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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



I think the Ciaphas Cain stuff should be in the op too

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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



You see a helpless civilian. Do you.

Purge in the name of the god Emperor Turn to page 15
Blood for the Blood God Turn to page 8
Convince to do Cocaine! Turn to page 6
Cough on Turn to page 7
Enlist in some byzantine scheme with hinges on a butterfly flying slightly slower than normal three sectors off, while still have a plan in play for it flying slightly faster Turn to page 9

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Baron Bifford posted:

Yeah, I figured as much, but it seems strange because there really are no other benevolent gods for humanity to worship.

What about the Omnissiah

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Arbite posted:

Since the topic of radicals came up in this thread I'll ask it here as well: if radical inquisitors in Ordo Malleus use Daemonhosts, and radicals in Ordo Xenos use Jokaero and even Orks, what do the radicals of Ordo Hereticus use?

Wait, what?

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Trast posted:

It's like Abnett got told that trench warfare and demons weren't grim dark enough so he whipped up Cuu in his last draft to put the screws to the reader.

Actually I heard he lost a few pages and wrote him in as a placeholder

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



I dunno. What with Gaunt being Sharpe I thought Cuu made an excellent Hawkeswill.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Aggravated Leopard Growl?

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Ta krump a mockin'squig

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Therion posted:

I liked that Pariah was different, it has a nice unique style to it rather than "Eisenhorn, but with a female lead". However I think that Beta's stay in the school [mild spoilers] should have been much shorter. It's an engaging introduction to the setting, but a bit too much exposition.

Speaking of characters I didn't recognize till the ending, I was kind of surprised that the sister turned out to be Patience Kys. Maybe that's because Abnett managed to describe her without using the word "voluptuous".

Kara Swole was the one always described as voluptuous

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Um, isn't there only 2 books in the lost so far? Blood Pact and Salvation's reach? There has to be at least 1 more, if not 2 before the omnibus.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Trast posted:

I checked online and it's "The Lost (2009): Traitor General, His Last Command, The Armour of Contempt, and Only in Death." That leaves Iron Star, Blood Pact, Sabbat Worlds, and then Salvation as single novels. So I guess we'll see a new omnibus when Abnett finishes the new Heresy book that is coming before the new Gaunt and Pariah series book.

God damnit man write faster. :argh:

-edit- efb.

Iron Star is really a short story, and Sabbat worlds in a short story collection, and doesn't deal with the ghosts at al, so I would guess that neither would be in an omnibus for the Victory.

However, I was wrong on the lost name for it.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



So, Sandy Mitchell (he of the Ciaphas Cain stories) had a couple of books about an inquistorial warband, which ended on a cliffhanger. I expected the third book to come out, but it seems the previous two don't even exist on BL's site anymore. Anybody know what's going on?

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Can I get a link to said blog post?

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



They stole his booze?

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Jenkins vastly misunderstood what a corporate raider was. It took the janitorial staff 3 days to get the blood off the cubicle walls.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Jenkins gathered together a mighty horde of project teams and focus and led them into the lair of the dreaded accounting to ask about their 401ks

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



SquadronROE posted:

I can't find anything reliable... does it look like there's ever going to be another Gaunt's Ghosts book? They left the last with a lot of loose threads.

Are there characters people like who are still alive? Then yes.

(besides it brings in enough for black library to have a scrooge esqu.money bin.)

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Codex: Squats Demiurge.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



What if it's more than one primach. Roboute wakes up and Ultramar sucedes from the Imperium. Lion and Leman returns from the warp. Mutual distrust of each other causes them to declare war on each other. The Salamanders retrieve all the Artifacts. Corax returns having perfected the cloning poo poo but gone insane.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



ed balls balls man posted:

What? Every relic 40k game has had a horrible story.

I kinda like the story to Space Marine v:shobon:v

Does that make me a bad person?

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



I wonder if they could shove Roboute Guilliman in a dread shell? Come on, primach-dread to go with libarian dread!

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Lead Psychiatry posted:

Having just finished Execution Hour and Shadow Point I'll agree that they're good. But Shadow Point has a glaring flaw that works hard to completely ignore a staple of the Imperial Navy just to make the plot work. Once you realize it, it niggles at the back of your mind for the rest of the read.

Must have missed that. What is it?

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



euphronius posted:

He isn't a heretic in my book. Cherubael is much safer bound up than freed. Plus he doesnt even have the Malus Codicum anymore. That was loving with him more than anything.

Counter point. He's rolling with chaos marines

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



euphronius posted:

Not technically demons! Well. Most of them.

Still pretty heretical

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



I think I need to lay off the bolter porn for a long while. I'm in Vegas and I was using the column of light from Luxor to orient myself and kept calling it the astronomicon...

