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Yeah, I think people are overcompensating for Western media sensationalism about Japan coverage by going the other extreme. Anyone's who lived in Japan and dated Japanese women has probably seen how poorly Japanese youth handle relationships or sexual intimacy.
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Yeah a lot of it is media sensationalism but at the same time, you can't really minimize the fact that 40% of millennials in Japan are virgins.
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Aug 25, 2017 11:53
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I don't think anyone would be surprised if Japan is as bad as other Asian countries like SK or Singapore. Again, the question is whether is Western countries are in the same bucket.
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Aug 25, 2017 12:13
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Except Japan's xenophobia makes its TFR problem much more threatening than it does for Italy or Germany
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Aug 25, 2017 12:41
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13% of Germany's population are foreign residents. It's slightly above 1% for Japan. And LOL at the excuse that "Japan really wouldn't mind more foreign immigrants, it's just no one wants to go there".
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Aug 26, 2017 02:17
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Yah, no surprise that you as a presumably white, white-collar worker don't notice xenophobia. It'd be like a white American in France or Germany dismissing local attitudes towards 2nd generation blacks or turkish workers. The biggest potential source of immigration to Japan isn't the West but China and SE Asian countries like the Philippines so Westerner experiences aren't really relevant here. If the argument people are making is "Japan isn't uniquely bad, Europeans at their worst do the same poo poo (e.g., burakumin = gypsies)", fine but that strain of whataboutism doesn't make for discussion.
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icantfindaname posted:I think that's fair. The problem comes when you try to explain this as being a result of some intrinsic and essential Asian or Japanese pathology, instead of being the result of there just not being as many non-Japanese people in Japan as compared to non-Germans in Germany, and a normal part of the normal course of economic and social development. I think what a lot of people are taking issue with is exactly this. How exactly is Japan’s xenophobia a “normal part of the normal course of economic and social development’. Up-thread, you argue in passing that the Japanese are equally open to immigration as Americans by linking to a survey - that’s ludicrous to me. There’s an argument to be made that Japan isn’t “uniquely Japanese” in its social mores but I’m seeing people bend over backwards to excuse stuff because of a dislike for the other extreme which is orientalism. And excusing the Japanese for their racism because there aren’t as many non-Japanese in Japan as in other countries is hilarious. Anti-foreigner sentiment in Japan has increased dramatically over the past decade with the slight influx of Chinese migrant workers in the country if you look at any survey about Chinese.
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Aug 28, 2017 00:15
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It's quite common to see older Taiwanese speak fluent Japanese and speak fondly of the occupation. Thailand is another odd example where history has bled into the present, and the two countries have good relations at the institutional as well as individual level.
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Aug 28, 2017 04:14
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a good litmus test is asking them about the romani i've had well-educated European "liberals" that are nominally open to immigration and refugees, and tell me with a straight face that the romani are thievish etc. and not to be trusted
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Aug 30, 2017 01:45
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Stringent posted:Japan is easily the best candidate for a fascist takeover amongst developed countries, imo. lol what does that even mean and Israel takes the trophy anyway
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Sep 2, 2017 02:30
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Not really. There's a pretty good recent article in the Nikkei Journal which put forth the argument that Japan hasn't been hit by the wave of populism sweeping through the West because of its homogeneous population and a economic structure that's less (obviously) unequal. More structurally, the Japanese media establishment is quite left-leaning and you don't see a build-up of fake news media outlets warping local politics as you do in the West. People were worried about Abe presaging a new era of nationalism but that obviously hasn't panned out.
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Sep 2, 2017 03:30
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I guess I don't get where you're going with this. Why is Japan the most likely to be taken over fascists? How do they compare with Israel, an actual apartheid state that will likely go full-blown fascist to continue its occupation of Palestine. Who is the "Other" that fascists will target? Immigration is non-existent and there's no common sense on the ground of the native culture being taken over that drove the Trump phenomenon or Brexit. Why has Abe's manifesto, full of nationalist bait, failed so comprehensively?
