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Bohemian Nights posted:Cowards Where is your self-portrait? 
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syscall girl posted:I take it the point is that (now dead) black dudes with guns are cool with you? 
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Jun 14, 2015 21:24
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Armyman25 posted:Look at this pussy over here. 
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Jun 14, 2015 21:31
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Remember, don't photoshop it.  
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Jun 14, 2015 21:34
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Pussies probably shouldn't have guns, the triggers aren't designed for their small paws.
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Jollity Farm posted:Pussies probably shouldn't have guns, the triggers aren't designed for their small paws. Pussies are for guns.  
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Jun 14, 2015 22:32
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Pussies are guns.
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Jun 14, 2015 22:34
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They are actually accessories to guns
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Jun 14, 2015 22:36
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Volcott posted:Connecticut is a pretty terrible place to live as a gun owner. Connecticut has one of the lowest rates of gun homicide in the country and is one of the safest states to live in. Real sorry it took you an hour to acquire a dangerous weapon though man it sure is tough out there for gun loving Americans.  
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Jun 14, 2015 22:39
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what ever happened to that guy, anyway? oh... dear  Typical Pubbie posted:Connecticut has one of the lowest rates of gun homicide in the country and is one of the safest states to live in. Real sorry it took you an hour to acquire a dangerous weapon though man it sure is tough out there for gun loving Americans.  the inevitable legislative response
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Jun 14, 2015 23:04
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Typical Pubbie posted:Connecticut has one of the lowest rates of gun homicide in the country and is one of the safest states to live in. Real sorry it took you an hour to acquire a dangerous weapon though man it sure is tough out there for gun loving Americans. Again, I find it pretty disturbing that the only deaths you care about are those committed with guns. In other news, two charts that have absolutely zero connection whatsoever.  
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Jun 14, 2015 23:14
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why do insecure morons love guns so much anyway? why can't they find less destructive ways to whine about their issues re: masculinity. you hardly ever see car guys getting so butthurt like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orloQnzBRCw
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Jun 14, 2015 23:29
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LeJackal posted:Again, I find it pretty disturbing that the only deaths you care about are those committed with guns. It's almost as if guns are the easiest tool to use in a murder thanks to its range and point and click functionality. Whereas a knife requires you run the gently caress up and stab someone with it, a gun can be used from a distance, and depending on how many magazines they have, can shoot a multitude of people while standing in one defensible position instead of being pounced on as soon as they stab one person. Their ease of use also means that any idiot with a gun can kill a multitude of people, whereas if you want to be a skilled knife fighter you've got to practice. Also whereas an arsonist has to lug around the fuel for his fire and make himself more conspicuous, a pistol can be shoved into a pocket or in a jacket with hardly anyone being able to see it. Its almost like we're not saying that deaths caused by guns don't matter, but we're saying that the gun itself is pretty loving easy to utilize as an item of mass murder in a public setting when a 'lawful gun owner' decides that it's time to go on a killing spree and without access to this tool, such murders will be harder to accomplish and less likely to happen due to a heat of the moment fit of passion once again thanks to the 'point and click' functionality of it happening immediately. Makes you think. Bohemian Nights posted:They are actually accessories to guns No no he's doing it all wrong, this is how you do it.  if thats not political enough: 
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Jun 14, 2015 23:30
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I'm not entirely sure I can take any sociological or psychological statement at face value from someone who thinks that having a broomstick rammed up his rear end can make a man gay. 
