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hopterque posted:Yeah Mark of Calth was pretty Solid, the Athame story was really loving cool. I haven't finished all of it, but I agree that Athame and Unmarked were very good. The twist in Underworld War was well-executed and the conditional foreshadowing was clever, but it threw me for a big loop. This Marine is supposedly too weak to serve as a daemonhost, yet he's walking the surface of a severely irradiated world in preparation for telling his primarch to go gently caress himself. To his face. I get that daemons aren't generally (ever) impressed by sentimental behavior, but Argel Tal seemed to do just fine despite having plenty of that himself. On another note, I haven't seen this mentioned so far in the thread - I'm pretty sure this is mentioned in Horus' dream-tour of the Emperor's lab, though it might be the Word Bearers' (Thousand Sons? I can't loving remember). Anyway, there's an alternate story offered behind the creation of the Primarchs. Keeping the credibility of the in-universe source in mind, it's still an interesting bit of fluff and I'm curious as to whether it's expanded on anywhere else.
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VanSandman posted:Or did they? Quite likely. In one of the books one of the Alpha operatives pretty much gives himself away to another, but it's not until the call for action that most of them are all "Oh hey, I thought this was MY gig." Regarding Legion, I never thought much of the Acuity killing the psyker. Rereading that part, it is pretty sketchy, especially given that Grammaticus is also a psyker and can look into the Acuity without dying. One theory I've heard, and I have no idea how prevalent it is, is that BL is setting up for a return of the Emperor and remaining living primarchs for a renewed war/one last battle. Alpha/Omegon being truly loyal would possibly fit into this, depending on which primarchs are really alive/dead and just how much you trust the continuity of 40k. I suppose I'd just be happy for a single Heresy book that answers more questions than it raises.
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Fried Chicken posted:Novella, but yeah. Looks like I'm gonna be the rear end in a top hat who goes to Barnes & Noble, reads something in the coffee bar, and leaves without buying! I hate you for posting that, because now I'm trying to grasp just how awesome the HH series could have been in that scenario. Hell, let's make it even more painful and consider a C&C-style event where ADB goes back in time and shakes the hands of Graham McNeill and Nick Kyme, creating a new universe where sadomasochistic primarch anal fruit torture is replaced by, well, that thing that ADB does that gives me reading orgasms. I'm pretty far into the Ghosts series now, one of the books is actually what first sparked my interest in 40k some twelve years ago and it's a lot better reading them in order. I feel kind of confused being just a ways in to Last Command, because while I like Dan Abnett it feels really, really weird when he starts doing something more than lasgun/anti-authority porn in a Ghost book.
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I just finished Blood Pact a week ago. I know I'm missing one or two Ghosts novels after it, but overall what I've read has been great. I went from "Ok, why is he suddenly adding things beyond lasporn?" to "Oh poo poo this is amazing.". Only In Death intrigued me with the supernatural thing and the first time I found myself thinking they might actually all die. Blood Pact's use of (wait for it) Blood Pact POV was awesome, very cool to get inside the head of a relatively sane group of 40k Chaos soldiers. I do find it odd that Zweil went from being a stubborn and mildly eccentric priest in one book to being a slightly nicer version of Hank Hill Sr. Also Crobec and now Dorden, gently caress you very much Dan Abnett
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VanSandman posted:Yeah, the Emperor we see from the point of view of the primarchs and space marines seems to be a very different impression than the one Oll Persson has of him. In Know No Fear, he recalls saying to the Emperor a very long time ago that all he wants is a normal life, and the Emperor just laughs and assures him that he will have as many of those as he wants. That seems to be a very different person than the fellow who led a great conquering crusade where the ultimate goal was to unite humanity under his will. Hell, if the Cabal has pissed him off so badly, maybe the Golden Throne project was a way to say 'gently caress you assholes' by breaking into their warpless special hyperspace zone of the Webway. IIRC in the Mark of Calth short Oll also recalls seeing something hidden in his face, something along the lines of his mask slipping for a fraction of a second and underneath was something dark enough to unnerve a Perpetual. So even way back, he wasn't completely (at all) benevolent. I recently finished ADB's Grey Knights book which does a wonderful job of putting the universe in perspective as far as how much it sucks to be human. See an Astartes in unmarked grey armor? Death sentence. Witness forces of the Ruinous Powers? Death sentence. It really drives home the point that the Imperium is just as twisted and evil as Tyranids and Chaos, respectively, it just exhibits those traits in a different way. Also Hyperion comes across as a complete pussy, though I'm assuming that's intentional.