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Sep 2, 2017 03:42
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Stringent posted:Japan is easily the best candidate for a fascist takeover amongst developed countries, imo. ?
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Sep 2, 2017 03:56
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"Japan is closer to Brave New World than nearly any other country on Earth" Where on earth are all these lovely takes coming from
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Sep 2, 2017 06:30
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I'm not particularly interested in the fact that you voted for Trump here. I'm wondering why you're making another dumb assertion about Japan being closer to BNW than any other country in the world. BNW's argument is that unlike direct oppression we see in 1984, the masses will be distracted by trivialities. I don't know why you'd think Japan is #1 on the list.
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Sep 2, 2017 06:50
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What's up with people making dumb assertions and then running away from them as "turns of phrase". Make an argument. You said Japan is closer to BNW than any other country in the world. How?
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Sep 2, 2017 06:55
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Yikes. Talk about projection
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Sep 2, 2017 06:57
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I'm curious what 2ch make of American alt-right online culture eg pepes. The comments section for this article are hilarious https://asahi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1494318321/l50 【アメリカ】「カエルのペペ」永眠...極右の象徴にされた漫画キャラ、作者が死なす quote:写真の男イケメンすぎるだろ quote:クマーがなぜか海外でペドベアーになったようなもんか shrike82 fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Sep 2, 2017 |
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Sep 2, 2017 07:09
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Dude, take a chill pill. I asked you why you think Japan is closer to BNW than any other country in the world. Why are you melting down about being a Trump voter? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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The first was commenting that the random white dude carrying a placard of Pepe (photo in the article) was too good-looking, and the second was musing about how an innocuous bear mascot (that originated from 2ch) became pedobear in the US. edit: and the article was about Matt Furie killing off Pepe shrike82 fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Sep 2, 2017 |
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Sep 2, 2017 08:46
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sounds like Koike wasn't interested anywayquote:小池氏、民進との組織的連携否定 候補ごとに検討の考え
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Sep 27, 2017 13:24
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quote:民進党の前原誠司代表は28日午前の党執行役員会で、衆院選に向け、小池百合子東京都知事が代表を務める新党「希望の党」に事実上合流する方針を示した。民進党候補の公認を希望に申請した上で、同党に判断を委ねる。午後の党両院議員総会で全議員に説明する。ただ、急な路線転換に党内は混乱しており、総会では反発も予想される。
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Sep 28, 2017 03:41
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lmao http://www.asahi.com/articles/ASK9X5CPYK9XUTFK019.html?iref=comtop_8_01 quote:進次郎氏「なんで万歳するんですか、合理的理由ない」
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skimming thru Japan Times and came across this column https://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2017/08/27/voices/love-japan-led-stop-dating-women/#.Wc78nGiCwuU quote:How a love of Japan led me to stop dating its women 
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Japan still a lovely place for womenquote:日本の男女格差１１４位に下落 「政治」１２３位に後退
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punk rebel ecks posted:So I just had an interview for a job that is a Japanese company. It's owned by Japan but the HQ is in America. 60% of the employees of the place are Japanese. lol
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Nov 11, 2017 01:55
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I remember doing a summer internship in Tokyo at the HQ of a Japanese multinational "maker" where I sat in on a vendor meeting with Gartner. Gartner was represented by a single non-Japanese speaking Asian-Chinese woman. The head of my group, a Japanese man in his 50s, kept on talking poo poo about her in Japanese throughout the entire meeting in front of her. This was like 2007
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Nov 11, 2017 06:59
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Well financial necessity is driving more women to work, or to stay at work even after they've found a partner
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Nov 11, 2017 07:23
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Expect the same thing to happen with China in 20-30 years.
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Mar 15, 2018 03:56
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And like American hippies, those student protestors went onto become salarymen
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Someone should do a galactic brain meme on the takes people have about Japan because there are definitely two tiers of "I'm a long time expat in Japan" brain going from "Japan is misunderstood by outsiders" to "Japan is misunderstood by outsiders and is actually worse than people think"
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