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notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

What is the sequence for the updated fluff:

Dark Imperium
Watchers of the throne
Dante (is this the full title?)
Devastation of Baal

Is the stuff in the codecs available anywhere?

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notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Pendent posted:

Dante is set before the new stuff. Devastation of Baal and Watchers of the Throne are sort if simultaneous, sort of not due to warp fuckery. Dark Imperium is set between 20-100 years later, again due to warp fuckery.

Wicked, Ty

I thought that the fight on the moon had primaris marines? Was that all detailed in the leadup codecs?

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

I've only listened to the watchers of the throne audiobook. It felt like there were bits missing, like it was half of an asoiaf book.

The sisters of battle were awesome (or at least the protagonist was).

I'm wanting to get up to speed with the "new" setting

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Does the fluff still say that some worlds are uncorrupted paradises that have no idea there is a 10,000 year long war going on?

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

I have a question about chaos.

Is it limited to one galaxy? Or is our galaxy the eye terror - galaxy version?

Similarly, can the materium and immaterium ever fully merge?

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Ahh, ok. That makes sense.

I like the idea of different galaxies having different sets of chaos gods.

Maybe they can all have a fight one day.

But as someone mentioned the nids, don't they, and the necrons, present an existential threat?

I heard somewhere that we aren't the first galaxy to get nomed, so maybe we are the last galaxy with chaos gods?

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

I read somewhere that the primarks were meant to be mirrors if each other and that half were designed to fall so that The Emperor of Mankind had a reason to kill them all ala the thunder warriors.

So I've been trying to work out these mirrors and always got stuck on Rowboat.

Could it be that Angron is his mirror? I always thought Russ and Angron was the pair.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Dog_Meat posted:

Depends if you mean mirror as in "flipped version" or "evil version".

Like, Dorn is the good guy version of Perturabo as they're both siege warfare guys, but if you're talking reversed image then someone as ice calm as Dorn would be the opposite of Angron.

Flipped like dorn and perturabo.

Like khan and fulgim being all about being thr best swordsman

Or horus and Sanguinius (sp) being demi-emperors

Etc

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

susan posted:

Corax = Curz
Pertuabo = Dorne
Logar = Guilliman
Angron = Russ
Alpharius = Johnson
Magnus = Khan
Mortarion = Vulkan
Fulgrim = Manus
Horus = Sanguinius

Wicked, thanks for this.

Why Magnus/khan? Magus is a hard one as he is special within the group due his massive brain powers. Not disagreeing, just want to understand.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Khan is in the webway, right?

Maybe he found the black library and taught himself to be the greatest psychic of all time.

Then he uses the webway to get to goldern throne, kick big E of it and then sits down to take his place. Thia cause E-dog to reincarnate and the new, improved crusade is born.

Thank you for listening to my bullshit.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Finally getting round to reading Dark Imperium and I am digging the nugle demons.

Just a buncha hippies spreading some love.

Space Marines, on the other hand, are boring as gently caress. Might have to convert to chaos.

But the macro stuff with girlyman is cool.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

I am re-reading the first culture book as I only read the first quarter, and gently caress me I must have been half asleep when I first did.

Had no idea that the changer dude was human and part of a war. I thought he was some sort of pirate.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Biplane posted:

Ban this sick filth

Haha, I thought I had posted that elsewhere. Explains why I was getting no response.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

So far he seems a bit of a self righteous prick.

If he was in the imperium he would have been shot by now for xenoloving

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Did that synopsis of that Constantin Valdor book get posted?

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Taerkar posted:

Of the current humble bundle what's the recommended reading order to keep things as chronological as possible?

If you are talking modern ear I think it goes a little bit like this:

The Carrion Throne
Watchers of the Throne
Dark Imperium
Deviation of Baal

I am guessing Blackstone fortress will contemporaneous with them as well.

No idea about the others, sorry.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Owlkill posted:

Currently reading Carrion Throne and I'm really surprised at how good it is. I'd read a couple of Chris Wraight's Fantasy books but kind of bounced off them before, but this is really good. His descriptions of Terra are amazing, really evokes the scale of the crumbling grandeur alongside the filth and misery that regular folk live in.

Sorry bud, going to have to piss on your chips and say I disagree.

I've been finding the unrelenting descriptions of crapsack earth an real drag.

Getting better now that The Boys in Gold have turned up.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Bought Valdor less than 24 hrs ago and have already finished it.

That was a top, top book.

I'm not deep into the lore, nothing beyond reading wikis and poo poo but it was really cool seeing the world before the Imperium really got going.

Also made me feel really sorry for the custodies. The Emperor really needs to work on his soft skills and trust his direct reports.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

D-Pad posted:

You should definitely read the Watchers of the Throne series to get a great look at where the imperium and Custodes ended up 10k years later. Same author.