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Impaired Casing posted:

Speaking of, I was looking ahead in the Gaunt's Ghosts series, and see that "Blood Pact" and "Salvation's Reach" are two books in an arc all of their own called The Victory. Is it only those two books, or are there more waiting to be published? I'm on "Only In Death" right now, and can't decide if I want to read the next two, have it end on a cliff hanger, and wait it out, or just wait it out and not read them until the books are done. I only ask because looking at the publication dates, a couple years are between some of the releases, and that's a long time to wait.

It seems like there will be two more books in that series. However, those aren't the only books in the crusade really. There are a few spin offs. Like Titanicus, and Double Eagle, and the upcommign Interceptor City. Plus the Sabbat World Anthology.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Impaired Casing posted:

I actually finished rereading betrayer a few days ago. He does, indeed, eat the dead at the end in the last battle, and at the part quoted above me.

On a slightly WH40k related note, I started to read the Flashman Papers, since I love everything about Cain. I am surprised that Cain isn't more like Flashman, since Flashman is absolutely a terrible human being. In the grim darkness of the future, you think they would have the more dastardly one, not the British Empire circa 1840's.

Actually, from reading both, I can really say that the style of the Cain memoires, and the coward/hero dynamic is Flashman, but other than that, I real get a more Blackadder feel from him.

Also, stylistically it made sense. Whereas in the time, Victorian men were expected to be celibate, or at least faithful to their wives, heroic,religious or at least spiritual, honourable etc, you get Flashman who isn't. Meanwhile in the 40th millenia you're supposed to a horrible person, yet Cain is a decent one.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Lincoln`s Wax posted:

The mask dispenses Oil of Olay. From the neck down, he's a wrinkled, leathery mess.

Of course, this being grimdark, the oil of olay is made from baby fat. As in the fat from actual babies.

(Didn't I read that the juvenat drugs that give the Imperial rich and powerful long life are made from babies somewhere?)

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Demiurge4 posted:

There's plenty of love for the Salamanders, who are basically charcoal skinned dudes with red eyes.

I think it's more because the Salamanders are one of the least dickish armies.

Which gives them some character unlike the White Scars.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Stupid 40k literature making me want to dust my guard army.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Other than Gaunt's Ghosts, and Horus Heresy*, is Ciaphas Cain the BL's series with the most books? I mean, it is at 9 now, not counting short stories and the like.


*Since HH has many different plotlines/authors, I feel it would be unfair to list it in this.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Mechafunkzilla posted:

The Gotrek & Felix series has 13(!) full-length novels, plus a short story collection and an audiobook.

I stand corrected.

It's still the second longest 40k then, right?

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



You know, I've always heard never touch any C.S. Goto, but have never actually heard why, except for "Multilaser". Even then I don't know why Multilaser is bad, cause people say it likes it's an inside joke, and I guess I'm not on the inside.

Haven't read any of his stuff, but just curious about why it's poo poo.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



I run guard in chimeras. I know multilasers are real. It's just whenever I've asked in the past, all I've gotten is people saying "Multilaser" as if it's an injoke.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Ow. My brain.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



sunburnedcrow posted:

Well, gently caress! Things aren't going to end well for Eisenhorn isn't it? :ohdear:

It's 40k. When has it ever ended well for anyone?

(Except Ciaphas Cain)

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



AcidRonin posted:

They have started releasing the Audio drama's in book anthology form. Like a collection of short stories, they already did one collection.

Urg, the first of the Sigilite's. The Emperors autistic cousin

I wonder if they'll release Aporkalypse now Dead in the Water this way

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



UberJumper posted:

I finished Eisenhorn, and it was good but i didn't find it that amazing overall. My biggest problem was Abnett introducing way too many characters and under developing the vast majority of them or doing nothing with them. However Tobias Maxiwell was awesome and his death was :black101:

Going to start reading Ravenor.

Who?

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Lincoln`s Wax posted:

I can see some exec thumbing through the pages while saying "This okay, but where are the female marines? And it's all so... dour. We're thinking of making it so the army guys can just walk in and out of those dread things- audiences connect better with faces!"

Not that I wouldn't poo poo pants if they cast Depp as Cain or something.

The problem with that is he doesn't have the body type cain has been described as having.

He'd be Jurgen.

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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Pyrolocutus posted:

I think there's also fluff that the upper echelons of the Mechanicum is wise to how technology really is, as opposed to the religious mentality of the lower ranks. It's akin to the way that most Space Marines venerate the Emperor as a leader or progenitor rather than a god, in contrast to the Imperium at large. I wouldn't be surprised if the Necron/Eldar/Tau/whathaveyou technology vanishes into their laboratories on Mars, then a decade later a new and improved laser cannon born of human knowledge rolls out, praise the Omnissiah.
No no. They wait until something STC related is found, and spin it as they had discovered old tech.

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