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Jun 14, 2015 23:41
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WarpedNaba posted:I'm not entirely sure I can take any sociological or psychological statement at face value from someone who thinks that having a broomstick rammed up his rear end can make a man gay. Good, don't listen to Anne McCaffrey's opinions concerning tent pegs. Ursula Le Guin is probably ok though. Anyway, it's comforting to find such staunch supporters of anti-misogyny efforts among second amendment supporters 
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E-Tank posted:It's almost as if guns are the easiest tool to use in a murder thanks to its range and point and click functionality. You're actually looking for hands, here. Most people have a pair attached to them from birth on. E-Tank posted:Whereas a knife requires you run the gently caress up and stab someone with it, a gun can be used from a distance, and depending on how many magazines they have, can shoot a multitude of people while standing in one defensible position instead of being pounced on as soon as they stab one person. Their ease of use also means that any idiot with a gun can kill a multitude of people, whereas if you want to be a skilled knife fighter you've got to practice. I see that you're conflating things. Becoming a skilled knife fighter is hard, but committing a murder with a knife is easy. Knives are cheap (much cheaper than guns) easier to make, and easier to wield. (The thrust and stab motion is a lot more nature than 'load, cock, aim, and fire', but its okay if you're totally ignorant of how guns work) In fact, a knife can be superior as a murder weapon because it leaves behind no casings, is dead quiet, and completely disposable thanks to its cheapness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j55d8uqvKDQ E-Tank posted:Also whereas an arsonist has to lug around the fuel for his fire and make himself more conspicuous, a pistol can be shoved into a pocket or in a jacket with hardly anyone being able to see it. Its almost like we're not saying that deaths caused by guns don't matter, but we're saying that the gun itself is pretty loving easy to utilize as an item of mass murder in a public setting when a 'lawful gun owner' decides that it's time to go on a killing spree and without access to this tool, such murders will be harder to accomplish and less likely to happen due to a heat of the moment fit of passion once again thanks to the 'point and click' functionality of it happening immediately. Wait wait, are we talking about mass murder here, or single passionate murders or what? Lets start from the top. Spot the arsonist in this photo, please.  Which shopping bag has milk cartons full of gasoline? Which backpack is stuffed with explosives? Okay, new game, which one is the mass murderer?    If you said 'all of them', you would be correct! First up, Andreas Lubitz - he killed 150 people by crashing Germanwings Flight 9525. Second, Julio González, who killed 87 people by burning down the nightclub where his ex-girlfriend worked. Third, Li Xianliang, who got drunk, flew off the handle and killed 17 people with his tractor. Now, you can say that guns are 'the easiest way to commit mass murder!' all you want, but when you look into mass shootings and homicide, you see numbers like this:  With 300 million guns in this country, we average less than 150 deaths due to mass shootings/murder. That number is easily eclipsed by several single incidents that don't use firearms, and if you look incident by incident you'll often find that guns are no guarantee that mass casualties will arise. For example, lets take a look at 3 examples of what you describe as "easy to utilize as an item of mass murder in a public setting when a 'lawful gun owner' decides that it's time to go on a killing spree and without access to this tool, such murders will be harder to accomplish and less likely to happen due to a heat of the moment fit of passion". Aurora theater shooting - Holmes was actually drat crazy and didn't fly off the handle so much as you describe, but he killed 12 people. Attempted assassination of Sen. Giffords - Loughner was also pretty batshit, and with a pistol (and weird, unwieldy magazines) killed 6 people. Accent Signage Systems Workplace shooting - Andrew John Engeldinger is probably the closest thing to your description, when he found out he was getting fired he retrieved a pistol from his car and killed 7 people, including himself. At the same time, Li Xianling got mad at work and killed 17 people with his tractor. He killed more people in his fit of rage which was truly spontaneous, all without the benefit of a gun. I think you are full of misinformation and strange fantastical assumptions.
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Jun 15, 2015 00:33
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Which one of you fuckers summoned LeJackal back into this thread
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Jun 15, 2015 00:41
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Dr. Tough posted:Which one of you fuckers summoned LeJackal back into this thread Lets stop fighting each other and address the real enemy of the people. 
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Jun 15, 2015 00:47
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Xandu posted:I will be angry if someone tries to start an argument through pictures. Now stop gun chat losers and celebrate Flag Day 
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Jun 15, 2015 00:49
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LeJackal posted:Lets stop fighting each other and address the real enemy of the people. Content: Hedge Funds are going in big on Almonds, which can only improve California's water situation. 
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Jun 15, 2015 01:33
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LeJackal posted:Lets stop fighting each other and address the real enemy of the people. hmm interesting 
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LeJackal posted:Lets stop fighting each other and address the real enemy of the people. 
