Wheeee posted:

Doing away with the draft is the most destructive thing that has ever happened to American foreign policy and military adventurism.



Back to our regularly scheduled cargo cult Leftists arguing for gun control.

Gus Hobbleton posted:

fermun posted:

In case anyone gets confused, this is a total nonsense graphic that doesn't even come a little bit close to representing what the solar system moving through space is like.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/03/04/vortex_motion_viral_video_showing_sun_s_motion_through_galaxy_is_wrong.html

Admiral Bosch posted:

What a pussy.

LeJackal posted:

You're actually looking for hands, here. Most people have a pair attached to them from birth on.


I see that you're conflating things. Becoming a skilled knife fighter is hard, but committing a murder with a knife is easy. Knives are cheap (much cheaper than guns) easier to make, and easier to wield. _{(The thrust and stab motion is a lot more nature than 'load, cock, aim, and fire', but its okay if you're totally ignorant of how guns work)} In fact, a knife can be superior as a murder weapon because it leaves behind no casings, is dead quiet, and completely disposable thanks to its cheapness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j55d8uqvKDQ


Wait wait, are we talking about mass murder here, or single passionate murders or what? Lets start from the top.
Spot the arsonist in this photo, please.

Which shopping bag has milk cartons full of gasoline? Which backpack is stuffed with explosives?

Okay, new game, which one is the mass murderer?




If you said 'all of them', you would be correct! First up, Andreas Lubitz - he killed 150 people by crashing Germanwings Flight 9525. Second, Julio González, who killed 87 people by burning down the nightclub where his ex-girlfriend worked. Third, Li Xianliang, who got drunk, flew off the handle and killed 17 people with his tractor.

Now, you can say that guns are 'the easiest way to commit mass murder!' all you want, but when you look into mass shootings and homicide, you see numbers like this:

With 300 million guns in this country, we average less than 150 deaths due to mass shootings/murder. That number is easily eclipsed by several single incidents that don't use firearms, and if you look incident by incident you'll often find that guns are no guarantee that mass casualties will arise.

For example, lets take a look at 3 examples of what you describe as "easy to utilize as an item of mass murder in a public setting when a 'lawful gun owner' decides that it's time to go on a killing spree and without access to this tool, such murders will be harder to accomplish and less likely to happen due to a heat of the moment fit of passion".
Aurora theater shooting - Holmes was actually drat crazy and didn't fly off the handle so much as you describe, but he killed 12 people.
Attempted assassination of Sen. Giffords - Loughner was also pretty batshit, and with a pistol (and weird, unwieldy magazines) killed 6 people.
Accent Signage Systems Workplace shooting - Andrew John Engeldinger is probably the closest thing to your description, when he found out he was getting fired he retrieved a pistol from his car and killed 7 people, including himself.

At the same time, Li Xianling got mad at work and killed 17 people with his tractor. He killed more people in his fit of rage which was truly spontaneous, all without the benefit of a gun.

I think you are full of misinformation and strange fantastical assumptions.

gradenko_2000 posted:

quote:

It said the idea was for MAD to find the sources of leaks about the G36 while at the same time spying on the journalists behind the critical reports. It described articles published not just by “Spiegel Online, but also by the “taz” newspaper and the weekly “Die Zeit,” beginning in 2012 as an “untrue media campaign.”

However, the MAD, which among other things is responsible for counterintelligence and detection of “anti-constitutional activities” within the Bundeswehr, turned down the Defense Ministry official’s request, dismissing it as “absurd.”

Wheeee posted:

Doing away with the draft is the most destructive thing that has ever happened to American foreign policy and military adventurism.

klen dool posted:

Can we please stop the gunchat? Especially you LeJackal. You are making me rethink my preconceived notions about gun safety, gun control, and laws with your data, and logic - and its taken both society and me years to develop them.

Jeb Bush posted:

My core beliefs start with the premise that the most vulnerable in our society should be in the front of the line and not the back...What we need is new leadership that takes conservative principles and applies them so that people can rise up

LeJackal posted:

Again, I find it pretty disturbing that the only deaths you care about are those committed with guns.