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EyeRChris posted:Out of the Chaos Legions...of the founding chapters which are the closest to collapse? IIRC Ahriman and most of the intact Sons are running about the galaxy, trying to get into the Eldar Webway so they can find a way to undo the zombification he unleashed on all the non-psyker Sons. The Night Lords are trying to rally for the annihilation of Craftworld Ulthwe. Everyone else is pretty much squabbling/pirating/beating it off in some corner of the Eye. At this point I just want a big reveal book that spends one chapter revealing that the Emperor is the fifth Chaos god, followed by a few hundred pages of trying to make decent sense of this. This would be a good project for Graham McNeill because despite a few half-arsed arguments that could be made for it, there would also need to be a lot of gimmicky bullshit added and no one is better qualified in that department than the 40k Asstickler. I'd also like to make another mention of Betrayer - I'm sure most in this thread have already read it, but the audiobook version is surprisingly good. I've never been big on audiobooks myself, but they do wonders for helping me fall asleep when my brain is otherwise jittering like a crackhead. Anyway: The narrator really gets into his work, too into it perhaps, but you cannot fault a man whose impression of Magnus is a nasal tone filled with hubris; his Lorgar is portrayed with a soft, nearly effeminate voice touched with just the right amount of  . Character voice aside, he also knows where to put emphasis and basically be a Good Audiobook Guy. tl;dr Betrayer audiobook is voiced by the ADB of audiobook guys. Worth a listen.
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Cream_Filling posted:Nah, the Titan legions are all independent bodies with their own names and traditions. I could swear there are references to Titans or rather Ordaxes pretty much permanently attached to a certain Legion and thus accepting that Legion's colors. In any case the one on the left most closely represents World Eater colors.
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Oct 17, 2013 06:01
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VanSandman posted:Funnily enough ADB wrote the opposite in The Emperor's Gift. Hyperion objects to wearing Terminator armor for the fight on Armageddon, because his standard armor offers better mobility. I like to take the bolded part as yet more evidence of Hyperion being a loving idiot. A bit late but thanks to shadowhand for the image artwork, those are pretty damned cool.
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Oct 18, 2013 06:14
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Big Willy Style posted:See Logan grimnar in emperors gift moving like lightning and putting his axe through the head of agrey knight master. I probably posted this in here before, but Bjorn's response to the usage of "God-Emperor" is equally awesome. That and his whole "Why the gently caress are you bowing?" thing. For pure satisfaction, nothing beats Horus's "Show me your real face" incident, especially after reading Betrayer.
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Oct 18, 2013 08:08
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VanSandman posted:Which book is this bit in? Khizan posted:Hyperion's justicar/squad leader is actually the one to ask about this. I don't think it's ever stated, but I got the feeling that they generally assumed that since there's no armor in the entire loving galaxy that will stand up to a single hit from Angron they might as well be comfortable when they die. I was more referring to him being an intensely irritating character.
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Fried Chicken posted:
I would love to see the rest, but what you've already posted is some really good stuff. At first I was seeing the edges of Lorgar's irises as his pupils which made him look very fanatical, but once I read your commentary I went back and saw it correctly. Those are very well-done pieces, my thanks for that effort in posting them.
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I came in here to confess to something. I randomly realized during work that the daemon Prophaniti's name is pronounced the same as profanity. I felt justly foolish but Baron's post put things in perspective and reminded me that while my brain sometimes overlooks obvious things, at least I'm not completely loving retarded. On another Eisenhorn note, I was really hoping that the last book would reveal Pontius' endgame as nothing more than forcing Eisenhorn into pretty much being a heretic. Y'know, like he promised to do in the preceding book.
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hopterque posted:You know the Chaos Gods were lying to Horus and crew, right? Like none of that was actually true, they just wanted Horus and his brothers to think they were betrayed. I actually think it would be kind of cool if the Emperor was some sort of disowned Chaos God and some of what they told Horus was true. As far as Bjorn, the Inquisitor says something about God-Emperor this or that. Bjorn then says "God-Emperor? Calling him a god is what started this mess in the first place.", setting the tone for the rest of his comments and leaving the Inquisitor thoroughly baffled. While it's a great passage, none of his comments surpass the one above.
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Waroduce posted:I have a four hour drive on fri and another 4 on sunday, and id like to try an audiobook since ive never listened to a 40k one. Can anyone recommend some good (or at least bearable/not trash) ones? I generally dislike audiobooks, but the guy who does the reading for Betrayer does an awesome job.
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4/5 of the way through Angel Exterminatus and while there have been some decent parts I have yet to read anything that actually redeems the literary VX-poison-gas-of-diarrhea that is Graham McNeill's writing. It's not just bad by standards of what works with 40k, it's simply bad by the standards of writing anything. I'm going to go re-read the Gaunt novel where they're on Gereon and pine for another Abnett/Bowden book to come out.
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Firstborn posted:If Miles Cameron hasn't written for Warhammer Fantasy yet, he should. Try his book The Red Knight. It's like Warhammer with the numbers filed off. Amazing gore-soaked fights with super detailed arms, armor, and tactics. A complex magic system based on a more metal version of catholic holy man stuff where Jesus uppercuts evil, and a refreshingly interesting look at how to be an rear end in a top hat on the sly with chivalry and get in barbs on your frenemies while bowing in their face and smirking underneath your helmet. It owns. Just popping in here to say thanks, Red Knight is incredibly engrossing and well-written.
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