Read the poo poo outta those bad boys. I bloody love the boys in Gold and their warp loving besties.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

I have a question about the sequence of the creation of the Primarks and their legion geneseed.

As I understand it He buggered of Molock during the dark age of technology to steal the warp energy to make the primarks special.

However, the idea for the primark's doesn't arise until he sees the Thunder Warriors and Geno Five-Two Chiliad during the unification wars.

Is there an in universe explanation for this chicken and egg situation? Or is this a recon problem that has arisen from GW not thinking things would get this complicated?

To be transparent, I've read one or two of the later books but most of this information is from the 40k wiki so it might be the people there are poo poo at explaining things or I am poo poo at understanding them

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

MariusLecter posted:

I guess with all the swag he lifted off the Chaos Gods he wasn't sitting on Primarch Plans exactly just a lot of tools and knowhow that would also make the Primarch Project possible later. Along with whatever other hair brained scheme he thought would be amazing.

That's a pretty cool take, makes him a lot more human. He's got all this power but he doesn't actually know how to use it all properly. That's why it took him 38k years and he still hosed up. Omnipotent but not omniscient. Knowledge but no wisdom.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

What would the Emperor be the chaos go of?

Stagnation?

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Not sure if this has been posted yet but gw have realised all the fluff from the start of 8th

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/04/15/ready-for-a-history-lesson/

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

I'm Alpharius and so is my wife.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

what are the best books to get a Necron fix?

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Thank you for The Severed recommendation, it was a really fun read.

I would love it if all necrons where based on gammon that hasn't gotten over the fact that the empire is gone.

Would be really fitting for a British company.

Changing the subject completely:

who do we think S1 and S2 are from the start of the constaine book? I like the idea that S2 is The Emperor and S1 is malcador

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

I feel a oval office now

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Any idea why I can't get plague wars in ebook form? Not even from GW!

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Does anyone know if Thousand Sons are in both parts of War Zone Fenris or just the second?

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Black Library have all the books back on sale. I got myself Plague Wars because I am a sucker for the new lore warhammer

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

I hope The Silent Kings does something for those two

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

I'm a little confused about the opening of the great rift.

I've just finished reading gathering storm and the boss fight with Magnus happens in watchers of the throne but after the opening of the great rift. Yet by the end of the gathering storm there is no rift.

Or am I misremembering?

Edit: oh, and how and when did they get the ships back from the red corsairs?

notaspy fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Jul 8, 2020

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Guyver posted:

I just read Gathering Storm too.

The rift was there. It's one of the reasons why the Terran Crusade took so long. That and the red nerd being a dick.

The next series of books they're doing is the Indomitus Crusade so recapturing Macragge's Honor that will probably be in there.

Ahhh, that bit about the storm being so bad they couldn't see the astronomican.

I have a softspot for The Thousand Sons but Magnus is really poo poo. He got hosed on fenris by a funny axe, then get chumped on Luna. I've not read the phyicic awaking yet but I am guessing he will gently caress up again.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

D-Pad posted:

You should read Avenging Son next. Both Guy Haley. Cawl is in Avenging Son, not a major character though. As to your questions:

I think emps is referring to unknown future events. Cawl Inferior is an actual AI, or at least a sentient copy of Cawl. I think it wants itself to be fabricator general. Cawl specifically says he sent the C'Tan on a one way trip. It won't be coming back to the Imperium.

I took it as Crawl inferior is a copy of one personality, or a sub-section of the Crawl gasalt, instead of his entire mind. Crawl suddenly realised this and was "ok poo poo, i hosed up, this could go badly wrong"

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

right then fellow nerds, what sound I read next? Master of Mankind or Plague War?

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

I am enjoying reading The Infinite and The Divine. About a quarter of the way through but it's a fun romo so far.

It reminds me of the old title of the Japanese Politics Thread - Old men loving each other over.

One thing I would say is the writer isn't very good at bolter, sorry, Gauss porn. It's pretty perfunctory, but I can dig that as I just want to read about old nerds being dicks.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

All the battles were a bit poo poo.

The end was loving amazing, with the way it handled time and how things evolve in that time.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

I wonder if they will update my gurlyman ebooks for free or if I will need to buy them again... Lol, this is gw I think I know the answer.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Miguel Prado posted:

The Infinite and the Divine is great! I am about 20% through but it’s a really fun read. Especially coming off Manflayer

The fight scene between the two of them at the start is epic.

It shows just how impressively, unimaginably powerful the necron truly are.

Countless civilisations crushed under them like it was nothing.

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notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

I am reading Avenging Son and have just gotten to the bit where they go to mars to meet Cawl.

is alpha primis an attempt to recreate thr primarchs? I've read The Great Work and got a completely different vibe, by that was pre the retcon

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