex though.

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PrezCamachoo
Jan 21, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post
I don't know anything about geothermal but the Japanese are in serious negotiations with the Russians about building a direct LNG pipeline from Russia into Hokkaido. That would significantly reduce energy costs and go a long way towards making the nuclear free 2030 plan possible.

PrezCamachoo
Jan 21, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Also look into historical interest rate spreads. The yen was cheap for way too many years.

PrezCamachoo
Jan 21, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post
And people are finally figuring out that burning down a Japanese factory in China hurts the Chinese economy way more than the Japanese.

PrezCamachoo
Jan 21, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Protocol 5 posted:

It's worth noting that people have jumped in with both feet trying to build up the domestic IT and web services industries over the last decade that manufacturing has been in decline, I just feel sorry for all the kids who are going to industrial high schools for vocational programs preparing them for non-existent factory jobs.

By in decline do you mean just declining jobs or output? Because in both the US and Japan, even though jobs are leaving, output is going on strong.

PrezCamachoo
Jan 21, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post
More output with fewer inputs can only mean higher productivity. Isn't that a good thing?

PrezCamachoo
Jan 21, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post
So forcing companies to hold on to inefficient employees is better?

PrezCamachoo
Jan 21, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post
But isn't the "hollowing out" of manufacturing - fewer jobs - a necessary counterpart to the increase in personal services (healthcare) that are the largest component of consumption in the developed world?

PrezCamachoo
Jan 21, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Yes, people will get new jobs in new fields. Just as they've already been doing for decades.

Loss of manufacturing jobs is not new. In Japan, factory jobs fell by 26% from 1990 through 2008. During the same period, they fell 28% in Germany, 24% in France and 24% in the US. In the former West Germany, factory jobs peaked and started falling way back in 1970...

PrezCamachoo
Jan 21, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post

ErIog posted:



What needs to happen is either true redistribution where the government hands money to people or massive government jobs programs. There's zero political will to do the former and little political will to do the latter since the capitalists' half century propaganda effort to demonize government as an institution after they plowed socialism under.


Is this not EASP? (雇用調整助成金)

How did that work out for Japan?

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PrezCamachoo
Jan 21, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post

ErIog posted:

Employment declining in the graph you posted would point to the fact that things aren't actually that pat and dry. Those people don't all find jobs in new fields. The employment data you posted makes that clear. A certain percentage of them did, and the rest left the work force.

What do you propose be done about that?

It's an inherent problem of capitalism that if you force people to work in order to be able to eat that people have trouble eating when there's not enough work to go around. Japan has a social safety net so it's not about literal eating in this case, but as I said before: Is it not unfair to doom people to a lower quality of life simply because they lost a die roll on receiving one of the increasingly scarce jobs available in the economy?

The graph is manufacturing employment only.

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