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Jun 15, 2015 01:42
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darthbob88 posted:But now you're back to the problem of whether to vote for welfare (and also gun control), or against gun control (and also welfare). You are correct. Gun control is welfare for the prison-industrial complex. Obviously the issues need to be separated, and gun control discarded.   
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LeJackal posted:Lets stop fighting each other and address the real enemy of the people. I still don't understand why you want to outlaw computers though. I mean, I understand the whole thing about automation and the reduction of unskilled labor, but outlawing computers entirely is going to absolutely cripple manufacturing and scientific capacity. I mean, hell, NASA and SpaceX won't be able to do poo poo without computers and isn't that what basically every nerd is going bonkers about these days? 
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Jun 15, 2015 03:25
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All embrace the Butlerian Jihad!
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Jun 15, 2015 03:27
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Kicking soccer balls to protest inadequate education reforms in Santiago, Chile before the Copa America.
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Jun 15, 2015 03:47
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Doing away with the draft is the most destructive thing that has ever happened to American foreign policy and military adventurism.  Back to our regularly scheduled cargo cult Leftists arguing for gun control.
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Wheeee posted:Doing away with the draft is the most destructive thing that has ever happened to American foreign policy and military adventurism. I'm not sure if you're aware, but the Vietnam War happened while we had the draft. 
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Jun 15, 2015 04:10
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Jun 15, 2015 04:11
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Wheeee posted:Back to our regularly scheduled cargo cult Leftists arguing for gun control. What is a cargo cult leftist...? 
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Jun 15, 2015 04:14
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Wheeee posted:Doing away with the draft is the most destructive thing that has ever happened to American foreign policy and military adventurism.  Pictured: Responsible foreign policy.
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Badger of Basra posted:I'm not sure if you're aware, but the Vietnam War happened while we had the draft. Sure did, and it was immensely unpopular with swathes of the population due in large part to the negative effects of the war touching upon almost everyone in the nation. It was a war that drove society-challenging arguments that reached beyond the purview of the conflict itself and into the realms of economic and social inequality, of the American political system, and which had a powerful enough effect upon the nation's psyche to overturn a centuries-old institution. Today, "volunteer" soldiers who signed up in a time of peace for a chance at an education they never otherwise could have attained are decried by mainstream media and establishment figures as cowardly, immoral leeches upon our proud society when they dare complain about being sent to die in an illegal, offensive war. Wars of conquest are easily sold to a populace who will feel no personal cost to themselves, and those fighting against them are demographically limited to the point that their voices are easily muted by the powers that be. Just as it's easier for people to support the outsourcing of productive labour when they don't know anyone personally who will be affected by it, it's a whole lot easier to support wars started on a flimsy pretext when your friends and family have no chance of being drafted into them.  People here seem to understand that being insulated by wealth from the stress and decision-making of poverty creates very real psychological changes in individuals, yet these same mechanisms apply to other causes and forms of mental insulation.
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Badger of Basra posted:I'm not sure if you're aware, but the Vietnam War happened while we had the draft. The Vietnam war happened more because the US got entangled in the legacy of Franco-British colonialism. It wasn't like we just decided overnight to go stop communism in Southeast Asia. But on the upside we're kinda-sorta allies now because gently caress China. 
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Wheeee posted:Sure did, and it was immensely unpopular with swathes of the population due in large part to the negative effects of the war touching upon almost everyone in the nation. It was a war that drove society-challenging arguments that reached beyond the purview of the conflict itself and into the realms of economic and social inequality, of the American political system, and which had a powerful enough effect upon the nation's psyche to overturn a centuries-old institution. Do you think that going into Vietnam was massively unpopular from the start, just because of the draft? 
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Badger of Basra posted:Do you think that going into Vietnam was massively unpopular from the start, just because of the draft? Of course not, it only started becoming unpopular as the realities of what it was doing to people were forced upon broad sections of the populace. Then, after the war ended, the draft was abolished and the next time America went to war anyone who complained was a pussy because soldiers signed up to fight for freedom, they're volunteers!  It's a whole lot easier to rally for war when it won't have any real effect on you, just as it's easy to support militarizing police in urban environments when it's never going to make a difference for you and your white family.
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