LeJackal posted:

darthbob88 posted:

But now you're back to the problem of whether to vote for welfare (and also gun control), or against gun control (and also welfare).

Content: Hedge Funds are going in big on Almonds, which can only improve California's water situation.

Frog Act posted:

I got high and ordered a dollar mousepad and it came today, I couldn't think of where to post a picture of it but here

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

Princess Charlotte aged 38:

Dr. Killjoy posted:

I too want to purchase an ironic anime communism mouse pad probably manufactured in a Chinese factory.

Wheeee posted:

I too enjoy receiving mystery presents that I ordered while inebriated, where did you get that one?

Frog Act posted:

some Hong Kong based design company called arts cow runs a special where you can get a custom mousepad printed and shipped for $1. just google "arts cow dollar mousepad" it's pretty rad and worked



"Europe'All our colors to the mast!' WW2 era Marshall Plan poster"

gradenko_2000 posted:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33137582

gradenko_2000 posted:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33137582

Guavanaut posted:

Slavvy posted:

What kind of hosed up ship has four mizzen sails?? loving Iceland ruining poo poo.

Albinator posted:

Pfft. Sail technology did not stop advancing in 1805.

LeJackal posted:

You're actually looking for hands, here. Most people have a pair attached to them from birth on.


I see that you're conflating things. Becoming a skilled knife fighter is hard, but committing a murder with a knife is easy. Knives are cheap (much cheaper than guns) easier to make, and easier to wield. _{(The thrust and stab motion is a lot more nature than 'load, cock, aim, and fire', but its okay if you're totally ignorant of how guns work)} In fact, a knife can be superior as a murder weapon because it leaves behind no casings, is dead quiet, and completely disposable thanks to its cheapness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j55d8uqvKDQ


Wait wait, are we talking about mass murder here, or single passionate murders or what? Lets start from the top.
Spot the arsonist in this photo, please.

Which shopping bag has milk cartons full of gasoline? Which backpack is stuffed with explosives?

Okay, new game, which one is the mass murderer?




If you said 'all of them', you would be correct! First up, Andreas Lubitz - he killed 150 people by crashing Germanwings Flight 9525. Second, Julio González, who killed 87 people by burning down the nightclub where his ex-girlfriend worked. Third, Li Xianliang, who got drunk, flew off the handle and killed 17 people with his tractor.

Now, you can say that guns are 'the easiest way to commit mass murder!' all you want, but when you look into mass shootings and homicide, you see numbers like this:

With 300 million guns in this country, we average less than 150 deaths due to mass shootings/murder. That number is easily eclipsed by several single incidents that don't use firearms, and if you look incident by incident you'll often find that guns are no guarantee that mass casualties will arise.

For example, lets take a look at 3 examples of what you describe as "easy to utilize as an item of mass murder in a public setting when a 'lawful gun owner' decides that it's time to go on a killing spree and without access to this tool, such murders will be harder to accomplish and less likely to happen due to a heat of the moment fit of passion".
Aurora theater shooting - Holmes was actually drat crazy and didn't fly off the handle so much as you describe, but he killed 12 people.
Attempted assassination of Sen. Giffords - Loughner was also pretty batshit, and with a pistol (and weird, unwieldy magazines) killed 6 people.
Accent Signage Systems Workplace shooting - Andrew John Engeldinger is probably the closest thing to your description, when he found out he was getting fired he retrieved a pistol from his car and killed 7 people, including himself.

At the same time, Li Xianling got mad at work and killed 17 people with his tractor. He killed more people in his fit of rage which was truly spontaneous, all without the benefit of a gun.

I think you are full of misinformation and strange fantastical assumptions.

khwarezm posted:

why is it that when these conversations happen we find out guns are special, freedoms are being restricted, the police state is coming etc?

khwarezm posted:

These posts are always hilarious since it works off the basis that if something that isnt a gun killed somebody then its all fine and dandy.